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The "exotic kanji I'm never gonna see or use in my life" of the day is
蠰
Looks pretty cool
そのかんじはなんですか?
What are mature cards in Anki?
Cards that are allowed to drink.
(Their "days until rep" counter is over 21 days)
Whoa, looking cool, Joker!
(Thanks)
I'm learning German and I want to pick up Japanese too.
Found some Anki deck for kanji learning in German but it doesn't provide Japanese pronunciation or stroke order.
Recommend me a deck for kanji learning, preferably in German so I can learn 2 languages at once.
Are you sure it's even possible to learn two languages simultaneously at a decent rate?
Warum nicht? Ich denke dass das wird viel Spaß sein.
it's possible if you have much time on your hands
but what is trying to do is bound to fail hard
俺の漢字が下手糞
You underestimate what a pole is capable of.
I want to go away from learning through translation but I'm too anxious to go in deep water and learning a language without a slightest hint so I thought learning two languages at once would be a nice compromise. When having some problem in one of the languages, I can support with the other if I've learned what I want to learn faster in the other language.
I want to learn more languages so if I find it not challenging enough I might throw in another language. Or two cause I'd like to learn Greenlandic and much content for learning Greenlandic is in Danish.
I would recommend WaniKani, isn't really a deck but it uses SRS same as Anki. alot of people shit on them because it costs money, but it seems to work ok. It might take you a year and a half because it requires memorization of basically all the jouyu kanji which is like 2150 Characters, but any other method won't take you any shorter or longer.
also, remember to practice hand writing, it enters your brain better. especially when some kanji are litteraly only one or two strokes different such as 時、詩、侍、持、待
>He wants to put Danish into the mix too
Alright you're getting ahead of yourself now.
>You underestimate what a pole is capable of
I'm not some 2 bit whore, I'm full x86 and capable of using a pole
Not at the moment, let's start simple. I'm a simple man.
This is some great advice
japanese is completely alien to you, you need a strong grasp of certain concepts that is only possible through a language that you know well
I'm learning french on the side so sometimes I watch anime with french subtitles for example, which is pretty fun, but absolutely no way to start learning either language... you can do that shit when you have at least some solid grasp of one of them
you can take the effort for learning german, multiply it by at least 3 and that's what japanese will cost you, I'm not even memeing
you better start it probably and spare yoursefl some time and frustration
*properly
Thanks, I've learned about 300 Kanji on my own (too busy with online classes and work to put full dedication) and I am thinking of just buying a subscription to WaniKani since it also teaches you vocab.
My plan is to learn kanji because reading is a powerful tool in language learning and I believe it's especially true for a logographic system. Then I'd find some stuff to read, find anime with jap subs and try to pick up the language. Even if I don't manage to follow the subtitles, that's ok cause this way I learn speed reading the kanji at the same time. The extra reward of learning kanji in German is to benefit from the advantages of a logographic writing system to learn German. I wouldn't be surprised if I ended up learning both languages faster than translating shit in each language separately to either English or Polish.
And learning German to the small extent that I've learned it so far has been very little effort. I attended the classes and passed them but I didn't spend a minute learning it apart from that, except I was listening to tons of German songs.
The class was A2 but my skills are this plus some vocab picked from the songs, minus die/der/das and their declension, and the Partizips, because they require some effort and some degree of memorization.
sorry but this is not feasible in any way whatsover
you can approach western languages this way, because they already are somewhat similar to yours, but it just won't work this way for japanese, you better trust me on this one
2 years of the course and I can't remember all the vocab from the book even though we had little pictures and listening exercises but I can tell you whole sentences from song lyrics.
Warum ich hier bin weiß ich nicht
Mein Blick ist starr, ja das ist hier pflicht
Unter verruckten Idioten und Psychopaten
Von den Ärzten wurde ich verraten
Der Gang ist abgehackt verschlossen
Die Fenstergitter sind vahnsinnsprossen
Just provide me with what I asked for and I'll see for myself if it's feasible to use it the way I want and get expected results.
便秘
Oh I think I'll make lots of grammar mistakes at first so I'd need to find Japanese friends online, but that's not my concern for today. Today I just want to find kanji learning content in German.
I found this. japanisch-lernen.info
I don't see stroke order tho, which is very important to me cause I'm good at learning stuff by writing.
I thought only 大 犬 and 太 existed.
What are the other ones?
A meme
What do you mean? The amount of kanji that share the 大 radical with as few differences as possible? You can use jisho.org
maybe you could buy the german version of Remembering the Kanji 1, I can't think of anything else
>I don't see stroke order tho, which is very important to me cause I'm good at learning stuff by writing.
False
>but any other method won't take you any shorter or longer.
Hundreds of people have done RtK in under 3 months. I'm not saying that Wanikani is bad, because it does teach you a lot of vocabulary as well, but it's probably not as fast as if you just learned the kanji first and then learned the vocab afterwards.
Well, the second problem is, it doesn't exist, so if you want it, you'll have to make it.
>wanikani
>paying for a worse anki
only issue is remembering the kanji doesn't teach you pronounciations iirc. for example it'll teach you 山 means mountain, but how exactly do you pronounce that?
in case anyone didn't know
kunyomi for 山 is やま
onyomi for 山 is サン
Can somebody tell me why どうしたもんか translates to どうしたらいいだろうか. An uncertaintiy being expressed by the past form is too spooky for me.
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~た could also work as counterfactual in some contexts
大 is not present, so only the other two are in the chart. The point of the poster is making it a challenge to pick the correct ones.
