Say the EU actually disintegrates and this becomes the only supranational union on the continent. How does it go?

looks like slavic empire

replace Belarus and Ukraine with Slovenia and Croatia and I'm fine

can't see why

Belarus and Ukraine are poor and Russia-like

Slovenia and Croatia are Central European and rich

>>butthurt the union

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poor kid :/

the gas pipe lines would still go through the nordic countries and turkey would replace ukraine

>central european
>rich
haha u wish

>Say the EU actually disintegrates and this becomes the only supranational union on the continent. How does it go?

Nope, EU by 2050

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I applaud optimism in all its positive forms

Space of aids, the union

the only countries that hate each other there are Poland/Ukraine and Hungary/Romania
dumb memer

>How does it go
Very good at the begining, but later the others will realize that they have fucked up, because no Slovenia no fluorium, no serbia no uranium = no nukes, while Russia has got a lot of them.

>Königsberg
what how

oil deal magic

>How does it go?

Pretty badly because it has like 1/3 of the GDP of Germany.

it's shame, ukraine had a decentish gdp for the region until russian meddling, and that entire region combined still doesn't even have the gdp of NYC

I think we still have some.

I'm not even sure which all countries that is.

look at a map

The same way Yugoslavia did.

>the only countries that hate each other are the most important ones

Its also nice how OP painted Kaliningrad in order to pretend this problem will evaporate.

Yugoslavia was a single federal republic.
Anyway let's not destroy the EU nor NATO please, don't want to live in a police state with a defence budget of 10% GDP.

>Poland and Ukraine hate each other
Is that true? Never noticed it except when people talk about Wołyń. I don't think they are any other political conflicts of interest.

but my country is Europe

>a policestate with a defense budget of 10%
My inner prussian masturbates furiosly.

>defence budget of 10% GDP.
that's unironically not a bad thing

The idea is good from geopolitical point of view. But the pressure is too strong. V4 countries are dependent economically on Germany. Belarus/Ukraine/Baltic states are economically dependent on Russia. But the very idea of Pilsudskis prometheism that the USA wants to use for its benefit would be benefitial for the region just like creating vertical routes of trade, investments and military cooperation. Unification of these countries in terms of political priorities and economies is considered by both Moscow and Berlin as a deadly and critical danger for their interests. So this creation would need a lot of help from the USA. And even this doesnt guarantee a success.

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One thing is for sure: if countries of CEE fail to unite in some effective forms of cooperation, and stay divided and conflicted with each other, they all will be played around by empires one by one. CEE will be rather a shitty place to live in situation of geopolitical vacuum created by disintegration of NATO, imo. Countries of the region will be sucked dry even harder than they are now

>posted from site located in germany

Poland has to be economically independent from Germanistan, and that will soon happen. Krautniggers are slowly running low on funds.

Badly.

We hate everybody.

Our main geopolitical doctrine ULB (Giedroyc Doctrine) is directly opposed by Russia, while we have practically nothing to counterweight German Mitteleuropa project as we are part of it economically. All other countries of CEE are too weak to even think about independent geopolitics, they only try to balance now and use basic technique of "equal distance". Hungary is a good example, it now tries to develop equal distance to Berlin, Moscow, Brussels, Beijing, Warsaw. And it can't do anything more, it only tries to look for benefits from all sides as long as NATO fills the security needs of the region.

Poland has three geopolitical options for XXI century

First one is prometheism that was probably chosen by PiS. Making a major military power out of Poland connected with project of Three Seas Initiative and gradual persuading countries of CEE to investing in their own economical independence along with creating energetical and trade infrastructure from Black Sea to Baltic Sea going vertically, as opposed to horizontal infrastructure that benefits mainly Russia, Western Europe and China. This option is the hardest to do, many people in Poland think that it is impossible, but it is also option desired by the USA. This option puts us in direct conflict with Russia and Germany, which is also the most dangerous.

