Brazil is a fucking weird country.
You have the center-south region, that is basically the richest place in Latin America.
Then you have the North-Northeast, that is basically the poorest place in Latin America with Guatemala, Honduras, Belize, Bolivia and El Salvador (Haiti is not Latin America, but French territory hehe)
Brazil is literally half of south america. Its not divided by borders and its fucking gigantic and diverse, so of course its going to have all sorts of weird shit. Also you didnt mention the most remarkable part of brazil which is its unspeakable level of violence. Your murder rate truly boggle the mind no matter how you look at it.
Personally I blame the radiation anomaly over South America.
It turns them all into violent mutants.
By rate its not that of an anomaly in Latin America though, it's just that we have so much people that the numbers will be staggering high of course
but french is a latin language?
Brazil from south to north
>original farming land, but with bad connection to the rest of Brasil, because rivers go South
>new farmland, dominated by corporations, used to be hard to farm until fertilizers were introduced
>the jungle where you can't really build easily, not good for intense farming
And because of mountain chains in the South all of Brazil requires a lot of investments to get the ball rolling which is hard to generate when you're a bunch of socialist makakos with no discipline. Eny Euro or Oriental nation would turn this shit around in 3 decades tho.
>that is basically the richest place in Latin America.
no its not shut the fuck up
yeah it's actually the Falklands
You are mostly right, except for the infrastructure stuff, when we started to build connections to the rest of the country in the 50's the automobile industry was given priority, so we are stuck with a lack of ferry l, which would be very costly to build from the ground up, just look at the US, they have real problems with infra structure and way more money than us, it's a problem we are only now deciding to do something about it because of the things you already mentioned, even though our economy have been in bad shape since 2010
>richest place in Latin America
that'd be Chile
Just the city os Sao Paulo has the a bigger GDP than every country in Latin America except Mexico, and a lot of our Southern states cities has the HDI of some of the Nordic countries
>HDI of some of the Nordic countries
No they don't, HDI of provinces/states etc. cannot be compared with HDI of countries. It's a different scale.
What I don't understand is why it's so concentrated in the south.
You'd think they would develop the North of the country.
I mean they've even got the white people blood in spades.
Yes but Latin America is for only Spanish and Portuguese speaking countries. You don't say Quebec is Latin America
I know, but I just wanted to point out how disparate in terms of poverty/riches Brazil is, also the cities I'm talking about have more than 3, 4 million each
It's reversed in the southern hemisphere
Well, think about your own colonization, places where plantations and resource rich areas where primarily colonized by slaves and a few elites with no focus on development, the South is where most of the ports and eventually big cities were settled in the 1700's, we ended up with kinda the same situation the US pre Civil war
But your country could be so much more if you expanded into the North and didn't just let it stay Jungle, Mulattoes and Indios.
You could put those 90 IQ people to work in factories, farms and export it to foreign countries, etc.
A lot of untapped potential that no one is interested in because it's easier to just keep going the way they're going.
Whatever you say, but you can walk around southern Brazilian cities on Google Street view and they don't look first world at all. They also have favelas, shitty roads, neglected buildings etc. Maybe it looks better than the North but not as much as you try to present
Well the move toward the central and northern areas are a very recent event, we just settled our new capital in the 60's in the center of the country, and no one in their sane mind would destroy the Amazon rainforest, the ambiental damage would be unprecedented, we are a huge country but we are destined to only use half of it until some sort of apocalypse
You get shitty roads and neglected buildings in the USA too, so there's a good chance you're being too critical.
The favelas are unique to Brazil though.
>for only
what kind of americanized piece of shit are you
so French Guiana and Haiti aren't Latin America?
Google maps is not a good way to learn at all, unless you know what you are looking for, in Brazil usually every rich city is surrounded by poor suburban areas
>You get shitty roads and neglected buildings in the USA too, so there's a good chance you're being too critical.
People in the "central europe" think that a lack of neglected buildings and bad roads equals first world. It's the same here in Slovenia, we don't have any major neglected areas so people think we are first world.
>The favelas are unique to Brazil though
only the name is unique
pick any metropoli, you will find an ascended slum village (from sheer force of adding more and more population to it who wants and does their best to raise infraestructure) in there
Easier said than done, the north is owned by ex Portuguese colonial elites who refuse to change things else their social status be challenged by new money. Also niggers are too damn poor and ignorant to know or do anything about it
OP is an autistic guy. Just ignore him. There is no first world looking Latin American city.
