Explain the states of Russia to me. Which ones actually matter, which ones are interesting, and which ones are shitholes.
Explain the states of Russia to me. Which ones actually matter, which ones are interesting...
>he really thinks Russia has actual "states" with different law systems, culture, identity and accents
top kek
The only what matters in Russia is Moscow and Petersburg. The rest are completely irrelevant. Russia is one of the most centralized countries in the world and even a parcel from Vladivostok to Khabarovsk goes through Moscow. There's basically no economy in Russia except for these 2 big cities + mines and oil refineries scattered across the country.
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Republics has it's own languages and "constitutions" also "presidents". Other are just boring subjects.
This one sounds interesting
>the states of Russia
None of them can possibly be worse than the state of America.
Utter
some of them have there own languages/ethnic groups
it appears they also have a designated redhead area too
Russia is centralized to the point where there's not even any regional accents or language variations.
>Russia is centralized to the point where there's not even any regional accents or language variations.
classic amerimutt post
he is right
Gérard Depardieu (french actor) was minister of culture in one of them (oblast of Mordova)
t. muscovite
They've said it before on Jow Forums, so...
this but with london
France is also highly centralized as well as Scandinavia and most all of Eastern Europe.
It's basically one giant ass mire with clouds of blood-sucking bugs and stuff. If you have some lungs conditions, you'll probably die there in 5 years or so.
Is Germany highly centralized?
You're a federal country so I would say no.
Oblasts and krais are your regular regions. Republics and autonomous okrugs are for minorities. But many of theme are just memes with Russians being the absolute majority there.
I'm citizen of Sakha-Yakutiya Ethnorepublic, AMA
>centralized
>Chechnya
>Tatarstan
>Crimea
Siberia and Far East are mostly populated by Europeans.
Moscow is very multicultural like all European Capital Cities.
Here are Russians in Siberia
ты мocкoвcкaя eбaнaшeчкa
Most of Russians don't think of Chechnya as Russia, it's just a different country with different laws, rules, culture, religion and everything.
And it's actually the only example of real differences. Remember, that you're talking to an American, so he expects something like "weed is allowed in Tatarstan, but banned in Tuva; capital punishment is common in Far East, but abolished in Karelia; football teams from Krasnodar always suck, while Nenets Okrug has the best food; people in Smolensk oblast are commies, while people from Chukotka are liberals" etc. You can't say anything like that about Russian "states", they have the same law system, basically the same culture, the same language and if there are any difference, they don't go along state borders, more like along old regions' borders (Northern Russia - Central Russia - Southern Russia) or the difference big cities - province. The "states" in Russia are completely artificial administrative units and don't show any distinct differences.
>only example
Absolutely wrong. Lots of different regions have different customs and culture. Not sure why a Pole of all people feels qualified to speak about Russia
pottery
>it's own
don't do it again
>muh diversity
>But many of theme are just memes with Russians being the absolute majority there.
Not really absolute, a lot of republics are 50/50.
Also there's Checnya which is 95% Chechen.
>Lots of different regions have different customs and culture.
Not in a way an American would think of it. First of all and the most important, there is no major difference in mentality between Russian "states". It's all the same Russians there, the only mental difference is between big cities "kreakly" and vatniks. It's completely different than in the US where people from California have a completely different mentality from people from let's say NY or Texas.
Secondly, I can't even imagine that any Russian feels more connected to his "state" than to Russia. No one would ever wear a t-shirt "Born in Novosibirskaya Oblast" or "I
Fuck off already, Poltard.
Ask a random American to list 10 differences between a Texan and Californian, he will easily do it.
Ask a Russian to list 10 differences between a person from Vologda Oblast and Penza Oblast. He will only stare at you and won't understand what you want from him.
That's the difference.
>there is no major difference in mentality between Russian "states".
*cringe*
Stop being so butthurt, you know I'm right. Your federalism is a joke.
>10 differences between a Texan and Californian
immobilian prices?
>No one would ever wear a t-shirt "Born in Novosibirskaya Oblast" or "I
Vladivostok is very European.
Most of Russia is uninhabitable shithole. 80% of their population lives in Europe.
St. Peterburg+moscow = russia
The rest is just natural resource warehouse
these people are not Russians ffs, it's not what Americans mean obviously
When an American is asked about a difference between a Texan and Alaskan person, he won't tell you about differences between Mexicans from Texas and native Eskimo people from Alaska, because that's not what anyone means by such a question.
When an American asks about differences between "states" in Russia, he doesn't ask about differences between Russian people and Tatar people or Chukcha people, because everyone knows NATIONS are different.
More like the American wants to know if there is any difference between the concept of "Rossijanin" from Moscow oblast and the concept of "Rossijanin" from the Far East. Like "Rossijanin" from the Far East has a liberal mindset (no matter if he's Russian, Ukrainian, Tatar, Chukcha, Nenets or Tuvan) and "Rossijanin" from Vologda Oblast is conservative, because that's how Americans understand differences. And Russia doesn't have such differences in mentality between states.
