Do any French know the average IQ of 2nd generation Arab immigrants?

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"Multi-ethnic" doesn't mean that the people weren't closely related, however. It is true that the people of France identified with their province first and foremost, and that the very idea of identifying as French was laughable at best. That's why they were called "subjects of the French crown" rather than simply "French".
But these people still spoke related languages, generally had common ancestors, a common history and similar customs and culture. That's why it was so easy to unify the country under a singular French identity. And that's also why I'll never accept outsiders like you as French.

>no matter how hard they try
but they don't try at all, they openly shit on this coutry

>nationality
>ethnicity

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Such statistics don't exist because ethnic statistics are illegal in France. (I wonder why...)

Based on the way they act however, I would say firmly in the double digits, probably around 85.

actually based and redpilled, my property

with the flynn effect, it's probably something between 95 et 105

>IQ is scientific

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based and redpilled immigrants

Racial statistics are verboten because muh holocaust

This. This is why they should all move to NZ instead

wait i thought you guys had forbidden collecting racial statistics before the holocaust which is why a proportionally high percentage of french jews were able to survive it

That's why they're French of Arab descent and not French-French.

I don't know why France didn't make a new term differentiating ethnic French and nationalized French like Russia did.

>But these people still spoke related languages, generally had common ancestors, a common history and similar customs and culture.
kek
>That's why it was so easy to unify the country under a singular French identity.
It was easy because of the super-strong government, absolutism then jacobinism unified the Frenchs, not your Conversano-tier bullshits
>hurr durr you dont agree with me therefore
you just showed how dumb you are

France is like Russia not Germany, it's a big gang formed with various people of diverse origins, you are not part of the gang because your father was already a member but because you showed loyalty to the gang. I'm from the riviera and here we've seen millions of immigrants coming here, Italians, White Russians, black feets, harkis etc, all of them are fully integrated and assimilated because they were loyal to the French gang
But the maghrebis who come here in the 90's will never be French because they never showed any loyalty nor respect to our gang

It's not the opinion of a bunch of racist nerds who will change that, at the same time the leftards who are in power today and try to say us that these maghrebis scum are pure Frenchs aren't going to change the true nature of our gang

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It's better to make them french than to have constant terrorist attacks, you retard. And the final solution or "kicking them out" is never gonna be, deal with it, at least in france

Does anyone have a good Arab first world IQ though?

I know the true sub-Saharan IQ is 81 because of African Americans.

I don't think 100 IQ Whites jumped from 86 IQ Arabs (5 points above primitive IQ) to 100 IQ. It makes no sense.

Giving them the nationality doesn't stop them from killing people. The vast majority of muslim terrorists in the past few years had the French nationality

IQ is not an absolute measure of intelligence and early education greatly helps your scores.

It's not absolute, but it's close.

The "early education" bit is why I want to see what educated 2nd generation Arabs score on IQ tests.

There's too much culture shock to go into Egypt or Jordan and attempt to give a Western intelligence test.

>kek
Okay, let's review it then.
>related languages
Everyone spoke a Gallo-Romance language except for Bretons, Basques, Alsaciens, a few Franconian speaking Lorrains, and Flemings.
>common ancestors
The native Gaulish population of Western Europe, with general Frankish and Roman admixture. Migrations also shaped the face of France, but not to the point that the people living in France in the 18th century were completely unrelated to one another.
>common history
Pretty self-explanatory.
>similar customs and culture
I don't see what's so far-fetched about claiming that a Burgundian and a Champenois were more closely matched in terms of customs than with anyone outside of France. In fact, when customary law was still a thing in France, I'm pretty sure that the country was legally divided into parts that shared or didn't share the same customs from the point of view of legal entities to make jurisdiction more efficient.

>It was easy because of the super-strong government, absolutism then jacobinism unified the Frenchs, not your Conversano-tier bullshits
I never claimed that Jacobinism didn't play a hand in unifying the country. I claimed that it wouldn't have happened if the people were as different as you're claiming. See, I agree that there were cultural differences between people from different provinces in France, but you're making it sound like unifying France was an Austria-Hungary type of deal. It wasn't. It was pretty easy. The French identity rose naturally under the influence of Jacobinism when the country most needed unity.

today's frenchs lost their identities because of globalization + jacobinism and all look the same culturally but that wasn't like that 50 years ago

If France was really an ethnostate, French-Canadians, Acadians and Cajuns would consider themselves and be considered as Frenchs

Plus francaiese je vous remercie Muhamad

>French-Canadians, Acadians and Cajuns would consider themselves and be considered as Frenchs
Not after three centuries of separate cultural evolution. And not in those circumstances. All three groups were abandoned by the Kingdom of France, it's no wonder that they don't call themselves French.

