Capitalists will defend this

imagine being so retarded that you admit you've been brainwashed

OP DONT ATTAKCK CAPITALISHUM IT IS A VERY GOOD SYSYEM IF YOU DISAGREE YOU ARE A GOMMIE SCUM

Don't forget, kids. Creating false needs is actually a good thing. Say it with me: it is a good thing. You don't wanna be a communist right? Good... don't criticze papa capitalism again okay?

>everyone told me to jump off a bridge
>I did it
>brainwashing

Holy shit look at this a-ma-zing rebuttal on critique of capitalism. Live in the woods! Wow! Genius!

Consumerism is the logical outgrowth of capitalism- creating new plastic shit so your advertising men brainwash the public to buying so you keep the hamster wheel of infinite economic growth spinning. It’s why we have planned obsolescence and shit designed to break.

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>advertising has no effect on people

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>manipulating people through PR to buy stuff they don't need
PR was invented by Edward Bernays, the nephew of Sigmund Freud. PR is literally the science of manipulation so consumers buy products.

>sent from my iPhone X on Verizon's Fastest LTE network

I bet you're white and come from middle/upper middle class.

Wow amazing counterargument

who gives a shit. the goal is to get rich, then you literally don't care what other people do, because you have free reign of the entire planet.

>planned obsolescence
People don't want use fucking Nokia 3310 for the rest of their life changing batteries? I literally can't even.

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The argument is you're being a cringey edgelord trying to rage against capitalism, while benefiting from it like the rest of us. You'll grow out of it kiddo.

You didn't present an argument in the first place, you retarded raiding nigger.

>commies actually believe the state controlled central banker economy we currently live under is "capitalism"

How do we kill them all bros?

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>muh needs
Your needs are already addressed. Go toss your computer out the window and live in a monastery if you want to be an ascetic.

But you bought that "Fuck capitalism!" t-shirt on eBay, didn't you?

Capitalism will literally never die.
Please kys already.

there's not a difference anymore. nowadays "needs" are just the essentials for continuing to live, should you desire to do so

Who gives a shit?
Plastic shit can be fun as fuck.
It's your fault you're a loser.

the only reason you are capable of shitposting your infantile opinions right now is because of capitalism

quit crying you stupid commie faggot

>Creating false needs is actually a good thing.
Value is subjective you self hating brainlet.
There certainly are things people didn't know they want because they haven't been created yet. New movies get created all of the time by corporations and people keep seeing them because they get pleasure from watching them.
Nothing wrong with this.
What a terrible fucking argument.
You people need to die.

When are we going to gas all of these commies bros?

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>implying I said advertising has no effect on people
I'm telling you to stop playing the victim. The only person who has the responsibility of making your decisions is you. Ride a bike and shop at value village.

>critique of capitalism
You’re always welcome to join gulag and stand in the breadlines as a follow up to your political retardation, faggot. It’s funny that the only thing communist brainlets can complain about capitalism is the abundance of everything.

You can also still buy durable items meant to last decade, often meant to outlive you if you so choose. Commies can't handle the idea of personal choice though, they'd rather force everyone to be struggling to get food than see people "wasting" money on things they deem unnecessary. Pretty ridiculous really, the fact that we have so much excess that we don't have to even worry about needs should be an obvious positive.

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iShit designed to break after 3 years. Thank you BASED consumerism

>i can't think for myself so i copy+paste all my opinions from adam curtis documentaries
lmao brainlet cope

>Pretty ridiculous really, the fact that we have so much excess that we don't have to even worry about needs should be an obvious positive.
THIS
When I debate with commies at most they can bring up food waste, which is hilarious.
Capitalism produces so much food that consumers just throw out what they don't want.

>posting ancap memes
fucking kys

>PR was invented by Edward Bernays, the nephew of Sigmund Freud. PR is literally the science of manipulation so consumers buy products.
This doesn't mean it's some crazy magic spell that makes everyone buy products.
I hear ads all of the fucking time, I don't buy everything they tell me.
Man, you're a brainlet.

