Why don't Americans have fences or hedges?

Why don't Americans have fences or hedges?

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no need for a fence when you carry a gun

that looks like hell

Gated community. Theoretically everyone there should be too normie to steal or trespass.

looks nice
everybody hates fences

no niggers or spics in suburbs. don't need a fence

tall fences make good neighbors, but big guns make tall fences.

>yfw it's normal for residential streets in America to not have pavements
>yfw residential areas are often too far from services to get there without driving
>yfw you are literally a non-person if you don't have a car, and you would likely starve or die of exposure if you found yourself stranded in one of these neighbourhoods

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Privacy?

Zoning laws don’t allow you to put fences in the front yard.

literally cattle

You don't own the land around your house?

>Why don't Americans have fences or hedges?
Many people do have fences.
Neighbor across the street from me has a fence.
House two houses down from me also has a fence.
At least 6 houses on my street have fences.

>if you found yourself stranded in one of these neighbourhoods
now imagine you're in phoenix arizona where it's gets up to 110 f (44c)

Almost everyone has a fence in the back. A few have it on the sides. Prettymuch nobody has them in the front.

Damn shame cause when I went to Europe I saw a lot of fences/gates out front and it made things really nice.

The first part is not true. Must suburbs have sidewalks

Why do you need a fence in front. It won't serve for anything.

You technically own it, but there’s a shitton of restrictions on land use in the suburbs.
Ironic that right-wing “limited gubmint” Americans love suburbia, but suburbia only exists because of government regulations and programs.

Discourage intruders.
I live in a city which is 70% black. It's a very smart decision to either have a fence or live in a gated community.

That’s flatly untrue and there’s no way you believe something that wrong.
Off the top of my head: they give privacy, enforce property lines, give protection and safety, if you have a dog you can keep him in the front. My dad had soil erosion and wanted to put up a fence in the front to keep water from going into the yard but city council wouldn’t let him.
Fuck your dumbass, lying propaganda.

I'm talking about the suburbs like the ones op post.
In the case of cites, I'm pretty sure black people will just hop over it.

It's impossible to fail your driving test in the USA because they only drive manuals, so it's unlikely that you'll be unable to drive there.

Not sure what this shit is. Suburbs where I live look nothing like this, yet even Americans ITT don't seem to find it weird. Must be mid-western cunts

>why do you need property rights

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I put my dog in the backyard which has a fence. Why the fuck are you talking about propaganda

just go along with it like usual

Nah kid you made a stupid post. It happens.

That's a brand new development. If you see old ones built decades ago, they have a lot more mature trees and shade.

>why don't americans have fences
fences are restraining freedom of movement, so it's basically communism

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Why is there only sidewalk on one side of the road?

That's retarded.

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> the protection of private property is communism

it really depends on the neighborhood, mine has fencing, and far larger yards than that in the OP

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>too intelligent to cross the street

dunno why you get so fascinated by american suburbs when canadian and australian houses look exactly the same

Gated communities are retarded.
Better to just allow people to put up their own gates, instead of sectioning off a whole portion of the city.

To be honest, this is a good point. So many front walls/fence in this country completely ruin the look of the street. Unless there's some sort of consistency they look like utter shit.

The suburb was sort of America's answer to the commieblock and it is very much a product of mid-20th century thinking when big, scientific planning was in fashion.

Fences in front look ugly to me, But yeah they are useful

What (in your view) does the average suburb look like then?

our suburbs look way different though

No they don't, I've been all over the UK.
You can have some kind of standards from the Planning Commission, but banning them entirely is IQ49 retarded.

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you have a place to live, and all the space you need to stretch out and enjoy your surroundings, or host a party, it's really nothing at all like a sardine can magnate for crime and bleakness of the commiehousing block

>hop over it
haha, you try

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often they do, but sometimes the HOA forbids them because they might "ruin the aesthetic of the neighborhood"or some suck drivel.

Americans (especially boomers, but Republicans in general) have a really strange sense of "I should tell you what to do with your land"

If you try to run a BnB out of your house, or in some cases a home office, they'll tell you you can't do that. Then they wonder why their nieghborhood doesn't have walkability.

When I went to England there were cozy bed and breakfasts in a lot of neighborhoods, it was nice. Stayed in one in Bath, and another in Stratford upon Avon.

American boomers also get pissed if someone builds something intheir town and doesn't supply 80 parking spaces. They think THAT's what makes traffic worse.

Not him, but in my experience, most subdivisions in the US weren't just repetitions of the exact same house (reflected, but with barely any variation in color). They usually had at least 4 or 5 repeating designs, all in different colors. Most yards tended to be very distinct from one another.

In older/richer subdivisions, the designs varied a LOT depending on how old the part of the subdivision is. Colors varied, too (they they usually tended to stay to a selected palate because HOAs). Again, a lot of variety in yard appearances.

Also, I have NEVER seen a subdivision that was made in a grid pattern. that's really fucking weird. Usually they look like trees.

zoning isn't some republican invention you tosspot

This. I've never seen in ny life a suburb that looks like the one in op

fpbp

>Why don't Americans have fences or hedges?

Some days Jow Forums asked us why we always have fences.

Today you ask why we don't.

I guess it depends on what single pic you choose to show.

this is the secret to Jow Forums threads, stop explaining the act!