It's over francois isn't france like 50% ethnic french ? You can't just colonize our countries and leave without consequences...

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Based, you just saved a bunch of Jow Forumstards from forming their opinions on your country based on some brainlet's word diarrhea on Jow Forums. A true credit to your country.

You can make children in Egypt or Jordan pass IQ tests without the verbal components, (and get a non-verbal IQ) and remove the "culture shock factor" as you put it.

And I only have anectodal evidence on this but from the IQ tests I have seen passed by problem children( between 6 and 10 yo) in French schools (which are often 2nd or higher generation arabs), the arabs and maghrebis do tend to score lower than the white problem children.
Although this is only on a subset of all children so it's not really anything conclusive.

>harkis

No you didn't. You shat on them and complete neglected them over the pied noirs (who were french and/or European).
Many if you "shitskins" before immigration faced a duckling of discrimination.

Why do the French call Arabs "butter"?

Arab
Bara
Bar
Beur

It is the most reliable thing psychology produced

Oh, that's shit. I thought it was perhaps because of their terrible skin colour

Lmao. SEETHING. France will be an Arab country before the end of the century. Fucking deal with it.

Not if we kill all of you.

race based stats are illegal in france

French argot is seriously fucked up. I really try but it's hard not to give up with this fucking shit. French are really retarded sometimes
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verlan

Your entire soccer team is made up of Africans and Arabs. In a race war, you'd all be put to the sword like what happened in Algeria and Haiti

You mean like how we killed 50%(150000) of the FLN forces while losing roughly 5.4%(25600) of ours? Or like how we wrecked Haiti's economy so hard they never recovered?
Fucking shitskins. The day of reckoning is coming upon you.

>bragging about killing people
fucking muslims

>assimilated
no. they live in their own neighboroughs

I wasn't bragging. He claimed that we were put to the sword by his people and I simply showed him that it was the opposite.

>forgetting that every wh*Toid man, woman and child was butchered like an animal

Keep dreaming, you're population is too cucked to do anything back. Majority of white frogs unironically support Multiculturalism. Just look at election results.

>killing your enemies is bad

Fucking wh*Toids

Lol we'll see if your heads won't be rolling in a few decades. We're the birthplace of the revolution, not Sweden.

it isn't good either, retard.

You're delusional. People with your opinions are less than 5%. In any race war, the Arabs will curb stomp you. Whites don't have the killer instinct the same way Arabs do. Arabs, once they identify someone as an enemy, will kill them without a second thought. Just look at Charlie hebdo. That is your future.

Spoken like a true europussy.

There's a reason why Palestinians name streets after people who kill kikes. We take pride in killing our enemies.

Nafris are a subservient people who were always ruled by foreigners. Their heads will roll and they will be shipped back to Maghreb.

Sure thing, Jean Claude

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Yet you are all gonna disappear since kikes are way better than you at everything.

>FN
>solving anything

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But even the non-verbal component would freak a non-westerner out.

The children are likely not accustom to problem solving on pencil and paper. It's not fair to put children like that against western children that have grownup filling in multiple choice tests.

naming a street isn't related to the moral act of killing but to the civil act of serving your nation, mr retardo

>Someverlanwords, such asmeuf, have become so commonplace that they have been included in thePetit Larousseand a doubly "verlanised" version was deemed necessary, so the singly verlanisedmeufbecamefeumeu; similarly, theverlanwordbeur, derived fromarabe, has become accepted into popular culture such that it has been re-verlanised to yieldrebeu.

Literally why

surely the fact that killing random kikes is considered serving your nation means that there is a different attitude towards the moral act of killing

No greater civil act of serving the nation than killing Jews, Giussepe

>Do you remember the time we killed a bunch of inbreds with 86 IQ and 81 IQ negroes with first world intelligence, military strategy, and weapons?
>WHITE POWER

Not really. Every nation gives honor to their soldiers.
I guess we can see why your nation sucks.

WISC (IQ tests for children) isn't pen and paper, especially for the non-verbal portions. The child is shown pictures/numbers and asked to point out the right answer between a choice of multiple answers to the person making him run the test, or in the case of a specific subtest asked to form specific patterns with white/red colored cubes. No pen and paper.

for killing other soldiers, not civilians

no, for achieving something that can be used by the state as propaganda.

Disgusting french fucks. I wish you nothing but a muslim black future for your country

But even the cube subtest isn't something they're accustomed to.

Western children grow up playing chess, thinking abstractly. Telling them to do something strange is taken with a shrug. Arab children likely never encounter a multiple choice test of any sort or kind throughout their education. When you try and get a WISC test out of them when they're barely aware as to what they're doing it's not fair.