Communists don't belong on Jow Forums, leave and go back to your safe space on Jow Forums

yes and yes

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Gas yourself desu

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>I'm better off without the internet
then stop posting you enormous faggot, go microwave your network card so we don't have to read your shitty opinions anymore

>break after 3 years
t. brainlet

If that was true you couldn't buy a very first iPhone released in 2007 and still use it as a music player.

Im ok with capitalism, Im against consumerism. Capitalism is human nature, consumerism is social engineering.

>iShit designed to break after 3 years.
That's why people buy android phones.
I've had the same droid phone for 3 years, I've dropped it a million times and it still works fine and the screen isn't cracked.
Thank you BASED market competition.

>if you criticize capitalism you’re a communist

We need to ban Americans t bh

Honestly, the whole reason we have such a consumerist culture is central banking and keynesianism.
They think the economy is a car engine that needs to be "stimulated".

>i hate capitalists but i'm not a communist
>GRRRR STOP CALLING ME A COMMUNIST OR I'LL GET TRIGGERED
nobody cares about what you call your special snowflake third positionist ideology, you are functionally equivalent to a communist so you will be called as such

Lmao coping berniefag. Start off with paying your college debt, you mentally retarded subhuman.

>burgers so brainwashed that they defend the ultimate kikery just because capitalism is a word that conveys THE GOOD in their mcfat clogged heads

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crypto is readying society for full communism, you'd understand if you weren't dense

lol cute

>capitalism is bad because Jow Forums told me so!
nice poorfag cope

>everything that’s not my special version of Real Capitalism (TM) is communism
>there is no functional difference between an absolute monarchy, Nazi germany, the Soviet Union, or a social democracy

HUGE hmmmmmmmmmm

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>crypto is readying society for full communism,

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>faggot so angry at a shelf fully stacked with products made by different manufacturers, he had to make a post about his demented opinion on Jow Forums

>You're with me or a commie!!!
A simple indication of low IQ (or mutt) are the polarization of ideas. People cannot fire their synapses fast enough to fathom there might be more than two options of any given selection

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>crypto is readying society for full communism
I wonder what would a secret police commissar do to your virgin ass if crypto was a thing when the Soviet bloc was still on the map.

To "expand the desires" of the consumer would also be the goal of any socialist bureaucrat who wants higher.
In any situation where man comes into contact with man, there is incentive for one to try to make the other desire something from him.
I am not saying that this is good (though it's not itself bad), but it is misguided to consider this a problem of the private ownership of capital.

>two options
>let the government handle "basic needs" for you and ban everything they see excessive and unnecessary

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I’ve spent the past couple years trying to force myself back to living a needs based life. It is the only way to become wealthy on a middle class income.

Present an alternative other than, "buying things that are unnecessary is bad" because so far that has been the only anti-capitalist position taken in this thread.

>25
>no debt
>easy 6 figure job and net worth
>fiance finishing med school as a surgeon
>still commie
maybe i just have empathy for those with less than me, like you

poorfag cope

Jow Forums is an ancap board. Go back to reggit lite (aka Jow Forums) where you can get butthurt about capitalism all you like.

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>a technology that promotes private transactions is readying people for anything but ancap
the absolute state of coping marxlets

t.Ancap.

user, I don't defend it. I don't deny it. But I think you're full of shit if you think consumer culture is new - go read & fucking Seneca 2000 years ago complaining about soiboi faggots obsessed with fashion and haircuts, people spending too much time sunbathing and shopping etc. It's never been any different, technology just improved.

Communists try to smash humans into the shape they want. Doesn't work that way. That's why it ALWAYS fucks up. You know how you know I'm right? The biggest issue facing poor people in our society isn't starvation - it's fuck obesity.

>finishing med school
>supposedly has time to shitpost about capitalism on the cryptocurrency trading section of a Kazakhstani fly-fishing BBS
lmao imagine lying like this to win a political debate

Very sad!

You don’t have to LARP that hard to make it less obvious that you’re just a sophomore liberal arts faggot living in your mom’s basement.

Post your portfolio ;^)

poorfag COPE

>The biggest issue facing poor people in our society isn't starvation - it's fuck obesity

thats bc corporations & banks are redlining grocery stores, leaving the poor in food deserts with only convenience stores & fast food to live off of

I think your pic says it all user.