Because they don't get their stuff stolen by arabs and eastern e*ropean trash all the time unlike in e*rope.

>This. I've never seen in ny life a suburb that looks like the one in op
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Same here, never saw one in real life, see it every day on Jow Forums

asiatic hands typed this post

Does this mean tomorrow they go back to asking us we always have fences?

>American saying tosspot
Uh...

If I take a liking to a word I use it, that's the way of the English language.

I've always found this hard to understand. So you don't have small shops or other facilities scattered throughout the suburbs? It's just house after house after house...?

arent there alligators in pic related?

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The walls of my house?

>muh race

You can have annoying neighbors you despise even in white neighborhoods.

Where I live no houses look the exact same. Some are brick, some are wooden, there's lots of trees around and there's usually fences on the sides and backs of each yard. I live on the east coast where a lot of the neighborhoods are old, so I assume these soulless suburbs are a newer phenomenon in developing places

In the south yeah, we love our gators they're like dogs except we can't touch them

So neighbor's dog won't shit on your lawn

It's next to the sububrs, not between the houses. I can walk to a local small stirp mall in one minute. It's not that bad.
The strip mall has a bank, gym, small convenience store, italian restaurant, Chinese restaurant, jewish bakery and some stores that I never visited.

that looks fucking bizarre

This looks aesthetic desu.

based

That never happened to me even tho almost all my neighbors have dogs, maybe they cleaned the shit before I noticed.

I heard about that. Also, impossible to change house planning.

No, he wasn't even totally correct when he said that.

All areas are different, and you can get zoning variances if needed.

still looks like shit and there's no privacy

what a huge waste of space

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>So you don't have small shops or other facilities scattered throughout the suburbs? It's just house after house after house...?

Exactly. Suburbia was made by separating uses, so one neighborhood's for residential, one for office, etc.

In addition to uses, the buildings are heavily regulated. Can't be taller than a certain height, they need to be set back 20-25ft from the street, can't have a fence out front, can't have more than a certain # of people in them.

If you're interested in how it happened, the first few chapters of Pic Related explain pretty well.

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what are the chances of having a gator entering your house without a fence in Florida?

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Read the thread. Most suburbs do not look like the ones in op. And people in general stay in their backyards not frontyards. You are allowed to fense the backyard. I can show you a part of mine if you want
We have alot of space in america.

Are there ever shops with an apartment upstairs (something like pic related)?

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No American here has ever seen anything like op's pic except for on Jow Forums, where it gets posted every day.

we have too much empty space, do you think this is out west? HA, this is pretty much anywhere in the north east

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Entering a house? Slim. However alligators are very commonly found lounging in yards and under vehicles. You have to always be on the look out of gators.

0.0001%

Yeah it happens every blue moon but you can pretty much rest assured it'll never happen to you.

Yes ofc in small towns. Pic related my local town.

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I love how America is mostly a middle class society and people trust each other because your neighbors worth is pretty much the same like yours so why would you try to rob him?

But it's funny because here we have the same situation yet fences are a must. It's deeply ingrained in culture, especially in Slavic culture, because all Slavs except for Slovenes have fences around their houses, but Balts for example, despite being as poor as us and having more or less the same social structure, usually don't have fences.

Leftists have been criticizing suburbia ever since the 50s, which is mysterious considering a lot of things about them are pretty Sovietesque.

Yes, there are gators around Florida and Louisiana.

Sounds like you live right on the outskirts of the burb or your suburb is an extremely rare case, or an extremely old historic neighborhood where mixture of uses was allowed then grandfathered in.
In any case it's an unsustainable model for growth and it's bad for property values, which is why nobody builds like that anymore. It was only ever constructed because the government subsidized it, at the cost of many other things.

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Not him but no, not in suburbs. Suburbs don't even have those types of buildings. You can find them in downtowns though.

Also to clarify the gators lounging in your yards and shit aren't that dangerous. Just don't mess with them.

That is horrible living. I can't imagine living on anything less than 80 acres .

Only in the older area of cities, mostly on the east coast.

Most of the Eastern Seabord looks like that in some part or another

Pool encounters are not uncommon

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I lived in something like OP's pic, my Southeast city has plenty of them.

Leftists eh? I know quite a few right-wing urbanists, including some real estate developers.
But if they were sovietesque shouldn't right-wingers be the most critical of them?

You'll find that in the "downtown" area of the suburb, but not in the residential areas. But in most suburbs
1) You wouldn't be allowed to construct that today due to zoning laws
2)They don't exist

What I want to know is why not pack houses closer together when none of that land is used for anything other than letting grass grow

These are the worst, the idiots jump in the pool but can't get out.

I don't know if it's considered mixture but basically when you exit the burb, the state highway is full of commerical stuff that you can walk to.

loads like that in my town, being one of the oldest in the state, with our modern commercial buildings having been finished in the 19th century

The great irony of these places, is that boomer suburbanites see it and go "Oh that's so charming, why can't we have that here?"
but if you tried to build it where they live, they'd run to city council and protest it.

You can even see the boomer mentality evident in the Americans here defending suburbia.

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Will local pest control come fetch them out or do you have to use some service?

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Suburbs simply are not that bad and don't look like op's pic; No one is saying they are perfect.

depends on the municipality, usually the animal control handles them though