If I breed with a Latina what are the chances of this happening ?

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What part of recessive traits disseminated through the region you dont understand
Even if she had full blown black skin she can carry all of the recessives, you dont need a lightskinned latina to have light children, you just need enough european dna

In spain most people carry the recessives but they are inhibited epigenetically, in latin america they dont need to be inhibited, they are just dormant

>tfw no Brazilian gf

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>In spain most people carry the recessives {{{{ but they are inhibited epigenetically }}}}, in latin america they dont need to be inhibited, they are just dormant

How? you have a source?

Most kids in spain are born light haired and lighter eyed but both features darken through the years, this is the result of emergent epigenetical overriding adaptation

recessive traints from who?
from the spanish and the portugese who themselves have next to none
give me a break
if you're full black then most likely only have a white ancestor a few generations back in your faimily
and for a recessive trait to seep down through, the probability is 0.5^(number of generations)
three generations is already 0.125 probability for this person to even have a recessive trait, and multiply that by another 0.5 which is the probability that it's the one that gets passed to the child and you've got yourself a 6.125% chance. congrats
plus you're fucking retarded with since in no case can the odds be more than 50% if one of the parents is brown eyed

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Girl on far right is Justin bibers ex and prolly one of my fav fapping material

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but how are these epigenetic changes induced? Is there any kind of study about it or are conjectures?

Shut the fuck up dumbass
>the Spanish and Portuguese who have next to none
False, they have nearly the same proportion as the french and swiss, as i said their prevalence of the alleles SLC34A5, SLC45A2 among others on the MC1R, is the same which is consistent with the spanish people genetic origin in central europe rather than mediterranean europe

>if you're full black then most likely only have a white ancestor a few generations back in your faimily
and for a recessive trait to seep down through, the probability is 0.5^(number of generations)
Yeah dumbass except that that is assuming that no further influx of recessive traits into a population takes place, which is not the case for latin america, once at least half of your population carries the recessives these will be selected naturally by enviroment, on the contrary the dominant traits are the ones that truly die once they stop being manifested, thsts why evolution an entropic process

>since in no case can the odds be more than 50% if one of the parents is brown eyed
Now I know you are retarded, none of the recessive traits at hand are bi-allelic, most are tri to hexa allelic which means the range of probability goes all the way from 10 to 90%

>from the spanish and the portugese who themselves have next to none
I've seen a lot of swarthy Iberians + blonde germanics mixes and the kids usually have sort of light hair. See Daniel Brühl, Stella Banderas, Nora Segura...

Testosterone makes you hairier and swarthier, and your body gets more t as you grow old. Now put two and two together. That's also why you can find more naturally light haired women than men.

Genes sometimes are ridiculously random

Morata and sister ( same parents )

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Left looks dyed.

Do you have a link to a study about the epigenetic component of hair colour? I had heard that’s what causes hair colour to change but i’ve never been able to find a good paper on this specifically and i’d be interested

Blonde hair tend to darken over time, I know several people like that.

There’s an user with a half Mexican daughter and she’s pretty brown so not very likely

They are induced through the body's ability to synthesize vitamins from the enviroment, so in other words diet, exposure to sun and humidity, etc...
for example this

Genes are not random they are deterministic

Sure let me search for some

It seems so, although I'm not good at detecting dyes

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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2938584/#CIT3
citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.533.337&rep=rep1&type=pdf
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3288386

Keep in mind these mechsnisms of epigenetic regulation are far from being fully understood, however theu can be observed and measured

Costa Rican, Panama, Colombian, Argentinan and Uruguayan latinas are at least 60% yuropoor so if you're a 100% your child will come out looking like a spaniard

Found the picture

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Your pic is basically the average Croat family. My close relatives are gypsy-brown tanned, dark-haired turbo-Meds and I'm a sickly pale blue-eyed dark blonde bydlo Slav. I don't know what kind of gene magic is involved, though, but it's been like that for centuries here. Asian and black mixtures end up being much more prominent and obvious than North+South European ones.

Her gf was probably more on the indian side which happens sometimes in mexico, however same happened to Jeb Bush but nowadays his son George P Bush who looked indio af during infancy looks med af

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Same person at 12yo

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She already looks whiter

Where do these come from

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God I love being right

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Honduras

Idk how porbably is but pigmentation is controled by very few genes so you could be le 1% face is still look "white" due to light pigmentation (see: that ginger mexican boxer)

Hmm? I’m just saying she already looks whiter than Jeb’s son
If you want to know about the girl’s whiteness over time you’ll have to go ask in /cum/ and hope her dad is posting

I dont need to, im always right

i was literally talking about eye color because the baby has blue eyes, and that being the hardest constraint to the OPs "what are the odds of this happening" i focused on it
and as far as eye color goes, the mendelian model works just fine there
you can talk about your hexa penta shit all you want but none of the shit you're saying corresponds to reality
if a white guy and a swarthy girl from cuba had 75-90% chance of having blue eyed children (you can't make this shit up), then the number of blue eye people wouldn't be plummiting in the US and more importantly, there'd be more fucking people with light eyes in latin america in the first place
you're claims are completely contrary to what we can see going on in real life

The kids eyes and hair will probably turn brown as she gets older

none, you aren't white since you're north american

Are you retarded? Think on your assumptions bayesianly for a second
Do you know the number of people with light eyes in latin america? Or of people with brown to light blonde hair?
Do you know the number or the proportion of white/hispanic couples that reproduce compared to purely hispanic and purely white couples?