>Brazil usually every rich city is surrounded by poor suburban areas
That's the most 3rd world thing ever though
I never said we are not 3rd world, no even the most deluded Brazilian will
Brazil isn't a bad place to live like India, the Congo though.
It's more like Mexico.
>fighting over who is less shit
you're the only one doing it
>Brazil isn't a bad place to live like India, the Congo though.
That's true, brazil falls into Eastern Europe tier countries (Belarus, Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan)
Paraguay is worst than our worst states tho.
Latin America is unequal as fuck. This is why there are not much differences between the richest and the poorest for example. This is why you shouldn't believe in HDI so much. Every Polish city looks better than even Santiago. Because poor Poles aren't so fucked and taxes here exploit poor people and make them dependent of populism.
It depends. If you are in the northeast, it is congo tier.
Nah, just look at gini for that matter. Northeast nigger zil is even more unequal than the rest;
Also, namibia tier gdp per capta
Eastern Europe is way more egalitarian. Average eastern european poor people live in commieblocks. Meanwhile in Latin America even Chile is full of slums.
Northeast is our southern italy. Literally everthing northern italians complain about their south, we complain about northeast the same way
But you can just leave for a more developed part of Brazil.
You can't do that in the Congo.
Exactly the point. French Guiana is not Latin America
Tudo isso é porque os anões petistas de merda são nordestinos? Mil perdões por eles.
How do we increase Brazilian IQ?
remove northeastern niggers from the account.
I'm pretty sure I'm whiter than you.
>northeastern
>white
Never seen one. And trust me, my city is filled with you niggers. Even if you, as an idividual, is white, 99.9% of northeasterns arent.
this
People don’t consider Quebec Latin America because it’s not even country but part of Canada which is an English majority country
no argument there
again, you're the only butthurt here
>Because poor Poles aren't so fucked and taxes here exploit poor people and make them dependent of populism.
Em, it's the other way around. Here poor people are still considered part of the society (mostly because our poor are not as poor as yours), so they do pay relatively high taxes, because they can't avoid it just like it is done in Brazil. I'm sure a lot of children in Brazilian favelas are not even registered, no one knows they are born, no one knows they live, no one knows they smuggle drugs, no one but liveleak users knows they were brutally murdered somewhere in a jungle because they entered enemy gang's territory, so how could they pay any taxes? From selling drugs or from selling weapons? Here such illegal activities don't exist. Well, here when it is found out that some poor guy steals electricity from other houses, it is a big nation-wide news. In Brazil probably like 1/5 of people (so more than population of Poland) are engaged in electricity theft.
Our poverty is completely different than yours, our poor people are the same people like any other, just they make less money. In Brazil, poor people are hardly people, they're forgotten by everyone, no one cares what they do for living and if they live at all.
>It's the same here in Slovenia, we don't have any major neglected areas so people think we are first world.
No one thinks like that seriously, Janez.
I've seen a lot of videos videos with the violent dismemberment of people in Brazil. Now i'm fearing to go in Brazil. You are crazy and sick people.
Which are the states that are more industrialized after Sao Paulo?
Most of them are from the northeast
But it does not change the essence.
>In Brazil probably like 1/5 of people (so more than population of Poland) are engaged in electricity theft.
H-heh. W-who would do that?
>North-Northeast, that is basically the poorest place in Latin America
Sure we're poor, but we're not Bolivia-tier poor, retard.
The vast majority of homicides are directly related to drugs and gang warfare, don't be a nigger involved in crime and you're fine.
Well the same could be said about Russia
Rio, Minas Gerais, Rio Grande do Sul, Paraná, Santa Catarina
I want to be the president of Brazil.
Amd establish market socialism based on agriculture and food production. Later - IT valleys and shit.
We already have a highly state-controlled market fucking up the country, thanks but no thanks.
But i want to bring prosperity to this country and people :c
I have been living in this country since my birth already as 23 years. I for all 7 years of sitting on the image boards I have never seen a single video where the Russians dismembered their countrymen. Walking along the street of my own town I'm not afraid that I will be cut down and dismembered.
State capitalism brings the exact opposite of prosperity.
Trust me, we have been trying it for a century.
You are even poorer than them.
Why do Southern Brazilians love to pretend that they are rich?
No on is pretending, muhammad.
>Walking along the street of my own town I'm not afraid that I will be cut down and dismembered.
Me neither, desu. You'd have to be involved in heavy drug dealing shit or in prison to be worried about that, even here.