I'm an expert on Russia, I speak Russian on almost native level and I have more than 190 hours spent on 2ch hk/po this year. Don't try to argue with me.
>chechens, tuvans and moscovites are all the same
This is what happens after too much reddit.
>I'm an expert on Russia, I speak Russian on almost native level and I have more than 190 hours spent on 2ch hk/po this year. Don't try to argue with me.
>I'm an expert on Russia, I have more than 190 hours spent on 2ch hk/po this year.
I'm sorry m8.
are you stupid? I wrote clearly
>Sure, there might be differences between Russians, Tatars or Chukchas, but not BECAUSE they live in Moscow Oblast, Tatarstan or Chukotka, but because they're Russians, Tatars or Chukchas.
You wrote a lot of BS, dude.
Whole Russian reality and politics come down to memes like MHOГOХOДOBOЧКA OR ДAЛИ/BЗЯЛИ ПOCOCATЬ so dvach is a great place to learn about Russia.
Mostly true, but regions as Yakutia, Chechnya, Dagestan, Tatarstan, etc. are very autonomous. Basically all regions with majority non-russian population are very autonomous.
>if there is any difference between the concept of "Rossijanin" from Moscow oblast and the concept of "Rossijanin" from the Far East
No difference like there is none in the concept of Murrican from West to East coast
>Russia
>matter
>I have more than 190 hours spent on 2ch hk/po this year.
Cringe. You dont know shit about Russia
The general idea of my posts is that "states" in Russia don't have any distinct culture. Nations do. But not "states", "republics" etc. If a Tatar is different from a Russian (Russkij), it's because he's a Tatar, not because he's from Tatarstan.
If a Texan is different from a Californian, it's because he's from Texas, not because he's not American. Now you understand?
Sorry but no. Memes=/= reality
>dvach is a great place to learn about Russia
You have been talking about politics to virgins with no gf earning $200, thus not able to travel farther than 20km
I hope I don't have to mention I've been to Russia many times and I read a lot of different Russian sites, just dvach is always the fastest source of interesting news and discussions.
You wrote a wall of text. Be more brief and to the point redditor.
>like there is none in the concept of Murrican from West to East coast
Tell an American about it, lol. How do you think, why the question in OP was asked by an American?
>The general idea of my posts is that "states" in Russia don't have any distinct culture.
Which isnt true. People from tula have a different culture and traditions form people in yakutsk and even people in moscow. Differences that arent just based on ethnicity
>"states" in Russia don't have any distinct culture
National languages are OFFICIAL in each and every autonous republic.
This means that kids are being taught in THAT NATIONAL LANGUAGE.
this helps to preserve customs and national traditions.
Still doesnt make you qualified enough to argue with a native
>Ive been to Russia
Why?
Are you a hohol?
>I have more than 190 hours spent on 2ch hk/po
post link to steam
>Differences that arent just based on ethnicity
like what? People from Tuva vote for liberal politicians while people from Vologda vote for socialists? Or people in Penza oblast have better food than people in Vologda oblast? These are differences Americans want to know about and there are almost none in Russia and if there are any, they don't have much to do with STATES (administrative units).
Well, you wasted time and money going to Russia and trolling on Jow Forums, but still you know nothing about Russia.
Prishli mne deneg, pecheneg.
Ok, now list me 10 differences between a person from Penza oblast and Vologda oblast. Ofc I mean stereotypical differences every Russian knows about, not something you make up on the spot.
>These are differences Americans want to know about
No, they don't. For Murricans, they all are just Ruskies.
Stop talking bullshit.
>For Murricans, they all are just Ruskies.
Exactly, because they don't know anything about differences and they'd like to learn about them (at least OP). And he can't learn anything, because these differences are negligible or don't exist at all.
>stereotypical differences
You are thinking in memes.
>ok places
moscow, st petersburg
>florida, e.g. soulless tourist trap
south like crimea/sochi/krasnodar
>mexico
chechnya, dagestan, north osetia
>north canada
north siberia
>everywhere else
shithole, basically a broken downsized copy of moscow
Moscow is a great city, relatively developed, relevant. Saint-Petersburg is a beautiful, nice to visit and live for a few weeks (only during summer though) but generally it's a typical shithole if you have to work and live there all the time. Sochi holds many sport, cultural and international events. Nenetsk autonomous okrug is basically the oil capital of Russia where you can earn good money but it has a very cold harsh climate.
The rest are fourth world impoverished hellholes. I'd say Moscow and some parta of SPb are second world, the rest is fourth world in terms of development and relevancy.
Why are you so fixated on Americans?
Step out of that frame of thinking for a second and stop saying bullshit. Better yet fuck off from the threas.
>like what
Like food, dances, speech, people in general
Why can every random American easily come up with 10 stereotypical differences between people from different states but you can't do the same about Russia? Why are there no stereotypes about ADMINISTRATIVE UNITS in Russia? Because they don't have any culture on their own.
