A FUCKING DICK

About whole WWII you know you were considered subhumans too and get exterminated eventually if krauts won?

there would be literally no difference in the outcome other than there would be few millions less czechs and most of our historical buildings would be obliterated.

>its 1944
>red army literally on the other side of river
>lets just destroy the whole city and kill ourselves in a mad blaze of glory
well, it was their choice

Red army was supposed to join and get krauts to encirclement. Why people who don't know history even discuss it?
Poles didn't beat the germans but made big contribution to defeat them overall. Unlike you cowards and traitors

>there would be literally no difference in the outcome other than there would be few millions less czechs and most of our historical buildings would be obliterated.

sometimes I wish we would have gone that route as well but muh patriotism won

>We beat the Soviet's once so we can do the same with Nazi's r-right guise?

Also the propaganda was crazy at the time. According to some polish newspapers german tanks were made out of literal cardboard

Thinking that Stalin would support the uprising was insane to begin with. He was still salty because the Red Army lost because of him in 1920 since he would move his troops to Warsaw and besieged Lwów instead like a complete fucktard

He had to take Warsaw but he projected his hate on the polacks because of his own incompetency which he couldn't accept

>cowards and traitors
we didnt betray anybody. In fact we were left for dead by all our treaty allies. It was the right choice to save the nation

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Czechs got no honor, no God and no balls

*wouldn't
*Soviets
*Nazis

ffs.

You betrayed all slavs. Krauts were fighting in tanks made by you.

Some facts.
-capital was already razed to the ground before uprising, uprising only made them worse
-poles stood up because they know the soviets will came, but they didn't came deliberately(if they did they would be treated as liberators, now the same russian fuckers are wondering why poles don't think they liberated them)

no czechs are just opportunitsts, they are gypsies of slavs, which is inherited by the long history of gypsies in this country, some of them get to czech dna.

In fact czechs did more crimes to germans than germans did to czechs (except few massacres nothing was done to czechs)

whoa, whoa. Literally millions of poles worked nonstop for years for the nazi germany. You betrayed the free world. Polaks worked in the fields to feeed the germans and in factories to build their guns. They should have all killed themselves to save their honor.

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we betrayed you if anything
then again relations between our countries weren't exactly peachy back then

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Those situations are not even similar

>nono, we should've just left that chunk Czechs first snatched from us when we were defending from the Soviets
>ignoring that area would get eventually purged from all nonGermans if history went in a different direction
>let your own people die/get dispalaced/enslaved because of a technicality

leftoid brains

Because Poles are fucking retarded that's why

They absolutely are
You're saying Czechs are traitors because they didn't commit suicide by standing up to the Nazis
Poles took a month of fighting to learn the same
After that thousands of Poles had to do labor for the German war machine
So are all Poles who did that because they didn't wanna get killed traitors?

>hundreds of thousands of people die
>mostly young boys at the beginning of their lives
>never had a chance to begin with
>outgunned and outnumbered
>but let's start an uprising XD
absolutely EPIC

most of polish history is glorifying uprisings
the january uprising, the warsaw uprising, the silesian uprisings, and the dozens of other uprisings we did
it helped to motivate the people while poland was occupied, by showing that people had the courage and the honor to stand up for their fatherland
but glorifying these uprisings nowadays promotes inferiority complexes in poles because most of those uprisings were bloodily crushed
God knows we had enough battles and wars were we were victorious, so why do we glorify the instances in which we got btfo?
it's completely retarded

this is your GROM operator for today

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Poland has been totally beaten how is that similar idiot? For example Germany attacked in 1 September soviets 17 September if Poland would just surrender Krauts would get whole Poland then. When Poland proposed military alliance to Czechs they rejected it.

>calls me leftoid

wtf did you just say about me u lil bitch? I'll have you know that I was in the warsaw uprising commemoration today and got weird looks from ACTUAL leftoids thinking that the "armband" I was wearing looked a lil "dodgy"

Oh yes because the invasion of Czechoslovakia was such a great fucking idea.
It was a terrible diplomatic decision and we lost all credibility from our allies.
>hurr durr briton traitor

If Czechs ganged up with us France and Britain honoured the treaty the war would be totally different. We did our part.

>our symbolic weapons is szczbzrzzz bitch

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Red Army was already marching throught Poland in 1944, the Uprising was started when Red Army was already close to Warsaw, and was supposed to last only few days, before russians come and help, it was necessary to make sure that it were polish soldiers that liberated Warsaw, because otherwise USSR influence as the """liberators""" would lead to communism in Poland and this is exactly what happened
Red Army stopped on the outskirts of Warsaw and waited there, ignoring radio messages, and the Uprising that was supposed to last 5 days, lasted for 63 days with 0 help from the outside
after German soldiers(better armed, and actually real soldiers, not just armed citizens and kids) finally regained control over the city after 2 months, Red Army finally moved and liberated Warsaw
Poland was betrayed once again and this is why the uprising failed

Yes, but none of them did.
You can even find the reason why in the post above you.

Stalin was never our friend to begin with.
That's why the uprising was a mad idea.

You are brain dead or something? That's no excuse to not honour the treaty and if Czechs took our proposition of alliance that would never happen.

