Back from NY

Back from NY

Never have seen so many homeless people in my life and i live in Sao Paulo.
Seems a sea of homeless people.
New York alone has almost more very-high-net-worth individuals than all the rest of the world combined in Manhattan.
Why donĀ“t they do something about this??

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They do. There is a whole welfare system for the homeless in nyc. Alot of homeless people in nyc are actually homeless by choice.

What happen with these people in the winter??

And its Ultra high-net-worth individuals

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No landlord wants to lower their rents as long as there are people willing to pay them.

Middle to lower classes' wages aren't rising enough to meet those rents.

most homeless in the first world are homeless by choice, theres a tonne of welfare and charitable support but they are drug addicts, mentally ill and so on

That's how I felt when I visited Chicago. It's sad but makes you wonder how homelessness got to this point

Lol the homeless are not ex middleclass new yorkers who can no longer afford rent. Those guys borrow money or just leave nyc.

Being mentally ill is a choice now then. thanks breh.

Addiction is not a disease either just a little choice. Thanks for these insights now.

>Thinking addiction is not a choice
The state of f*rst worlders

no being mentally ill is not a choice but they will leave treatment centres, abandon support groups etc. Unless you literally want to government to arrest these people every time they go awol from some support group you will never be able to fix homelessness

Most homeless people in new york are druggies, mentally ill people and veterans .

>a-a lot of them are by choice
And what about the vast majority then?

these people don't take responsibility for anything. To them its societies fault someone was stupid enough to start doing heroin

See this
Meth and cocaine are not a joke

Those are their pets. If they are good boys they get leftovers from restaurants and money to buy crack.

because democrats don't practice the socialism they preach.

Nyc has shitton of welfare systems m8.

How can someone be filthy rich without making 10 other people filthy poor?

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Funny same happened to me when I went to Sao Paulo. Downtown was probably one of the sketchiest places I've ever been in

Not taking into account that people are born more hereditarily prone to doing drugs and alcohol.

Like you might just drink some pints and go meh i'll drink more next week, but someone who has inherited disfavourable traits will have a really hard time stopping.

Its all in the neuropsychology and this is pretty much common basic 101 class stuff now.

Some people are just more prone to becoming addicted. You might have your kiddy views about shit but that doesn't mean anything.

The one thing that struck me about the homeless in NYC was the fact that a lot of them seemed to be crazy young. I saw lots of

and? Do you know anything? The weathiest are not funding it, is it funded by all NY taxpayers. Take a look at the rates.

God I hate educating americans on their own economics.

You know that nyc has programs like that too. Education in cuny collgees is free if you are homeless.

Yeah but what if you really are bonkers like really psychotic and sick. Ofcourse you'll leave any facilities etc.

Is this your fault then? Are you in control of your actions? Big questions these.

nice redditspacing, goes well with your reddit opinions
its you who has kiddie views. people are born with hereditary conditions, yes. Does that excuse them for being addicted? No, of course not. They still chose to drink or to take a hit of heroin or smoke some crack.
Just like a fat person is not fat because its in muh genes, they're fat because they ate too much unhealthy foods.

Its a sad fact that many drug addicts are mentally ill or come from broken homes but the reality is only so much can be done for them. In the past these types of people would be locked in mental institutes but people thought that was inhumane so now they roam the streets and get into trouble. We can try help them get out but really theres only so much you can do to help a heroin addicted, mentally ill person.

What does this have to do with my post you reatrd. I wasn't talking about tax rates in nyc. The wealthy are also taxpayers. Yeah their rates should be higher but they still do pay money.

I don't think anybody has denied addiction being a mental illness.

Coming from someone who works on health in a public hospital, I can tell you that there're plenty of patients who you simply won't be able to help, even if you have therapy groups, shelter, docteurs and such working with them. And in such a densely populated area like NY, it's only natural that these people will concentrate around areas where they can get food and shelter.

well at what point do you stop treating people like children? Should a man who is not hurting anyone but is addicted to heroin so he cant hold down a job be forced to go to therapy groups?

Yeah these people at the mature age of 14 just chose to do this stuff while being completely shunned by their parents and societies. With their mature brains they took the choice of becoming alcoholic.

Get fucking rekt idiot you are just a little kiddie spewing shit on the internet with your middle class shit opinions based on a episode of the oprah.

LOL

>nordick fairy thinks to call someone who grew up in drug infested shithole middle class
LOL
I grew up in an area that had such massive problems in the past vigilante groups formed to try and run the drug dealers out of the area, this was common all over Dublin up until the 90s.
And yeah half these people come from broken homes but what can be done? Did they get a fair start at life? No, but at the end of the day they made the choice to do drugs, others in the same situation didn't.
I know people with alcoholic parents or with aunts and uncles that died of heroin addiction. That doesn't mean they automatically became them too
its not like I've even said services or anything should be cut for the homeless or drug addicted, I just said that theres only so much that can be done before you would literally have to force them to go to social programs

I am a believer of no welfare or minimal welfare. Like you can get to a shelter if you are freezing.

Never seen any positive effects of the programs we have here that cost billions per day.

Still saying that it is these people that are at fault is wrong I think. They are the product of the society we live in.

I don't really agree with the thing you are saying that they made the choice of doing drugs/alcohol. Not from norway but where I come from it starts at 12-13 and then you childhood dreams are over and you are done for.

Its not a choice as much as living in a place where it happens.

and when do you think most people start drinking here? At 18 when it is legal? Everyone starts as teenagers
Its easy to be overly sympathetic for drug addicts, they deserve compassion but only so much. They ruin their families and communities

Many poor parts of dublin in the past were not violent or crime ridden, its mainly because of addiction that they are

Frightening to think about these generations of kids who become a part of the menace.

The human brain is not fully developed before 25. They are never going to experience being human lol.

Though shit but still hardly their individual fault, the parents and society is more at fault.