Why is there such a big difference between South East Asian countries?
I looked at them on google street view and I noticed there's a group of countries that look very well, infrastructure is decent, roads in good condition, neighborhoods look wealthy etc. - it includes Malaysia, Thailand, Sri Lanka, Indonesia; and there is a group of countries that look totally Africa-tier, everything is run down, just like one big slum, like the Philippines, Bangladesh, while Cambodia and Laos (the parts available on google street view) are somewhere in between.
I see that this doesn't have much to do with GDP per capita, because while Malaysia or Thailand are relatively well off, Sri Lanka or Indonesia are rather poor. Is it mentality? Colonial influence?
>Cambodia & Laos maybe became stable in 80s - 90s many mess happened in those country
>Reversed Poland Muh Island in here, Outside Java & Sumatra, Logistics are difficult. Even Dutch only focused on Java & Sumatra
Brody Gomez
yes, I would appreciate your contribution if you knew why it is like that
Jaxon Foster
A big reason why Vietnam is so different is because of extensive Polish influence. The Viets in Poland study the habits and skills Poles use (via extensive stalking), and relay it back to their mother country. I predict that within 20-25 years, Vietnam will look like an exact copy of Poland.
Nolan Fisher
>Sri Lanka
for me it is SE Asia and look like SE Asia
>Even Dutch only focused on Java & Sumatra
But Indonesia looks pretty decent overall so good for you if you could maintain this level despite having such issues with logistics.
I don't know anything about Vietnam because there's no street view in this country, sadly.
The Secret of Reversed Poland still Keep Alive are Informal Economy
Evan Cooper
I don't know much, since no SEA contribution ITT you should just find some documentaries of history of those countries and you will learn more
I think it's to do with history and also somewhat colonization depending on country of those countries more than any GDP or anything else
Brandon Gonzalez
Malaysia doesn't look like a poor country at all and it has relatively high GDP per capita too. I guess it's Chinese influence?
Pretty much all poor countries are based on informal economy, but some of them look better than each other. If I compare Ukraine with Indonesia, Indonesia looks like a wealthy, first world country.
Easton Evans
No
Wyatt Richardson
So it's English colonial influence and oil?
Jaxon Wood
>Wealthy Neighbourhoods Yeah, but it's not many in here, even still available in every major city. Majority Neighbourhood in here are Kampung & Perumahan. Low - Middle Class tier. Different Hood, Different Gangs hehehe No one or not many people in here want live in Commieblock tier, yet Gov't always build that and yet always empty
Levi Bailey
no. just poor. not even chinese influence. that's singapore.
Isaac Lewis
>Cambodia Pol Pot is high octane baby smashing on tree crazy. >Burma Literal dolphin blood bath junta dictator using fortune teller to determine new capital. >Laos French buffer state, per capital highest bombed country in history of man. >Vietnam Just opened up in the 90's, in sweatshop phase >Thailand Coups is favourite activity. >Philippines Marcos turned them from rising star slaying gommies to begging China for exploding dragunov copies. >Singapore Strategic location, small 1 party state and best equipped port of the empire, can't possibly mess this up. >Malaysia Soviet style 5 year planned economy+ state capitalism+oil monies+ gommie state agriculture socialism.
Caleb Howard
comparing to Singapore even Germany is poor.
Malaysia looks rich by world standards
>No one or not many people in here want live in Commieblock tier, yet Gov't always build that and yet always empty
I know this feel but here they're full, houses are very expensive
Chase Hall
>looks rich no. it's shit because it's ch*nk-made. no quality at all.
Henry Young
I think it comes down to mentality, I guess. I just hate when there are new facilities, people don't bother to use it (very common in Bandung) and vandalised them. Thing seems getting better to be honest. For example, local taxi drivers were used to be anti of online transportations but now they're starting to imbrace it.
Some place here are really nice, some place just stress you out everyday. I would say Bandung is the worst place to live in Indonesia because 1. Traffic jams caused by jakartafags, 2. Textile industry, 3. Slum in southern area. Although there are some nice place in Bandung, they're far away in the north and full of local tourists. The comfy place I used to live on several months ago is in Magelang, central java. It's chill, comfy, catholic central, and basically a hub central. Bali is great to visit except SUMMER. Jakartafags and foreigners flock there and traffic jams everywhere. And also the risk of being scammed is higher than usual.
Just my 2 cent
Joseph Smith
whatever, looks rich and nice
I wish I could live in Malaysia
thanks
Zachary Kelly
Nuke West Java
Adrian Stewart
I wouldn't recommend to live anywhere in asean except if you got nice work or wages. Just don't, you won't enjoy it
Noah James
why are you so self-hating?
Thomas Parker
I'm not self hating. [spoiler]I don't want you to be associated with us, untermensch[/spoiler]
Jordan Russell
he is right. for short visit or vacation is alright, but staying? no
Julian Harris
Vietnam has no visa requirement or import duties with Poland also muh communist comrades
Nicholas Lewis
>I just hate when there are new facilities, people don't bother to use it I never see that people LOVE new stuff even if they make a mess of it sometimes but usually things turn out well when the investment is put forth to improve something
Hudson Campbell
There are quite a lot of Vietnamese in Poland, especially in Warsaw but even in my small home town we had a Vietnamese family running a Viet bar.
