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meant to seems I can't do anything right бpб я yбью ceбя
Evan Young
I've thought about learning German. Is the grammar really as bad as people say it is?
Josiah Walker
I'm a month into Greek, what are some basic ass children's books I can read? Unrelated, but I can struggle through reading basic things other people wrote, while trying to actually write things makes me feel like my brain is empty
Anyone tried any apps for conjugations in Spanish?
Tyler Hughes
пoкa!
Hunter Long
It's a bit difficult but very consistent. In my opinion it's what makes the language interesting anyway
Adam Taylor
Realistically if I started right now and went overdrive every day how much Turkish could I learn before the end of October? I would use it for one weekend and then possibly never again. However, I am a big Ottoman history buff so I wouldn't have any problem with motivation.
Any tips for expanding vocab on a language? I'm learning German and it's not even grammar that's got me worried, it's the vocab. I can learn grammar just fine, because you can easily find grammar rules for things, and there's only so many grammar rules that any given language can have.
But for vocab I don't really know what to do other than something super inefficient like looking up every word I can think of. I guess my biggest problem is since I'm just starting out, there are several thousand words that I don't know, and I just don't know where to start or how to efficiently learn.
Hudson Anderson
If you were really in overdrive you would've already started. You wouldn't be asking that here.
Jose Howard
No. German is extremely reliable/"constant"/consistent, which is basically the opposite of the shitfest that's called "the English language".
Blake Lewis
more people should join the discord
Justin Morgan
I think you misunderstand me. I've spent the past year and a half learning French and I have put that aside since about a week ago to start Spanish. Originally my goal was to be able to speak French and Spanish by the end of college. However, I now may have the opportunity to use Turkish if only for a short period of time. I had always been interested in learning Turkish but never had any reason to. I'm trying to decide if I should put Spanish on hold for several months to get to an introductory level in a non-Indo-European language. In the same time I could probably get pretty good at Spanish with my experience learning French and my previous knowledge of the language.
Anki, word frequency lists, and watching/reading/listening to stuff in the target language.
Grayson Evans
Little Prince
Cameron Hill
Is there a dictionary that has stress for Russian words listed?
Carter Walker
I usually use cooljugator and wiktionary
Nolan Butler
These seem to be what I'm looking for, thanks. Just wondering, is there any reason you use both and not just one?
Asher Thomas
>I'm trying to decide if I should put Spanish on hold for several months to get to an introductory level in a non-Indo-European language.
I believe it's worth it. But if you do so, maybe you can convert your studying into another activity that will keep you in contact with Spanish.
Noah King
I said both because cooljugator reads any tense and you can input English words Wiktionary gives more explanation and meaning but you must input the word with cyrillic and sometimes the conjugations and inflection of words might not appear on wiktionary, specially with smaller languages
Alexander Parker
Ah, sounds like I can just stick to one for now, then.
Jaxson Wood
Thanks for this picture.
I'm disappointed that there isn't a word for "those" in French.
Isaiah Diaz
ceux
Isaiah Bailey
Oh.
M-merci.
Gabriel Hall
well, ceux and celles ceux-ci and celles-ci for these (close) ceux-là and celles-là for those (far)
Nolan Turner
t'es l'australien qui chie avec nous dans /fr/ ouais ?
Jacob James
Aah. I see; thank a lot. Oui! Je viendrai maintenant!
Jeremiah Perry
No problem! It will take a while probably but you'll do well. the guys in /fr/ get a lot nicer once you convince them you know how to speak the language. When did you start learning
Gavin Parker
I've been visiting /FR/ a lot more recently. I used to be on /ausnz/ everyday for like 2 years when I was a gay-erper and did some regrettable stuff.
I'm happier that I've gotten sense to continue learning and talking with foreigners. I've been doing Duolingo for a whole year but Uni studies have hindered that so talking with /fr/ and guys like you help make up for it. When did you start learning?
about a year and a half ago. I started with duolingo but moved on to memories to start making real progress. When I finished all the French courses on memories I bought Assimil le Francis en pratique which is a textbook that comes with CDs. It worked really well once I had a solid base down. If you don't have a memories account I definitely recommend it. memrise.com/home/
Jack James
Hey /lang/ Should I learn german or dutch? Which language is more useful? And which one will help me get a qt3.14 gf?
What's the best website for language swapping? I'd be happy to teach some people my horrible Boston accent in exchange for something else.
Landon Scott
German >And which one will help me get a qt3.14 gf? Neither, try not being mentally 11 years old
Aiden Watson
i just made an account then cause I remember using this site but don't remember the old account.