Whats the european proportion of the swarthy cuban you are assuming? Are you assuming that most cubans (specially cubans in the US) are swarthy?

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Ignore the 73% for white hispanics thats because of mexicans that dont chose a racial category or chose "other" in the census get defaulted to white

That's not true

>
This girl, and that balcony, look Bulgarian etc.

turbo cope

>That's not true
Some Hispanic or Latino American groups that have white majorities or pluralities originate in countries that do not. For example, Mexico'swhitepopulation is 9% to 17%[12][13]only, while Mexico is majoritarilymestizo, meaning that they have mixed European and Native American descent at an extent while 52.8% ofMexican Americansare White, or identify themselves as white in the Census (See the table). However, genetic studies performed in the general Mexican American and Mexican populations have shown that Mexicans residing in Mexico consistently have a higher European admixture in average (with results ranging from 37%[14]to 78.5%[15]) than Mexican-Americans (whose results, range from 50%[16]to 68%[17]). The discrepancy between the percentage of white Mexicans reported in United States and white Mexicans from Mexico can be explained if the differences in racial perceptions that exist in both countries are considered: The concept of race in Mexico is subtle not only including physical clues such as skin color but also cultural dispositions, morality, economic, and intellectual status. It is not static or well defined but rather is defined and redefined by situation. This makes racial distinctions different than those in other countries such as the United States.[18][19][20]

what about this

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"Some other race" is the third largest racial category and the majority who mark that option are Hispanic. The rest are Arab. "Some other race" is not lumped in with non-Hispanic White.

The true percentage of white Latinos is 9-16%
See:
youtube.com/watch?v=TQkAx04jjGo&feature=youtu.be&t=3274

the real number is

That study which you are quoting is called Admixture in Latin America, Geographic Structure, Phenotypic Diversity and Self Perception, ir das done by a Brazilian University and directed by Andres Ruiz-Linares

During the study they used repositories of native american populations but didnt consider the possibility of these repositories already having european admixture, in the end every single country with an important mestizo population got innacurate readings for their native american composites, every single posterior study as well as several older ones contradict Ruiz's findings.

Nowadays we have a far better understanding thanks to the genome project giving interest to the quality of native american samples.

Here you can see how the quechua or mayans are up to 20% european, nos imagine not knowing that and believing that european is some ancestral eurasian component of amerindians

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I also can see that, for latin america, literally

You can never really tell. My half Mexican cousins are very dark, as dark as their father, while I also know some half Hispanics who look totally Anglo

White mexicans*
Yes you are correct, they for some reason identify as white more in the US and reduce the mean average for non mexican white hispanics in the us, which is probablh somewhere around 85%

Shut the fuck up dumbass not a single study backs up Ruiz's study

Read the conclusions drawn by 23anme on their data reveal, a shitton of hispanics are on the 90% european or more percentile

No, the study im quoting is literally called Genetic Composition of Latin America's Mixed Populations, the only group on that study that measured whites specifically was the brazilian sample, which shows lots of people on the +90% european percentile, by comparison finnish are 89% european and 13% Siberian and the portuguese are roughly 12% north african, which you can also see on the charts.

If your conclusion is that there are no pure whites in latin america based on samples from people donating blood in the middle of the street, you are retarded

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The 23andme study assigns a lot of latinos the "unassigned" DNA
Look at and add up the percentages. They do not add up to 100.

>The 23andme study assigns a lot of latinos the "unassigned" DNA
They add up to less than 100% which accounts for the rejection of the middle eastern and east asian and the unasigned, which obviously cannot be considered as part of the other three

If you are assuming the unasigned = native you are wrong, the unassigned is due inability to recognize loci due to admixture

woah woah mister high IQ peru-ano,calm down there

>he only group on that study that measured whites specifically was the brazilian sample
so what, did you understand my point? I was talking about the population of each country as a whole

>a shitton of hispanics are on the 90% european or more percentile
how many? are they just hispanics or those who classify themselves as white?
how many of them above 95%? and 97%

why are peruvians so obsessed with white people pretty pathetic dude

imagine getting pissed off while talking about """"""yt""""" latinos

op is colombian

JESUS FUCK I NEED TO HAVE A LATINA GF

Carlos Bocanegra is another one, his dad is Mexican and mom is white.

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>how many

Literally read the fucking chart i just posted and to which you quoted, look at the amount of hispanics on the 0% african and 0% native to 10% african and 10% native

>how many above 95% and 97%
Why the fuck would you calculate that? 90% of europeans are on that percentile themselves due to siberian/middle eastern/north african admixture

I am obsessed with data, and find ignorance and pride on it as the worst type of offense, and you two are ignorant and take pride on it too
Learn to fucking interpret the data you yourselves post

TRUTH IS THE ONLY MORAL IMPERATIVE AND I WILL RE-INSTAURATE PRAGMATIC ETHICS EVEN IF I HAVE TO MURDER EVERY SINGLE KANTIAN AND LUDDITE OUT THERE

>bocanegra
>pink lips
???