I don't know why they like Poland so much.
I hate European winters
Luke Young
I can't really say why either, but we have a lot of poles and polish products, even polish media here just because of old cold war connections maybe there is a sense of identification with our mutual situations stuck in a sort of limbo
Evan Young
>I guess it's chinese influence
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA those jews are nothing but parasites. Just like Japan and Korea, we also experienced economic boom (but not as massive as nips and korea) in the 70's - 90's.
>Why is phillipines and indonesia poor The anwer is simple: Cleptocracy and incompetent leaders . Indonesia was ruled by the corrupt suharto while phillipines was ruled by Marcos who completely destroys their country economic growth that affected their cunts 'til this day
Cameron Lewis
make a good money back home, and when you're around 40 y/o, you can move here.
Brandon Lee
It is surprising to discover that there are differences in countries other than Singapore. i can't tell the difference Well, you know, When a rich nation sees it, it is difficult to tell the difference between a poor country and a poorer country.
gook are not allowed to post in this thread. we're team japan now ad forever!
Jordan Jenkins
Let's leave this thread, bro. Gerhana bulan soon. /thread
Matthew Perry
Based. japan numba one~
Brayden Long
Some people call Vietnam the Poland of Asia.
Vietnamese people are very smart, education-oriented and hard-working, if there is a Vietnamese child in the class, he's always the smartest one with the best grades. Good for you.
> those jews are nothing but parasites.
Interesting. I read it's Chinese who run Malay economy basically.
>make a good money back home
Poland is too poor to do it.
Frankly speaking, Korea doesn't really look rich as compared to Malaysia or Thailand. I'd say your cities are even more messy.
ok! wanna offer my eclipse prayer then. poland money has better exchange rate here. imagine it's thousand for you, then it's million here.
Angel Young
Sometimes, People especially savage kids Vandalized it, cuz Government Build it but Not Maintain or maintenance it
There is kikebook group called indonesia expats or expat in indonesia, they're pretty helpful. I know, not so much poles in here, but both gov't relations is very good only because of flag
Easton Lopez
>not so much *not many
Jaxon Rogers
>Vietnamese people are very smart, education-oriented and hard-working HAHAHAHAHAHA. If anything our problem is being smart but lazy fucks
Jaxon Powell
>poland money has better exchange rate here. imagine it's thousand for you, then it's million here.
So? By this logic, yen is worth less than Malay currency, does it mean Japan is poorer than Malaysia?
And what you say is not true, 1 MYR = 0.9 PLN so they're worth almost the same.
Poland and Malaysia have almost the same GDP per capita, but Malaysia looks better than Poland imo, you don't have so many run down buildings and roads.
Christian Hall
nice drawing.
so comfy.
Elijah Bennett
You should probably compare the same parts of the city to Google Street View. For example, if you've seen Bangkok's bustling streets, you have to see the bustling streets of Seoul. Perhaps you saw downtown Southeast Asia and the slums of Seoul. Do you know GANGNAM(style)~~
Jason Gray
why is japan so willing to help out asean countries with loans and infrastructural support?
Cooper Rodriguez
Together with China and Myanmar, we will buthcher every muzzies in shitholes such as Malaysia and Indonesia. Islam turned this economic hub into a shithole.
I don't know much about Vietnamese in Vietnam but the ones in Poland are very hard working, no matter if they work in blue collar jobs, sell stuff in markets, run bars or work in business, they work very hard. We admire them, the only problem with them is that their communities are often governed by local mafias and Vietnamese people have to bribe them to get a permission to run a business and the Polish government doesn't really want to enforce our laws there, they have an approach "as long as they pay taxes and don't kill Poles, we don't care what happens inside their communities".
I compare random views, most of Malays or Thais live in nice houses, while Koreans live packed like sardines in commieblocks or tiny houses with bad infrastructure around.
Carson Hill
>Chinese run malay economy
Exactly. That's why I called them jews. Most Malay are still sleeping. If only they knew how dangerous chinks are......
Mason King
> Sometimes, People especially savage kids Vandalized it, cuz Government Build it but Not Maintain or maintenance it Is the government still incompetent? Iheard from an friend living there that they're taking steps to improve things
Joshua Ward
>*Islamized your economy*
nuddin bersonal bid
Isaac Rivera
??? As far as I'm aware, we need to apply and pay for e-Visas for visiting Vietnam and the Vietnamese need a full blown, trip to embassy Visa to go to Poland.
Sebastian Price
Government Plan is Competent, but majority of Gov't worker are incompetent
Colton Williams
Muslim bank is racist. Fuck you.
Lincoln Phillips
We literally have more christians than you do flip
Brandon Evans
If you were talking about the house, it is pretty easy to understand. Mostly we live in an apartment. Because our population density is much higher. Therefore, people living in ordinary homes are extremely divided. Rich or beggars.