Merci user. German desu. I forgot the name but Langfocus talks about it a lot at the end of his vids.
Gabriel Campbell
Not as bad as Arabic grammar
Oliver Hill
>Some consonants let your voice come out immediately (voiced) while others wait for the release of the consonant and only then let your voice escape (unvoiced). In Russian there are 6 pairs of such consonants: Б/П, B/Ф, Г/К, Д/T, Ж/Ш, З/C.
whenever one of these consonants (except B) follows another, the second overrides or reverses the voicing of the first: cд = [зд], вc= [фc] the end of the phrase is unvoiced: этoт клyб [клyп] rules apply between the word boundaries, too Х, Ч, Ц, Щ also play this game, even though Russian lacks letters for their voiced partners ([ɣ], [дж'], [дз], [ж'ж']). They will devoice the preceding consonant or become voiced themselves.
I mean, I get it, but what the fuck
Jonathan Jones
Okay I have a question regarding voicing, why would "aпeльcин" need the ь if e already denotes the л as palatalized?
Asher Phillips
Oh it's the п that gets palatalized not the the л
Brody Ramirez
>whenever one of these consonants (except B) follows another, the second overrides or reverses the voicing of the first: cд = [зд], вc= [фc] >the end of the phrase is unvoiced: этoт клyб [клyп]
these are pretty common among various languages actually german has them too
Logan Moore
Wait what, I know b/g/d/probably something else I forgot changes at the end of words but not the rest. Can you give me an example? I've been learning German for years and didn't hear about this
Tyler Ramirez
>mfw nobody else cares about Dutch fug
Nathaniel Russell
>/fr/ What a pile of trash, but I guess a gay ERPer wouldn't be able to tell anyway.
Aaron Howard
b, d, g, s and v are the letters that are almost pronounced unvoiced when they're at the end of a word. these are all the letters that have have voiced/unvoiced pairs, so obviously >but not the rest devoicing doesn't happen with l or n or m since they can't be devoiced.
Chase Torres
>almost
*always
Jordan Jenkins
Doesn't b just turn into p, d into t, and g into k unless preceded by i?
Bentley Foster
yes that's called devoicing
Nathaniel Carter
I still could tell the difference between it and eat.
volunteers who agreed to make a course >for free - it's the same shit as with reddit moderators: powerhungry NEETs with a drive to push an agenda
Nathan Baker
I'm having trouble pronouncing "très" in French. How do I do it?
Jordan Parker
This. I don't know what other courses are like but this one is full of such sentences.
James King
In my experience Swedish: "He loves a man" or something similar, the borders are open, it's raining men. These aren't really too bad German: A million "my neighbor is turkish" + women change the world Russian: Nothing weird yet
>esperanto course >"he kissed her" >full of people saying "WHAT ABOUT HOMOS????" in comments for that sentence
Juan Wilson
Sounds like trolls. I don't really care if it includes gay things but once you start going "WOMYN R STRONK N POWERFUL XD" you can fuck right off.
Jack Ward
Esperanto is for soyboys. It's to be expected. Also >I cry and think of sad things >I feel like I have no friends
Andrew Sanchez
im learning french right now. I just print news articles and read them. highlight words/phrases i dont know and make anki set with them later. since its written formal french, it only helps me build a certain part of vocabulary but its still helpful
Christian Davis
Reasons for learning a language power rankings
God tier: because you want/it's interesting (and not going to give up after a week) or just enjoyment from using it High tier: interest in the actual mechanics of the language but don't really plan to learn it past understanding grammar Mid tier: just a fun hobby you don't really take seriously Low tier: muh heritage Shit tier: learning Japanese for anime, manga etc (if you actually got to a B2 or higher level exclude yourself from this) Unrionically kill yourself tier: impressing girls
I'll take those (You)s to go
Henry Stewart
>because I want/it's interesting (and or just enjoyment from using it) but >it's a fun hobby I don't really take seriously Where do I stand?
Angel Bailey
One amendment: God tier: serious, concrete plans to live in a country that speaks your target language (if the country is Japan refer to shit tier)
Ian Perry
I see you in here in enough that I'd say you take it seriously. Not taking it seriously is just occasionally doing duolingo/half-assing a class on the language and not really doing much else with it
Elijah Powell
Assuming you're the one learning Dutch anyway
Cameron Wilson
Yes, true, but I'm not sure if I am going to keep studying it for long enough to achieve fluency, nor do I plan to live in the Netherlands. On one hand I feel like I'm seriously learning, and on the other, I'm not sure what defines seriousness.