Do you think free market will just fix all shit like a charm?
What can help Brazil in ur opinion?
INDIVIDUALLY they might be rich
but also are """"patriotic""" and think they should defend Brazil from "internet attack and diffamation
Have you ever fucking been here? Or do you get all your information about the Northeast from Bolsonaro meme pages on Facebook?
>Trust me, we have been trying it for a century.
The problem is that free market is always implemented with Neo-Liberalism here. Which only destroys our economy.
Northeast gdp per capta is smaller than bolivia's
en.wikipedia.org
>What can help Brazil in ur opinion?
that the leaders stop stealing all the cash
same for my country and most third world countries, i must add
>neoliberalism
>Do you think free market will just fix all shit like a charm?
Not all the shit but yes it would be a huge improvement, Brazil has lots of entrepreneurial-minded people with the will to make it big who just can't because of government highly favoring the established market giants.
The biggest problem we have is the northeast.
We need to get rid of them ASAP
Free market was never implemented here, what are you talking about?
And what do you mean by neo-liberalism? It's not a term with a clear definition and leftists just use it as a nebulous word to describe anything they don't like.
The problem in SA with liberalism is that the elite here always looks for protectionism so we consume the things they produce and not the things we would like to consume, they don't want to compete.
>Paraíba (Northeast)
>Comparable country: Iceland
>Espírito Santo (Southeast)
>Comparable country: Democratic Republic of the Congo
very good point there
Well.. Yes. That's the problem if that so.
But i don't actually believe these people (politics) will steal any really valuable numbers like if your budget for year is about 9 999 999 999+ usd, for what fucking reason you would steal even 1/10 of it? For what? Do it one time and your grandgrandgrand....grandsons won't work a thousand years after that.
What's going on with small business in Brazil now? What about taxes?
Now look at the GDP PER CAPITA, illiterate northeastern nigger
I actually do not understand how liberalism affects on economics.
Cause here we hace autoritarian police state and liberals here are mostly clowns from the internet.
>What's going on with small business in Brazil now?
Unviable due to extreme bureaucracy, it's just too expensive and the slightest misstep will force you to close your doors, the majority of small businesses are unregistered to avoid bureaucracy and fees.
>What about taxes?
Extremely high and the country is in last place in terms of tax returns related to the well-being of society, most of it is spent in useless public jobs and benefits to already established companies.
well, there's A LOT of politicians. and they're ALL bad
>For what?
to spend it all on drugs and hoes
i don't know what's the ambition that drive some men to grab and keep grabbing
it's obvious in their life style that they need to spend and spend more. the problem is that their money source isn't renewable because they fucking STEALING it, not investing it
>I actually do not understand how liberalism affects on economics
really short explanation:
when the market is left to do whatever they want, either more and more companies get formed or a single company crushes them all
if there are lots of companies, they all try their best to please their customer while at the same time generating lots of jobs and sidejobs. the market grows
with one single company (monopoly) the market doesn't grow because there's no reason to grow, sales and jobs are safe so why bother being the best? but one fine day a foreigner imported good will be prefered by the people and all the (local) market goes to trash
>Minas Gerais
>Comparable country: Cuba
>Extremely high and the country is in last place in terms of tax returns related to the well-being of society, most of it is spent in useless public jobs and benefits to already established companies.
Sounds a lot like Russia. But in the last 10 years there's some changes for small business which make it more accessable for people. And still, most of people don't want to do it because buying some shit with lower price and selling it with higher price is much easier than production...
Huh.
proportionally the murder rate is awful
>In 2017, Brazil had a murder rate of 29.2 per 100,000 population.
en.wikipedia.org
unodc.org
free-market societies are way more developed and people live better too. It's a fact.
the so-called 'neo-liberalsim' here in SA was just the local elites and politicians corporativism. That's why it was bullshit and everybody hates it. It was pseud-free-market, just Chile achieve to do it best among all other countries.
>northeast region
>gdp per capta USD; 4,495
So.. liberal market is actually good, isn't? What's the problem then or i got you wrong?
local elites don't want to risk or compete, they make an alliance with the political system to be protectionist and we are forced to buy their shitty products so they got much richer
Comparing GDP between countries is stupid since it relies on exchange rates and it doesn't tell you how that money is spread among society.
Cuba is a classic example of a "decent on paper, horrible in practice" kind of country where a select few control everything and the average person lives in Africa-tier conditions.