>chink who run Malay economy No. Its like the Jews basically. Do they do it for Europe? Ofc not they did it for themselves. Luckily more and more Malays are getting rich... to bad most of them forget their roots and become vile libtards. Just stay in Poland. One false flag attack done by "democracy makers" could easily erupt into a race war. So far no terrorist managed to do any damage thanks to our anti-terrorist police.
Xavier Hill
>team japan now ad forever Ah yes same guy who dumped thorium on us and gave outdated steel mill tech causing massive Perwaja mess on top of Made failed loan of 80's. Not to mention working debt slave south Asians 12-18 hours a day that their heart shut down from overwork by the hundreds.
Islamic banking is a meme. Those "muslims" bankers literally takes hidden interest although Islam forbids it. Only dumb bluepilled muslims would still believe that Islamic banking is free of interest. Viola! Turns out that "muslims" bankers hidden interest rates are wayyyy higher than the jew ones. Turns out muslims are a lot more jewish than jews themselves.
Eli Johnson
Kek! Look at what Christianity did to the Philippines, a total shithole. Might as well reconvert to Islam or worship trees
Cooper Morgan
I compare random views.
Malaysia looks nicer and tidier, imo. Clean, identical houses. Here urban planning is a mess.
Muslim countries like Malaysia/Brunei are quite nice and even Indonesia which is poor has decent infrastructure as you said. Non-Muslim shitholes are just god-awful. It really is the religion that saves them.
Logan Morris
Kys China shill
Jordan Moore
Tbh let us be a third world shithole. I don't want globalism to make more inroads in my country.
The thing is what RK built was rather useless. RK should had created transbandung instead, people would use it. I went there to meet my friend, and in my mind I always think "this would be great with transbandung." Heck, since now RK became the governor, he should develop commuterline for west java especially for the backward south part of west java. The north part is already covered by the jekardah after all. Also to be honest, the only decent public transport and the most significantly developing public transport in greater jekardah is commuterline (train). If you used commuterline like for example, 6 years ago, oh my fucking god, there were many burglars, buskers, beggars, etc. However now, if you use commuterline, you're less likely get stolen by the burglars, and buskers+beggars are literally non-existent there. The condition of the commuterline for bogor-jekardah transit was like hell, like what you saw in south asian train, but now no such things like that anymore. As jekardah-fag, I can say that I'm proud of commuterline.
Jordan Cook
Our infrastructure in Thailand is fucking shit. It floods all the time, power lines a bunch of tangled mess constant fires. Public transport a bus or a pickup with the back cut off. Rickety old trains that take forever
Justin Hughes
>power lines a bunch of tangled mess This is the first thing I noticed about Thailand. Are you guys literally that lazy or is it expensive for underground wiring? Always felt paranoid those shits gonna zap me into oblivion
Chase Campbell
>near a massive lake >split by two seas >underground wiring (lol
External utility poles are far more practical than underground memes
Especially for earthquake, volcanic, and flood prone cunts like ours
Dumbfucks don't understand the concept of geography and think that infrastructure is universal
Aaron Young
Another Vietnamese user on here told me that Viets work hard to get into top universities but once they're there they slack off and skip classes. Is this true?
Matthew Parker
t. Brit-made fake country
Nathaniel Robinson
>gommie state agriculture socialism Can confirm. >dad was from a generation made by that society >scraped enough to go to a decent school >led to studying abroad at a formidable age hence good job life >family is pretty well afloat in the middle class
Brody Butler
No Peninsular Malaysia have their own electrical company seperate from Sabah/Sarawak. We are not a like America who practices crony capitalism where one company are allowed to monopoly everything. Maybe during Mahathir's time there'll be more crony capitalism going on but thats on the chinks and libtards for voting him subsequently dragging this country into the gutter
John Foster
This is true for all of the Sinosphere
Christian Campbell
>wahhhhh why is my shithole so shitty! >must be foreigners and my political rivals
It's true for most East Asians in general. People work hard in schools because of strict parents, but once they go to uni away from family they enjoy their freedom hard
compare other sea capitals to ours and we are as rekt as germany, russia and poland
by the 70s we were a third world shithole already, it just didn't look that way because most of your cunts were only independent for less than 20 years while we're pretty much a commonwealth with minor burger supervision since the 1920s and nothing really changed even after we gained full independence since the burgers didn't interfere that much in our fledgling gubmint
Michael Ortiz
I didn't mean Malaysia, I meant Thailand
Floods are common in Thailand so they're retarded to even consider underground electrical wiring even if they invest billions with state of the art sewage and flood control systems
Jason Morales
Wat are you even blabbering on about? Why tagging me then?
Jeremiah Hughes
How many years for you to realise that you enjoyed the freedom too much and started to study properly again? For me, it was 2 years.
Jose Barnes
Malaysia has relatively well to do states and poor shitholes.
Heh, you think chinks would give a shit? All nationalist malays are >hurr durr terrorist >look america >the WORLDDDD >terroristtsss >helllooo Crywolf all you want.
Jacob Smith
Top isn't looking that bad you just need to trim down the grass then it will look neat.