And then motivation is another factor.
I don't think you'd take intelligence testing seriously in a 3rd world country if you're more worried about life itself

It's not good to compare different cultures with one test not designed for Arabs. Chinese and Vietnamese are smarter than 92 IQ, so it's a non-issue for them, but Arabs likely have problems wrapping their head around something totally different

>I am a monarchist.
[disdain in Burger intensifies]

Your vision of the world is that of arab children growing up in mudhuts eating dirt cookies when that is simply not the case. They have schools over there too, and education for children, and I'm certain some children over there play chess. (A chess set isn't an expensive or intricate item).

But they have an inferior standard of life in general. It's definitely not the same as in the west. You don't need to live like you live in Haiti, but you just need to live and just exist to have inequality in intelligence tests. There is likely nothing that makes the children actually think floating around in their schools.

It's likely just memorization with addition and subtraction. In the United States, the schools can't even keep consistent SAT scores.

How can anyone prove that it's fair to give 3rd world people a first world test?
Mexicans score higher on IQ tests in the USA.

>flag
it had to be an american

Liberté individuelle, égalité civique, fraternité raciale.

Then it falls to the general level of education being lower (which is true) and not some culture shock as you initially put it. I agree that you can't just give IQ tests to third worlders and use it to say that such and such race is dumber by nature, but it has little to do with "culture shock" (and there isn't much culture shock between western and arab countries believe it or not)

Lol, I though it was a skin colour thing too

Btw we also verlan'd "beur" so nowadays we call them "rebeu"
Yeah I know...

free bretony

But if the entire country has a lower level of education, it does constitute culture shock.

It's not as severe as asking a bushman to do an IQ test, but it's still there.

It's enough to knock 3-4 points off of an intelligence test and make the average (with malnutrition) lower than the genetic potential.

Dunno for the average, but I got myself 138.

Please Guillaume, French is not an ethnicity, don't come and say Corsican, gascons, normands, bretons and basques are the same.

>The children are likely not accustom to problem solving on pencil and paper
Are you being serious right now?

I think IQ tests mean jack-shit because they are not a very reliable measure of intelligence and they don't transcend cultures.

There was this experiment where a bunch of austrian kids and a kids from a zulu village in eastern DR congo were tested with the Müller-Lyer optical illusion. Almost all the austrian kids fell for the illusion and thought that one line is longer than the other. However, most zulu kids figured out that the lines are equal in length. This is because during upbringing, the zulu kids were used to seeing domes and other curves and not straight buildings. I guess IQ is like that in a way.

LE DROIT DU SOL N'EXISTE PAS
UNIQUEMENT LE DROIT DU SANG ET l'ENGAGEMENT APPORTE A SON PAYS

If you define "culture shock" that way then sure.
If you want stats on IQ tests for arabs who grew up in first-world countries, I would try looking for statistics on those who grew up in the US since the US allows racial statistics (and France doesn't).

>between 6 and 10yo
Isn't 10 pretty late for an IQ test?

Again talking about my experience, even if it's just mine, I passed one at 5

you perfectly can, the new france is the consequence of jewish/ good leftist goy politicians.

Not that I mind the complete obliteration of france tho

Of course they had french citizenship, i was talking about accepting in the cultue and in the society

Immigration and migration to france started since independance and even before

The test results I've seen were from problem children in primary school, between CP and CM2. You can pass IQ tests later or earlier. I passed one at 5 myself.

Dude do you really think Arabic countries are that big of shitholes?

> Arab children likely never encounter a multiple choice test of any sort or kind throughout their education.
Fucking hell man. . . What's your idea of life in MENA? You do realize taking shit like IGCSEs & IALs and SATs are normal in countries like Egypt? Even I personally, took 3 A levels during highschool.

Your idea of life in mena is just twisted as fuck.

but it is accelerated and politically supported nowadays

whatever about IQ level, arabs and also africans have very anti intellectual cultures
they don't read or anything like that

Factually wrong. Most immigration to France happened in the 50s to rebuild the country after WW2.
Immigration in France is actually pretty hard nowadays for who aren't doctors or engineers.

True for those countries, but he's talking about 2nd generation who were raised and educated in France.

Oh didn't think you could, thanks.

It was politically supported since the 70s with Giscard d'Estaing though, it's not as recent as you think.

>And italians are not
Rude

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Your Jow Forumstard ass proved wrong by the french fries faggots themselves

interesting, I thought it was pretty softcore in the 60s and 70s and it got progressively faster

>have no access to education
>be stupid

woah

you're still cancerous, sandnigger