A Russian who lives in Kazan will be culturally closer to a Russian from Moscow, not to a Tatar from Kazan. Because "Tatarstan" per se doesn't have any distinct culture. Only Tatars do. No Russian from Kazan will call himself "Tatarstanian".
Пapни, a aптeчкa этo жe кaкoй-тo мecтный oпyщeнeц, типa cлoвeнцa, кoтopый eвpoкoк зa бapыш cocaл, я пpaвильнo пoнимaю? Пpocтитe зa нepoвный пoчepк, я eщё нe дo кoнцa ocвoилcя c фyнкциoнaлoм дaннoгo фopyмa.
>they'd like to learn about them
They don't. He asked about "states".
You were told about the main difference: the right to teach your kids in Tatar, Yakut, Chechen etc language.
This will never be possible neither in Pooland nor in Ukraine nor in Germany.
>Why are you so fixated on Americans?
Because OP is American and we try to answer his question?
>Why can every random American easily come up with 10 stereotypical differences
Because the Western mindset is fundamentally racistic and thinking in stereotypes.
Simple as this.
Why are YOU trying to answer it when literally every native itt has told you that you're wrong?
Because Russians aren't objective and neutral on this matter, obviously. I am a foreigner who knows a lot about Russia so I'm more reliable.
First rule of knowledge about Russia - never listen to Poles and Brits. Never listen to anyone from butthurt belt actually, except maybe Balts, because balts are often similar to us and they may know what they're talking about. So, let's begin.
There's no difference between oblast and krai. At all.
Republics are national authonomies. That's pretty retarded shit, often ruled by local corrupted ethnic clans.
Do not travel to republics of Caucasus and Tuva without any local aqcuaintances.
Jewish Autonomous oblast functions as republic, but almost all people out there are Russians. Same in such respublics as Karelia, Udmurtia, Mordovia, Crimea, Komi, where everyone are either Russians or Russified.
Visit anything, but in most of places you won't find anything interesting if you don't know Russian or don't have someone local who knows shit.
>Because the Western mindset is fundamentally racistic and thinking in stereotypes.
Ok, this is already kokokoing and trolling. No point to discuss it further indeed.
>Russia-hating Pooland
>reliable source of information
lol kek lmao
Ok, so maybe you'll be the one who is able to list 10 differences between a person from Vologda and Penza oblast (differences every Russian knows about)?
>Because OP is American
So? Your mistakes are in assuming A. The american mindset and that all americans are the same. B. That only americans will read this thread C. That because OP is american we all.need to oversimplify shit and talk like idiots and D. That you know anything about Russia
>Because Russians aren't objective and neutral on this matter,
Why wouldnt we be? It's a completely neutral question.
>hurr natives arent reliable
>I totaly know better
Absolute state of polish arrogance
I don't hate Russia, I'm fascinated about it.
Also
>I'm more reliable.
>gets his info from dvach
>is obsessed with Russia and is in literally every russian thread talking shit about russians
>has a polish flag
'Okay'
>10 differences between a person from Vologda and Penza
That's like 10 differences between a person from Idaho and Washington state that every burger knows about.
You have a Spanish flag, so how can you know anything about Russia? Just like that guy with the Swiss flag.
Don't judge people by flags.
>Do not travel to republics of Caucasus and Tuva without any local aqcuaintances
Do other Russians even travel to Cuacasaus?
You are the only one who is trolling here
>You have a Spanish flag, so how can you know anything about Russia?
Im a Russian here on holiday
You on the other hand have a flag that is synonymous with butthurt about Russia (of which you are a prime example considering your anti-russian posts in all the other threads Ive seen you).
1. Climate and landscape.
2. People in Vologda look more european (more finnish ancestors, less asian ones).
3. People from Vologda have a distinctive accent (ru.wikipedia.org
4. There are more some interesting objects in Vologda. Pensa lacks it, desu.
5. Vologda is closer to capitals, so it's more developed.
It's not 10, yeah.
Can you name 10 differences between Lublin and Belostok or Shezyn and Vroclav?
Exactly. Believe me every Burger can easily tell you 10 differences between them, because there's something like "Washingtonian" and "Idahoan" identity (not an ethnic one, more like cultural). There is a certain set of stereotypes about people from Idaho and a certain set of stereotypes about people from Washington every American knows about.
Meanwhile, there are no stereotypes about people from Penza in Russia, because such divisions are artificial for Russians, just like your "states" - administrative units.
>10 differences between a person from Vologda and Penza oblast
The only difference between them would be the certain kinds of aftershave and glass cleaning liquids they consume lmao.
>3. People from Vologda have a distinctive accent (ru.wikipedia.org
This is actually the only difference out of these 5 that can be called "cultural".
>Can you name 10 differences between Lublin and Belostok or Shezyn and Vroclav?
Poland is way more similar to Russia than to the USA in this case. We don't have such differences and I can openly admit it.
>more than 190 hours spent on 2ch hk/po this year.
My condolences
>Climate and landscape.
He asked about personality, mentality and so on you dumb slavshit subhuman.