This is a story how freelancing/working online for someone can fuck you up. Even if the person is a millionare and your "friend".
A guy (who I considered a friend), the same person who scammed me, who after all failed attempts to find a job offered me one to freelance for him (work on the website as "analyst/tester" and work on filling up the inventory with Excel. I accepted the job and did my absolute best to learn everything in which he generously aided me. It took me a couple of days to figure how everything about website csv inventory worked before I was assigned projects to complete. Once again, I did my absolute best in period of two weeks to complete all projects on time. I hadn't slept one period for a couple of days as I was rushing to help him release his website earlier than scheduled. Besides all other website testing and tips to improve it I gave him, the initial projects were about filling up the website inventory. I was promised 0.10$ per item. I finished several documents of 27k lines(items) (Means he had 27k items ready to be added to website) . This equals to a bit more than 2700 USD. Everything went smooth, he loved the work and which you'll see in screenshots, said everything was fine. Immediately me offered another document that's double the lines (this would mean another ~5000 USD) but I insisted that we settled the payment first. He suggested Paypal. After several weeks of reading his excuses (such as, his wife forgot to plug in the power in his office, his accountant does it on specific days of the month, "he forgot me", his Paypal is broken...and so on and on...) it came to a point where he ran out of excuses, so he's simply ignoring my messages. I haven't slept properly for a week now knowing my future changed in a blink.There is a lot more to it but I'll let you judge on this.
I couldn't finish the entire text in Jow Forums, but the reason is simple. He often hires freelancers (so he says) hence you should avoid him and not repeat the same mistake I did.
Jack Wilson
Small claims, if you have documentation it should be easy
Luis Rivera
This.
Camden Powell
Take this 2 Judge Judy
Oliver Martin
Wait a second, do we have to get the courts involved? Are the opinions of an anonymous Lithuanian spellcasting board not legally binding?
Zachary Gutierrez
What a fat, ugly blob that guy is, you better kick his ass IRL if not you are a total pussy
Hunter Taylor
Fuck off code monkey your work is worth $50 max
Julian Hill
Do you have access to his website or whatever it is? My friend had a similar problem that his customer didn't pay for 3 months. Then he put a blinking banner on the website saying "This guy doesn't pay his bills". He got the money on the same day. I have another example where an automation company thought they were underpaid - they literally stopped heating a large building during winter and there were below 0C degrees inside causing permanent damage to piping etc. tl;dr: since he's being a douche find a way to push his buttons without causing too much damage. He will say you're an asshole or whatever, but you really know what's up.
Kevin Russell
Small claims court. You don't need a lawyer, but he probably would. 10k, if you live in a different state, he's required to be present in that state you filed, maybe 10k more. If you have documentation that is solid, small claims court loves that, you can max out 10-20k depending on the state laws. Dyor but I've used it numerous times, with no lawyer. Won everything Everytime.
Andrew Roberts
Doubtful, otherwise that is an incompatent facilities manager who can use Siemens bms right.
Nathaniel Long
Looking at the images, it seems OP is Croatian, I assume there's more documentation than the facebook images posted though
Elijah Howard
that would be a sweet gig going out and getting desperate fucks to do your work then not paying them. The only thing I'd ever be afraid of is one of them showing up and killing me in the middle of the night.
John Taylor
OP lives in Croatia, so it's possible: >Travel to the states, cross a state line >Buy a tazer >Rent a car and stake out his house to establish the timing of some habits >Walk up and taze him when he's opening his door and is likely to be alone >Push into house, tie up, rob the house of any minor items like jewlery or other valuable objects that would fit in a shipping box, waterboard him in the bathtub to give up his codes and buy bitcoin with as much of his money as you can >Put bags of loot in car, repackage into various transportation boxes, and send it to a few cash pre-paid PO-boxes in Croatia/home country with premium DHL shipping >Cross back over state line >Get on plane, go back home >Retrieve loot, transfer bitcoin into various accounts, sell separately and deposit into your real money account over a few months or more (depending on how much he's good for, if he's a millionarie obviously it seems suspicious if you lived in squalor and suddenly pulled out millions) >Claim that it's bitcoin earnings, tax for it if needed Problem?
