The USSR won WWII

Uh sweaty, the ussr came out of ww2 stronger than tsarist russia ever could have dreamed of.
Hell by the end of the war you had old romanov ministers in exile in paris praising Stalin for raising russia from a second grade power to än undisputed super power.
Not to mention that the ussr was at constant risk of being faced by a western coallition before it gained widespread diplomatic legitimacy during the war.

We lost Vietnam hard and most Americans accept that.

>>the USSR won WWII
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>oh ho ho... AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
The USA won the vietnam war
HAHAHAHHAHAHA

No, but because ~90% of the German casualties were on the eastern front.

Have Yanks ever fought in a real war, really?
Did fuck all in WWI and played healslut in WWII

They gave the Soviets 7% of their equipment with the lend-lease that means America deserves 100% of the credit for winning WWII

>b-but WE NUKED JAPS!!1

LOOK AT THIS DUDE

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A joke almost as tired as the Vietnam ones

Hi Ivan

We fought Spain by our selves and Mexico.
In fact we beat mexico so bad it became irrelevant.

What an intelligent and though-out argument. I think you really destroyed me with this one.

So America won Vietnam?

The US-Russian Lend Lease seems quite a bit more clear cut. To start with, Stalin remarked in 1943 that "Without American production the United Nations could never have won the war." A truly depicting quote, about Lend Lease's role. Once the numbers are looked at, we can see why. Of the $50.1 billion, Russia received 11.3 billion putting Russia in the second largest recipient behind Britain. In The Development of the Russian Iron and Steel Industry we see that Russian steel output started at 18,317,000 tons of steel per year in 1940 and declined to 12,252,000 tons per year in 1945 due to the war. On the other hand, in Major Jordan's Diaries we see that over 1 billion tons of various kinds of steel were given to Russia throughout Lend Lease. Meaning Russia received over 90% of it's steel from the US. This story is similar for most of Russia's resources, and can be equated to food sent to other allies.

They did clean up the Pacific Theatre after we fucked it up tbf.

Vietnam has nothing to do with WW2.

>They gave the Soviets 7% of their equipment with the lend-lease that means America deserves 100% of the credit for winning WWII

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Another great argument. Damn you're good

>everybody conviently forgets that Patton raped Italy and McArthur raped Japan and as soon as entered the war Germany started losing

haha but America did it easily so it doesn't count haha

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>Another great argument. Damn you're good

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The American Civil War.

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crazy how the pacific campaign was like a bunch of mini D-days where you had to fight soldiers more fanatical than the SS-Adolf Hitler division willing to charge out of their foxholes with primed grenades and swords rather than surrender
respect to the yanks for slapping the japs desu
was speaking the other week to a canadian vet that flew PBY's hunting jap subs during the war. based old man, protected the american, canadian, aussie and brit sailors out there

Everybody forgets how insane the Japanese were then. People seem to try so hard to downplay America but goddamn Japanese civilians were ordered to throw their babies off cliffs and cut their own throats if their villages were captured and they would actually do it the bastards

#fortheemperor

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We won both world wars so I'd say yes. If America stayed out of the war entirely (no lend-lease) the Axis would have won.

Americans have been pushed to the absolute brink of hellish modern war once, and it was the Civil War (Which Yuros consider irrelevant). It’s not our fault the rest of the world is a bunch of scrubs who cann’t ever challenge us more than we challenged ourselves.

>would
nope
and america would have sold weapons to the allies in every single universe it exists inside as a liberal democracy

Russians usually like to push memes about how they won ww2 by themselves. The reality is if America sat out Russia would had got stomped.
Not to mention Great Britain's help. (Imagine all the resources of north africa for axis
No fighter or bomber losses over GB
No need for subs in the Atlantic)

The full might of the Nazi war machine would had ass raped USSR.