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norwegian is just a retarded dialect of danish
more like a Norse-Low German pidgin language
explain
Witch in it self is retarded. And a double negative because a positive.
Danish is just retarded Norwegian, and Swedish is just gay Norwegian.
I've heard lots of Danish, and it really does kind of sound like one has a mouth full of food when spoken. Norwegian and Swedish are rhythmic, which is odd to me also
what do you mean explain
Modern Scandinavian languages arose out of contact with Low German during the height of the North Sea and Baltic trade of the Hanseatic League, among other trading entities. That's one of the reasons they're simplified grammatically as compared to Norse or modern Icelandic or Faroese, which is a bit artificially archaic regardless of what Icelanders claim
while western Norwegian dialects tend to retain more of their older western Scandinavian features, this was attempted to be represented in Nynorsk, they're still grammatically simplified
youre literally just repeating memes from Jow Forums stop being a monolingual tard and learn Norwegian, its the most useful of the scandinavian dialects because you can understand the other dialects swedish and danish, and yes they are all dialects of each other and are mutually understandable more so than between German dialects
that isnt really a pidgin language. A pidgin language would be for example how english language came to be. You had french rulers and Anglo peasants trying to communicate with each other which resulted in in a mix of french and anglo , which later evolved to this creole language of french we call English.
Also your theory doesnt make sense, since low german has a more difficult grammar than Scandinavian languages
>Scandinavian languages
>Useful
There are some theories English is in fact a North Germanic language.
Low German does sound closer to English. For some reason Germans speak High German.
>Also your theory doesnt make sense, since low german has a more difficult grammar than Scandinavian languages
>that isnt really a pidgin language.
I don't think you know what a pidgin language is
I'm using "pidgin" hyperbolically as it obviously isn't; but, pidginization causes a simplification of grammar between two languages to facilitate communication through a merged trade language showing features of both or more languages
this isn't my theory this is the history of modern scandinavian languages
>I was just using the term pidgin wrong on purpose,lads
>you didnt correct me
wew lad.
>pidginization causes a simplification of grammar between two languages to facilitate communication through a merged trade language showing features of both or more languages
you just described English, but Im going to sound like I am contradicting myself here but just because there was simplification of a language doesnt mean it was because it was a pidgin language at one point, and likewise just because Old Norse had contact with Low German doesnt mean it was a pidgin language.
Low German is kind of the weird loser language of history
somehow going from a sociolect to being considered an inferior variant of essentially a different but related language. I guess you can blame the printing press
a similar process of merging that occurred between Norse or rather it's later descendants and Middle Low German likely occurred in Northern England between Old English and Norse. English has a lot of loan words from Norse that are suspiciously simple, rather than fulfilling a need for words that weren't pre-existing and it's hypothesized that the simplification of the grammatical case and gender began with Norse contact rather than with Norman French
The saying goes a language has an army and a navy. Scandis basically speak a dialect of the same Icelandic language.
>There are some theories English is in fact a North Germanic language.
what theory is that? I mean the majority of evidence points to that, and you dont even have to be a linguist to see how related Frisian is to Old English. In fact old English or Saxon use to cover areas of north west germany, netherlands. In the middle ages Old english or Saxon was still mutually intelligible to some continental dialects of Saxon
>americans discussing scandinavian linguistics
some evidence
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And if you notice, British English dialects sound ultra Germanic at times, especially the least comprehensible ones.
>British English dialects sound ultra Germanic at times
yeah because english is a germanic languages but not a low German one nor scandinavian one.
saying a language sounds like another language is very subjective. But it's been proven already that old english along with dutch didnt have a Consonant shift the way low german did, which explains why english sounds more dutch than german.
en.wikipedia.org
of course there still exist to this day english dialects that have more norse influence than other english dialects, if thats what youre referring too
Shit I meant to say english is a germanic language but not a high german language, english sounds more like low german because of the consonant shift youre right about that lad
Technically Dutch and Low German are not too far apart at all.
I watched a fucking eight hour movie from Denmark and saw for myself, hush now
autism
I agree with you 100% , I got confused and mixed up low german with high german. Yeah supposedly low german, dutch , and old english were once one language stretching from north germany to south east england.
I am just a nigga who loves languages.
You need to study Scandinavian languages buddy. They are so basic. Their word choice is so little since they didn’t borrow as much Latin as us.
That guy is retarded.
why
It takes high Jow Forumselligence to know how languages work. Speak their language and get their girls.
ma nigga right here.
I like the attention
*brofist*
The theory is that the Old Saxon dialects died out and the Scandinavian influence was so heavy that it virtually replaced the language extant to present. I think the theory is appealing in large part because English bears very little superficial resemblance to Frisian, its official closest relative, even without the Latin loanwords. You can see where the researchers are coming from.
What is really interesting though is that few people are aware how rare and anomalous the English use of the word "are" as a third-person plural is. Are is a very old Scandinavian word, from Old Norse (modern Swedish är or vara, Old Norse vera). The Old English equivalent was sind or bent, to be, in parts of south western rural England you still find elderly people who'll say, "yes, we be". It is not typical to see a word as integral to a language as this one replaced by a foreign loanword. At some point very early in the history of the English language, the aron (are) form predominated over sind, we don't know why, and we don't know where it originally came from, it's believed to have been introduced from the Northumbrian dialect through to the south, but from where and at what speed it somehow transmitted through Northumbrian we cannot say. In fact Northumbrian is an anomaly in itself, in that it has sometimes shown *more* Scandinavian features the more ancient the example, Caedmon's Hymn has word forms believed to be cognate to Old Norse that long predate even the onset of the Viking Age. So there is a lot about English that is very difficult to unravel, even at its earliest when things should be clearer.
they're useless languages since 90% of them speak english anyway
>f south western rural England you still find elderly people who'll say, "yes, we be".
interesting, in southeaster USA , people also say "we be out chea mane" instead of we are out here
but seriously I dont doubt what you said at the end , english is one big language orgy that is hard to unravel. But I still think at least from what I've studied english is still related more to dutch than a north germanic language.
Yeah, the dialects that still use be in that sense are essentially preserving the oldest Saxon features of the English language. It's cognate to the modern German wir sind.
>Yeah, the dialects that still use be in that sense are essentially preserving the oldest Saxon features of the English language. It's cognate to the modern German wir
you know , now that I think about it, hearing old english sounds a lot more scandinavian than dutch or frisian. and saxon tribes were literally in modern day denmark. so that theory makes more sense now