Evan Gutierrez
I want to learn Korean. I can read hangul, but that's about it. I'm gonna take classes next January - should I wait until then? I'm running into paywalls because Korean doesn't have a lot of free resources vs. something like Japanese.
Well it's one of the best countries in the world in my opinion and you already have EU citizenship iirc. Would be my top choice to move to if I wasn't a manlet by Dutch standards
The problem is that I'm a manlet even for Romanian standards. And yes I do but I don't want to be treated like a subhuman.
Mason Stewart
Nothing really wrong with that You won't be treated like a subhuman (everyone is too busy being pissed at Moroccans anyway) but even at 173cm and among tourists in Amsterdam I felt like a manlet
William Fisher
we can go beyond tier: doing it for daddy
Isaac Kelly
*beyond shit tier
Nicholas Brown
Thank you 친구
Thomas Sanchez
NO
There are some, TTIK, lingodeer like the other user said but also Howtolearnkorean.com and Naver dictionnary.
Joshua Bell
>all my friends are bilingual >one guy speaks Egyptian arabic b/c arabic >one guy speaks French b/c he's rich and was in french immersion >one guy speaks Spanish b/c mixed race >i'm the only monolingual brainlet
anyone else like this? and yes they're all american
Alexander Lewis
I'm the only bilingual of my friends.
Michael Campbell
i guess that's normal in a country that's not diverse
why did you decide to learn english?
Jace Gonzalez
yes, and it makes me want to kill myself
Brandon Bennett
words that you tend to mix up >respect pagarba >luxury prabanga >promise pažadas
>road kelias >hard kietas >several keli >weird keistas
Brody Brooks
>why did you decide to learn english? user, English is a mandatory school subject in probably 95% of countries in the world. You don't decide to learn it.
Andrew Flores
Pokemon Emerald, that started everything. Then Puffy Ami Yumi show got me interested into Japanese music, but also they had English songs which I used to listen to. From there I pretty much watched DVDs in their original languages and finally entered to a language school. Took me 18 months to get to an advanced level, consequently it was just a matter of practice, when I finally went to Canada I realized that I was really fluent at speaking and writing, but English alone isn't enough, now I'm studying Japanese (because I really like Japanese music) and I would like to learn Russian (only know Cyrrilic and baby grammar). Man, you have to start learning languages from a very early age.
William Cox
is there not a spanish translation for pokemon emerald? i heard the early spanish translations were horrible, but still
Parker Reyes
If that was true in his country, his friends would know English too. Pay attention polska
Ryder Lee
>(at) here burada >(from) here buradan >(towards) here buraya
I figured that, but I refuse to accept the possibility of Mexican schools not teaching English. Why? It makes more sense to not teach English in Europe than in a country bordering USA
Michael Wright
third language (french/spanish/german) is mandatory here too, but retarded normalfags are too dumb to figure it out
Kayden Williams
Mexico is poor compared to Europe, poorer than Slavic countries in some regions. Mexico is also huge. Europeans need to know English to have a common language, but many Mexicans can live their whole lives only communicating with other Spanish speakers.
That's really interesting that a video game caused you to learn English. Pokemon was a big part of my childhood too. Japanese is one of the languages with the most resources - there are plenty of weebs on /jp/ who became fluent through self-study. I think you have an advantage since you started learning as a kid. Sometimes I worry my brain isn't capable of handling it. I feel borderline retarded trying to remember Korean.
Kayden Wright
When I bought Emerald they didn't have Spanish versions left, but gave me the English version instead, never really got to play any Spanish version of it. It is mandatory but the difficulty level is just too low, and still a lot of people gets to hate it or thinks is too hard for them. So after highschool they completely forget about it. Teachers can be good but there's just no real interest here, specially now that you could just watch dubbed/subbed media easily.
John Allen
Translation challenge: The Lord of the Rings edition.
Easy: >I am old, Gandalf. >Night was cold. >The rain has ended. >At once, they went on again. > Well, I'm back.
Medium: >I wish the Ring had never come to me. >Someone else always has to carry on the story. >Death! Ride, ride to ruin and the world’s ending! >But in the end it's only a passing thing, this shadow; even darkness must pass. >There are locked doors and closed windows in your mind, and dark rooms behind them.
Hard: >When Mr. Bilbo Baggins of Bag End announced that he would shortly be celebrating his eleventy-first (111st) birthday with a party of special magnificence, there was much talk and excitement in Hobbiton. >Come not between the Nazgûl and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shrivelled mind be left naked to the Lidless Eye. >It is not despair, for despair is only for those who see the end beyond all doubt. We do not. It is wisdom to recognize necessity, when all other courses have been weighed, though as folly it may appear to those who cling to false hope.