There's undoubtedly some buried silk scroll or tucked away dried bamboo book in China that lists 5 of those 異文字
I think I understand the ものか construction but I still don't get why the ta form is being used or what effect it's supoosed to have. If you are wondering about what you should do you are thinking about the future not the past, no? On the other hand the construction using the the potential form makes sense to me. (I wonder if I can live in a slightly more spacious house.)
I think it's one of those phrases you shouldn't think too literally about
>yomichan doesn't recognize it
Fuck that shit brah
Why not say どうすればいい or どうしおう or even どうする?If shit's too hard just say something easier that gets the point across.
in this sentence
>あなたはどう思いますか
if I replace どう with 何 will the sentence mean the same thing?
in Japanese it is "how do you think". you can't use 何 in Japanese and you can't use "how" in English
about→それについて(それに関して)
what do you think→どう思いますか(貴方はどの様に思いますか)
These two sentences are confusing the shit out of me. What is she saying?
"I'm a customer, but I'm not a customer! I (Rin) could not help but come here!"
Oh wow, ~なければならない is a thing. Thanks user.
She is not saying anything, those are thought balloons.
I went to a Japanese tea ceremony. It was cool and all but I really enjoyed listening to them talk in Japanese and pick up a few words.
>ありがと
>これ/それ
>お茶
>the particles はにでか......
>でも
>日本
My grammar and vocabulary is VERY limited but I was happy to understand a few words and speak a little bit to them.
Funny bit was when I introduced myself to one of the women I Bowed and we both はじめまして. She then assumed I spoke Japanese and started talking to me. I explained ごめん. ちょと日本語. Then she started talking a little slower in Japanese. Me and the other women who knew I knew very little Japanese laughed as I explained again. ちょとちょと日本語. 私は日本語話せない.私は日本語を勉強する
もう一度見なければならない
天,头,夭,
グラグロックご話したい
どうしてロック語難しい?
ごちそうさま!
I volunteered at a Japanese event a few months ago with some games, the only practice I got this time was telling people がんばれ! when they gave me their game tickets. Was busier than I thought it would be and I had to focus more on the volunteering.
I'm really shy though and stutter a lot when I'm trying to speak even English. I can follow conversations well though.
Keep going user, hopefully you made some contacts to continue practicing!
大→BIG
犬→dog
太い。。。
太い線
bold line
thick
fat→肥ってる 太ってる
Correct me.
>どうやって間食は作ったすか
どうやって間食を作ったんすか?
Can I put 餡の間食 if it was a snack with red bean paste?
Maybe post what you wanted to say in English so people don't have to try to guess what you wanted to say
Sorry I keep assuming everyone else that knows more then me is a master of 日本語
i'd rather rephrase it with "餡のお菓子/餡のおやつ" but your party will clearly understand what you mean
>your party
collocutor i mean
>collocutor
Now that's some fancy English. Never heard the word before.
some of Japanese commonplace words are nowhere to be found as far as i read English medium. as for collocutor, "話し相手" is a pretty common Japanese word to refer to "someone to talk with" but it seems there are scarce, uncommon English words which corresponds to it.
Can you correct my English?
"I wanted to go is from the Kansas but in a airplane there aren't my ticket family."
I'm pretty sure you are the guy who taught me a word a week or so ago. I can't remember what it was but the conversation was about lumber.
>it's a "japanese studies comes to a halt because of a lack of motivation, depression, or college" episode
yes that's me. it's "tautology" amirite?
やっぱり!
ありがとう!今回、書き留めた
>muh depression
Depression doesn't exist, lazy cunt. But keep making excuses not to be productive like the dumb american you are.
fortitude
Why only half the sclera goes over the hairlock? That's wrong.
>Depression doesn't exist
is that why we understand many of the hormonal causes of it
it's a common technique in manga
Not him, but
>I'm tired, I can't study right now.
>How about you get some sleep and do it when you wake up?
>GREAT IDEA!
>I'm hungry, I can't study right now.
>How about you get some food and do it when you finish?
>GREAT IDEA!
>I'm depressed, I can't study right now.
>How about you get some exercise, sunlight and do it when you're better?
>EKSSHHHHHKYOOOOZE ME I HAVE A CUNDISHUN!!! I CAN'T HELP IT, OKAY?
How do I get decent at speaking? I can write sentences fairly easily using what I know, but I have difficulty reading them out loud, and speaking sentences out of thin air is even worse.
Shadowing, self-talk.
Its a made up phrase. I think that poster was making a reference to "have your cake and eat it too" which is a common English expression. But in the case of "You only get the crust of your cake", I think the poster meant "You only get a small amount of what you want".
For example, if a person tried learning vocabulary by memorizing sentence cards without studying grammar or kanji, they would still learn, but only a little (because it's an inefficient method). They only get the crust (some words) rather than the cake (words, grammar, kanji, etc)
I mostly like the word "crust" though. It's very descriptive and we usually use it for describing bread, not for cake.
1. move to japan
2. move into a low rent/shitty area full of domestic violence
3. pull out the lawn chair
4. try and mimic like a parrot
ふむふむ, なるほど
But Churchill did.
I'm still going to be in trouble even if no one says that kind of thing to me.
How good is this translation?
Original:
I don't really like people who are happier than me
Japanese:
僕より幸せな人があまり好きじゃないんです。
You autistics really are insufferable.
Looks good to me
Oh yes I'm sorry, obviously the reason why you don't know Japanese is because of your "depression". Your depression is the cause of everything bad in your life, and you're just too mentally weak to do anything about it.
>and you're just too mentally weak to do anything about it.
he might be onto something here
>rikaichan only has reading, not meaning
A kanji without meaning?
Is it only used in names?