Alternatively, he could Boston brake his car (cut the brake lines) in the evening, follow him, wait until he slides into something because he can't stop, and then get out and blow his brains out to be sure the job's done. But then he doesn't get the satisfaction of robbing the guy back (since he has to flee immediately), and he's already probably too poor to travel like that without getting paid at the end of it. Also, it's kind of overkill just for some guy that stole from you.
This is a good way to waste someone's time or get them to fork up what they owe you to get out of having to go to court, but the court has no way to actually enforce the payment. The guy could simply continue to not pay and trust me, no one will come knocking on his door for it.
This generally works best with legitimate companies who wind up having to send a lawyer to court which inevitably is going to cost way more $ than just paying you, and so they typically will give you what you want to avoid all of that (though they'll try to weasel a "deal" first).
Isaiah Nelson
I think 10c a line is a what a tax paying citizen would be paid.... $25 a day max for a third worlder.
Chase Parker
I had this happen on a couple of freelance gigs.
They drop a request for some work but want to see some progress up front, a demo, or a prototype
You do the work for free (along with who knows how many others) and then they disappear
Bottom line is never do anything for free. Zero.
That also goes for "contests"
Dylan Brown
>I don't understand why you are posting this
revenge?
Julian Reed
Hope he pays you OP. That's a shame that people conduct business this way.
Camden Hall
Update: He blocked me from all his Facebook pages and took some of his advertisements down. I've also left a polite message for his wife explaining what her husband did, saying I wish his mom was alive to see what his son had become, and this is what she replied i.imgur.com/JVETIBz.png
Jordan Collins
Yes
Easton Peterson
You fucking retard, you didn't got a contract?
Nathaniel Fisher
I've attached his information to this update post.
Work under contract. You both being in 2 different countries makes a contract mean less, but: Get money first. Or at least SOME money, call it a deposit.
Cameron Scott
And no, I didn't get a contract. I considered him a friend and I still live in a world where man's word means shit.
Carter Gutierrez
this is why we need smart contracts
BUY LINK 1000 EOY
Oliver Cruz
>I still live in a world where man's word means shit.
You deserve to get burned, learn a lesson.
Christian Clark
Nice blog, faggot.
Jayden Robinson
Pussy. Find him and beat it out of him. It’s simple. Or get revenge and find a way to scam him.
Daniel Gomez
Serves you right
Now go back to India or reddit
Easton Phillips
Not your personal army. Take him to court if you think you have a case. Handshake agreements can actually be binding depending on the situation. If anything you learn a lesson. Also, contacting his wife is fucking retarded and any further communication could be perceived as a threat.
Jace Parker
what's his gmail?
Isaiah Perry
Be happy you learned your lesson on something as little as $2.7k
Now do your best to make him pay, e.g. put up his name on the internet with all his personal details so that anyone who searches his name, it will come up on Google. Show the world he's a scammer. Utilize sites like pastebin ..etc.
I do have one other piece of advice, if you want some real revenge...
When he starts to accept paypal payments on his site, get a credit card that you wouldn't mind being blacklisted (e.g. from a new bank, or your friends credit card), use it to make as many $1 payments as you can. And then go to your bank and say you didn't make these payments. PayPal will hit him with a $25 chargeback fee PER TRANSACTION. So if you do 100x$1, then that's $2500. You'll also get your 100x$1 back.
Camden Baker
Also delete this, you're just asking for them to come after you for harassment. You're an idiot.
Oliver Clark
Our countries are far, far away. He's from USA, Alabama, Madison and I'm from Croatia. There is no option that I actually take him to court but I've reported him to local authorities.
Jayden Torres
Don't listen to these vagina's.
Lucas James
Why are you posting this on an Eastern Caribean Basketweaving board?
Christian Morales
You fucking idiot you can now be held liable for the actions of any vigilante anons.
Jaxson Foster
Obviously he’s a scammer... look at his stupid fucking face. He’s even bragging he had a 129 facebook Iq test.
I think you will find he is a professional scam artist with at least 15 years experience. One of his profiles list him as being Cherokee yet his supposed degree is from Jaipur... He claims to have been at High School in Alabama. If you are 25% Cherokee there are all sorts of college scholarships for Native Americans you are eligible for. You get a free American college degree, he is claiming an indian college degree.
James Hall
Sorry op. you fucked up by making this thread. The best you can do now is wait, let everything cool off for a year or so, Than burn down his house but make it look like insurance fraud so he gets nailed. Or something similure. Getting a proper sociopath worthy revenge takes patience. Take him to court first, though, if you can.