>Literally read the fucking chart i just posted and to which you quoted
that one doesn't say how many how many have both little to none african/indio blood

>Why the fuck would you calculate that?
exactly because of what you said :^)

indegenous or majority indegenous people will FOREVER have inferiority complex. i wish it werent true because its depressing af if you really think about it but history cannot be changed unfortunately.

Are you actually that fucking braindead?
Do you realize that chart actually includes the number of hispanics with 90 to 100% native and black? Cant you do the most fucking basic math and add 2 and 2 instead of asking for redundant data

Truth=delusions of tribalism

Also I am not native

>Are you actually that fucking braindead?
woah woah stop there
no one is blessed with an IQ as high as yours
now pls do the math and explain it to me :(

*truth=!delusions of tribalism

Also pic of me

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pffffffftttt hahaha I remember you
you are deluded as fuck

Most Dominican women do not look like that.

i know you arent even IF native people ever achieve similar socioeconomic status of the castizos and criollos there will always be the cuck factor that holds them back from truly living fulfilled lives and it exists in every single LA cunt, even majority indio bolivia which of course is the most miserable country in all LA.

Same could be said for the Venezuelan and Mexican...

>please do the math

If a latino is on the 0 to 10% black percentile this either means this person has a 90 to 100% composition of either native or european, however once you go to the other chart you see that the proportion of people on the 90 to 100% is also low, so this person can only exist in one of the other charts, so if you add up all of the data with the intent of reconstructing a new chart of european admixturw, due to the excess of people not mappeable kn either of the other two charts, you must conclude that that of this people is on the 90 to 100% european percentile (which you can do for any percentage actually)

It really depends. You would need a better genetic and genealogical study of the region plus of Spain and Portugal to really determine it. The population of pure Europeans in Latin America is likely slim but it also ranges great from country to country.

Where does this "latinos have 80% european dna" bullcrap come from? I've seen you guys irl and you guys look very distinguishable from white americans. stop kidding yourselves.

Any latino who takes a 23andme test then uploads it to GEDMatch sees most of their unassigned turn into native DNA

50%

I am not racist towards natives, they have big craneal cavities with directly correlate to innate intelligence, i think their behavior is a result of systematic oppression but i am aware of their potential.

No one says that, there are lots of latinos on the 80% but the average for the whole region is 60%

Thats because we have so little native american data that its a possibility that that unrecognizeable loci are simply native ones that we havent reconstructed yet, however in reality more loci is lost due to admixture, think of it this way from all that unasigned you would be able to reconstruct the entire quechua genome but that hasnt happened yet and google and other companies have to send people to the most remote places in order to collect less contaminated andean samples

Forgot pic

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dude you have shit tier english and I couldn't understand anything you said
what would be results anyway?

WE IN THIS

No chance of Micheal Jackson coming back.

Researchers already use native DNA that is present in Mestizos to reconstruct a virtual native population

construct*

I want to breed with a latina. I dated a dominican few years back and there was a time I thought we would have kids but didn't work out. I've also dated mexicans and puerto ricans.
>tfw no dominican to smother my face pic related

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Think of it this way

(1)... The three compositions must add to 100%
(2)... This person is less than 10% black
(3)... This person is less than X native
(4)... The remaining is white

Now asume a number for X and you should be able to calculate the range of whiteness for a given X based on the arbitrary number of "less than" that youve chosen for the blacks

In other words a+b+c adds to 100% if i give you a range for a and b you should be able to calculate the range for c

>what would be the results anyway
Idk lol but visually i can tell its between 7 and 15% for the 90 to 100%
So kinda a third of the latinos that consider themselves white, which makes sense if you think that the average white latino is 80% white which means that the upper third would be on the +90% white

I personally welcome our andean overlords

Yet they havent presented a reconstructed genome, because you can predict somatic data but you cannot predict the particular mutations of the loci

None anglos are uglies as fuck but with you're white mediterranean or scandinavian the chances are very high

I'm not sure I follow what that has to do with my post.

Am op good thing I’m not anglo then

God i want a Latina gf so bad

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>because you can predict somatic data but you cannot predict the particular mutations of the loci
What do you mean?

Mestizos and Natives obviously share DNA but some the native DNA in mestizos is slightly different because gene flow between both populations was not free-flowing.

You can make algorithms predict the level of correlation,sometimes with good results sometimes with bad such as in Ruiz's study

You cannot predict how the mitchondrial sequency will mutate in order to sevelop a new haplotype, which would be what the algorithm pics up on the first place

I don't know what you're saying but I am saying that researchers create virtual populations based on the European, Native, and African DNA in mixed latinos.

You don't need to use real Europeans, Natives, and Africans as a reference because the programs they use will detect 3 populations