Cmon tough guy I want to see your huge gains ;^) You Sound like an Econ master

>who wants higher.
who wants higher recognition, more resources at his disposal or an elevated position of power.
My apologies.

>your face when people use multiple ingredients in one meal

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i'm not going to spoonfed a coping Jow Forumsfag marxist into prosperity.

sorry but you can stay coping on an anonymous imageboard and larping as a med student, it's more entertaining to me than helping you.

>a federal reserve that manipulates fiat
>capitalism providing no answer to the needs of sick poor people (No I'm not defending minorities, but poor whites)
>outsourcing of work to the third world
>mass migration needed to partake in low skill labour

I'm not sure how many points you want to contend. There are many logical arguments against unfiltered capitalism

>literally too stupid to read ID’s
>ancap

Oh god it’s retarded

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how else to know which shitcoin to blow my money on
lol i fucking wish i could go back to those days

Is this how you cope with being poor?

>leaving the poor in food deserts with only convenience stores & fast food to live off of
This simply isn't the case.
I sustain myself on a far cheaper diet than these "poor" people you speak about (spending far more on food than the vast majority of any humans to ever exist on this planet) and my diet is extremely healthy.
Even if the only food available to eat were of low quality, this does not make you fat. Eating too much of it makes you fat. Nobody is too poor to not afford to pay to put down their fork. People are just weak, will-less and nihilistic.

No, but you have to remember most people are not nearly as smart as the people you talk to on this board. Most people cannot figure out that they are manipulated daily into making terrible financial decisions because no one ever taught them better. You might not care, but when enough people make terrible financial decisions it has wide ranging repercussions. The public education system in the US makes literal debt slaves. They removed Home economics and trades classes from lots of schools, so now those people never learned how to be self reliant and have to consume those services. They are also never taught basic financial management so they make terrible financial decisions. It’s sad and pathetic but it’s the way it is and it’s up to people like us to change it

You’re literally too stupid to read unique poster IDs on Jow Forums lmao

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cope

>unfiltered capitalism
>federal reserve

imagine subscribing to communism because you feel guilty of being superior to the brainlets who aren't well off.
god how pathetic

>muh REAL capitalism!!!!

You guys are as bad as commies

Yeah, they should really leave them hungry and foodless in an actual desert like Mao or Stalin or every other communist did in history. You've proved my own damn point kek.

Look - it's been tried ok? It's been tried SO many times. It doesn't work. Capitalism works - even the current shitty system of quasi - feudal oligarchy works better than communism. Even all our shitty memecoins, we fucking did that without a bunch of state control - what does that tell you? We're closer to ending the banks than you ever were, without needing to fire a shot or open a gulag. Because we give people what they want or need, and the freedom to do it, even if they fuck it up. You fucks just try to make everyone equally miserable, before your own despotic tendencies take over and you start purging dissidents.

Is this a bot?

>be butthurt because people make more money than you
>disguise your resentment under "hating consumerism"
laughing at you coping communists

>closer to ending the banks
>Soros, Goldman etc all getting into crypto

whats the alternative? losing solidarity with the suffering of your fellow man? no thanks

>you either follow my special snowflake ideoglogy or you’re a communist

This is literally a logical fallacy. Do you understand what I mean by that?

you don't make more money than me

What are you on about?
Speak in something other than a series of platitudes and buzzwords. Something does not become another thing just because you say "muh REAL thing".
You may make the argument that a capitalist system generally leads to a central bank (I disagree), but you may not make the argument that (this word is important) unfettered capitalism has central banks. It is literally a contradiction in terms.
The existence of a central bank controlling a fiat supply of money means that there is no capitalistic stateless market system of banking.

Your argument is, without exaggeration, literally the same as responding to "a shape with four sides is not a triangle" with "muh REAL triangles".

My man

teaching them to fish rather than restructuring society around their mediocrity

Yes, I do, you make nothing, you're a med student without a license. Your income in 2017 was likely 0.

So how do you define unfettered capitalism? Ancap?

cuba seems to be doing fine, sankara did a pretty good job in his short time
i don't have much to say if you think crypto is ending the banks, seems like the biggest cope of all