Nolan King
>OP is a poor AF croatian
When I first saw the thread I thought you were retarded for trusting a 'multi millionaire' but because your poor brainlet I feel bad for you user. I'll give him a call once a while, although I think he's disconnected his phone number already, his FB and LinkedIn pages are gone.
If you make threads once every few days with whatever updated contact information you can find I will pester him untill he pays you what he promised.
t. Eurobro
Luis Barnes
lmao, retard probably googled "Indian college" to supplement his Cherokee story
Eli Collins
you (youed) the the wrong guy. I still say he should find somone to burn his house down. Hes in croatia so no biggy.
Oh haha, OP just think of the bright side, at least you don't have a wife like that.
Joseph Thompson
dear lord, his wife sounds like as big an asshole as he is, they seem good for each other
Easton Edwards
kill his wife to free up his cashflow
Luis Foster
serious answer if you have managed to trawl any of his personal information just from his business stubs and receipts you can always put it on the darkweb and get his identify stolen
Bentley Wilson
Kill yourself
Caleb Turner
Kek I forget how useful a taser is. That mixed with waterboarding, damn. Yeah
Noah Perez
Rofl what a fucking cunt man.
Justin Long
>spend 2000$ trying to get 2700$ with a big risk of failure, law enforcment problems. Yeah
Caleb Nelson
well how do you think he became a millionaire in the first place? hint, it wasnt by paying people.
Carson Johnson
Do you have a contract with him ? Any sort of proof where he agreed to pay you?
Christian Edwards
Same. Geez, OP. This guy is taking myspace angled selfies wearing sunglasses inside. This isnt the type of person anyone should trust.
Even look at his facebook page. He was begging for people to give him $5k so he can run a 'camp for nerds'. Despite that, he doesnt really look like he as millions. His site doesnt even have any traffic at all. Like literally no traffic, no one goes to it.
OP, answer this question honestly. Did you actually do the work, or did you automate it?
Nicholas Mitchell
La creatura........
Jackson Reyes
answer this op
wrong way. you need to write these out in the forum posts so that they are SEO-friendly and google can pick up the keywords
op in croatia and the fat pig in us. nothing will ever happen because of it.
Jordan Davis
lool if you answer this OP you'll get your own personal army
Carson Carter
u are a little bitch.
i read ur stupid text and ur "friend" ian is a fat slob.
u could just drive to his home and talk to him.. but instead u create retarded posts on an image board and reddit because of !!!2600!!! dollars.
grow up u retarded pos. people did much much worse things to me.
Charles Russell
I did everything by hand. From inventory to website testing. I still have documents of that work of how I wrote everything in tags in a txt document. Which is why I am emotionally attached to all of it seeing my hard work and mental health going shit.
Jose Collins
he lives overseas. calm down faggot
Brayden Reed
kek.
op how do you know hes rich? i highly doubt it. looks like lowest tier of society
Holy shit that's actually genius. And you can easily do it more than once with no repercussions.
Lincoln Reyes
Sorry OP but this shit is rife in freelancing markets. I know a bunch of people that have had similar types of experiences. Always try and get a milestone payment after a certain amount of work the first time you work for someone.
Lucas Sullivan
Go to 8ch's /baphomet/.They will gladly help especially since you were sinsere and wasn't wrong in any way.
Alexander Foster
>129 >on a test that boosts your results >bragging Obviously not 129.
Noah Bailey
>Claims to have millions of dollars >can't afford hair plugs
Lmao this dude literally doesn't have your money, OP.
not your personal army etc etc.
Freelancing is choosing the person who pays you, so choose wisely folks.
Alexander Morgan
I've done some freelance work, OP. My advice to you is only work for westerners. Preferably Americans. Brits, Germans, the French. Be very cautious around Eastern Europeans and Mediterraneans. And never ever work with chinks. Funny thing is, same applies to crypto. Never ever buy chink coins ever.
Dylan Bennett
ITT linking to imgur on an image board
Josiah Martin
Not your personal army, faggot.
Jayden Bell
Die annoying fake retard namefag
Ayden Morales
Sorry but that face and facial hair don’t look one bit trustworthy lmao
Carter Gray
lol
Adam Adams
>i.imgur.com/JVETIBz.png >You don't me. LOL, you can feel the frustration from here. she meant to say you don't know me.