Second one is federationism. Poland is doing everything possible (including resignation from part of its own interests) to become a part of the first core of EU's integration, along with France and Germany in scheme of Weimar Triangle. This option is easier but also connected with higher costs in the future, as we completely lose independence and our territory could be turned in some kind of playground of Western Europe where they could send their retired to spend cheap vacations or where they could accomodate refugees or anything. To put it simply: Poland would stop existing.

Third one is disengagement. Poland would apply Hungary-tier doctrine of "equal distance" and try to benefit as much from its geographic location as possible, mainly in context of Chinese Silk Road and German-Russian trade, while resigning from independence at benefit on these three empires. Hard to predict result of such choice. We would lose major part of political independence, that's for sure, and Germany/Russia would try to force us to let them trade for free or almost free (some pennies they give to Czech Republic for transit of gas f.e.), while marginalizing our economy. So this option is easiest to do but also most costly

They already tried it hundreds of years ago and it failed.

Hundreds of years ago most of this land was basically Polish empire and yeah, it kinda failed indeed. One of reasons of our fail was that we didn't take a part in Age of Discovery like Western Europe (Rimland) so it switched us off from the modern system of capital/trade that was making these countries richer from XVI century while we stuck in primitive agrarian economy supplying these countries with grain. Second reason was that we were too sophisticated and pluralistic for our times. We tried to apply form of real democracy in XVIII century when our neighbours like Germany and Russia chose authoritarian militarized monarchies with a fast and effective decisive system. So they managed to bribe our political elite with using their corrupted democratic system and partition Poland without one shot fired. There is no independent Poland since partitions, except of short period 1918-1939 which ended with the biggest tragedy in our history, 30% population being butchered, and country turned into a pile of rubble. In XVIII-XX century we were just a part of Germany, Russia and Austria. After WW2 we were a satellite of Russia. And now we are a political bitch of the USA economically dependent on Germany.

I'd give it ONE month (at max) before it would collapse.

this image gave me a gag reflex

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Everything which is not critically interconnected economically must fail. Why is Poland so glued to Germany? That's because we earn money on producing stuff for their economy and we feed our families thanks to this. So Czech Republic, Poland, and Hungary would always choose Germany in the scenario of final choice - at least for now, when we have no alternative. But if all these countries managed to set themselves free from dictate of German capital by creating their own competetive economies exporting stuff all over the world not as proxies of German companies but as national companies, if Poles kept their money in Hungarian/Czech/Ukrainian/Lithuanian banks and all mentioned nations would keep their money in Polish banks, then this project would be naturally successful. But how to do this? Do even all countries of CEE want this? Maybe Czechs feel good while being a container for German sperm? Maybe Hungarians feel good while being a cheap producer of German cars taking some pennies from transit of Russian gas from South Stream? Maybe Ukrainians have bigger ambitions than being toilet cleaners of Poland? Maybe Lithuanians have bigger ambitions than being a part of Poland again?

In the end everything depends on who wins domination competition to take control over Arctic. It is "be or not to be" for Russia. In the list of priorities of Russian Federation, Arctic is number one. Neutralisation of Central-Eastern Europe - mainly with using non-military or quasi-military means like infowar - so it wouldn't unify itself against Russian interests is second most important priority. Poland with its USA-sponsored prometheism is the biggest pain in the Russian ass currently, but also in German/EU ass, to be honest. Third biggest Russian priority is Central Asia and competing with Chinese interests there.

If USA somehow managed to dwarf Russia in the Arctic region, this big shitty country of Putin and Dugin would probably disintegrate for good. But does the USA even want this? Probably not, because Russia's geography is crucial in containing China. Russia - despite official messages - is panically afraid of Silk Road because it would have a huge potential to make Russia implode: whole regions of Central Asia and Caucasus that Russia considers as its sphere of influence would glue themselves to China instead.

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For those uninformed: Arctic is so important not only because it probably contains 50% of earths gas and oil that would fuel Russian "economy" as long as humanity finds these resources useful (so probably next 50 years at least) but also because of ____Polar Silk Road____. Google it.