Poland had no chance against Germany, neither did Czechoslovakia (their situation was even more hopeless). You calling them traitors because they didn't sacrifice thousands of their young men for a lost cause is pretty low
I wasn't talking about the Warsaw Uprising

You have made a fallacy and you (krauts) are supposed to be the smart ones. Read everything one more time.

cool, so everyone should just stay calm and let German chimpanzees plnder their country because they stand no chance and wait for USSR or USA to show and win the war singlehanded
what a brilliant idea
the war was ultimately won by united effort and local uprisings always helped in bleeding germany from the inside

>That's no excuse to not honour the treaty
I knew you would say that

You probably believe that NATO is supposed to provide us with military personnel and arms and will declare war if we're ever attacked the truth is that the treaty does not exclusively state that they have to provide help. They can send sandviches or fliers of a local strip club and they would still be honoring the treaty.
It's the small print that counts the most

tell me what it was then smartass
Nono, you should try to beat up a gunman if he insults you for keeping your honor. Fuck being alive and shit, what matters is the principle.

The only thing is that treaty wasn't the NATO. It was protection treaty not declaring war treaty.

I agree that fighting against people who will surely kill you is completely retarded, and from a demographic and economic standpoint for Poland, the Warsaw Uprising was a completely retarded decision.
But the guy you replied to has a point, partisan movements like AK in Poland and similar movements in Belarus and other places helped the Red Army to move forward, by providing them with intel and by weakening German units.
The Warsaw Uprising was a retarded idea, but similar actions carried out by AK and other organizations in other parts of Poland and other countries weren't, even if the people who carried them out were doomed to die.

>It was protection treaty not declaring war treaty.
Fine. I see no source but I'll assume you're right. Even then the treaty was the final nail in the coffin for Poland because we had joined the Franco-British camp which was considered hostile for Hitler despite our own diplomatic polish efforts to "flirt" with him instead.
There was nothing to do at this point. Our diplomats had fucked up.

I agree with you and again, I wasn't talking about the Warsaw uprising (I don't know much about it either). My point was about Czechoslovakia deciding not to fight when it was completely hopeless anyway

We could have attack them from everywhere. Britain nothern western front
France southern western czechs and Austrians (in uprising) from South and Poland from east but no one cares until they got directly attacked. And if that treaty was fucked up what was the alternative? Join Hitler and pray that they won't exterminate as when they won like czechs did?

>My point was about Czechoslovakia deciding not to fight when it was completely hopeless anyway
Yup, nothing to add

They should have sign the treaty with Poland.

They were fighting because they saw hope in allies and the citizens wanted revenge on germans hece they fought in 1944 not in 1942 (that would be foolish)

From today's perspective it was foolish, but from their perspective it was needed.

>Join Hitler and pray that they won't exterminate as when they won like czechs did?

Czechia was under german occupation like us
Hungary wasn't. Name one nazi crime commited on hungarian people. You can't. Hitler wasn't just a madman but also a tactician who needed allies more than he needed enemies.

>but no one cares until they got directly attacked

Welcome to geopolitics

Czechoslovakia fought and had a resistance, and they organize Prague Uprising in the similar time, just the fact that Prague Uprising was fought by the commie partisans and the Warsaw Uprising was fought by the Home Army hostile to the Soviets.

They picked up wrong time. While the hitler was engaged in Warsaw uprising they had no time to react in the Prague uprising.

But Hitler didn't won retard. If he did Hungarians would be exterminated too probably.

That was a stupid decision from France and Britain they underestimated Hitler.

You know what was to Hitler mercy for non Aryans who help him? Germanize them and forbid them from making children and no education other than elementary.

>probably

You don't know and I don't know. Let's build a time machine and ask him.

Jebać to, idę spać.
Dzięki za dyskusję anonku.

>they underestimated him
So it would have been better to send their soldiers away from their own borders to a different country? France had enough problems dealing with Hitler on their own because they thought le maymay WWI plan will work again and he totally WON'T go through Belgium.

>Czechoslovakia fought and had a resistance, and they organize Prague Uprising in the similar time
thats absolutely not true. Where are you getting that? Prague uprising started few days before german capitulation. In fact Germany was mostly occupied, while bulk of Bohemia was still under wehrmacht occupation (because both Americans and Red Army were racing mainly towards Berlin).

Germans in east Bohemia wanted to escape to american custody through Prague when Czechs started the uprising. There was some brutal fighting, Vlassov army stationed there switched sides and joined the uprising (to save their skins. It didnt work) and it the end the short uprising was pretty much crushed. But germans still needed clear way to make it to American zone in time so their threathened to firebomb Prague with their remaining stukas. Czechs pooped their pants and let germans go. The uprising started on 5th may 1945 and german surrender was signed on 7th, with 2 days grace period to stop fighting. It was literally nothing

Hitler attacked France a year after Poland if I remember it right.

No such thing done to Hungarians, Croats, Romanians, Italians, Finns, all considered non aryans by the Nazis
Nazi racial ideology was inconsistent bullshit (surprise surprise)
When it benefitted him Hitler didn't follow his own rules

Exactly and even one year after they still didn't have the manpower or technology to defeat him. It wouldn't change a thing.

But he DIDNT win those were plans after he won.

source?
the planned ebin großgermania didn't include these countries.

Shouldn't have waited. Hitler couldn't fight on several fronts especially with his tactics.

I don't really remember where I have read it. Btw I am exhausted try Google or st

>especially with his tactics
his tactics worked fine until the Americans and Soviets started outproducing him in tanks and cut off any possible oil supplies from Northern Africa.