Why aren't they apart of Greece? aren't most of the people who live there Greek?

He indeed condemned the coup, probably not a kike but before all that, he could have still achieved the unification but he didn't. Some of his actions (opening to the soviets) plus the anglos false flagging the t*rkocypriots in order to destabilize the island, made the unification harder than it should have been. And then, Ioannidis (CIA puppet) did the one thing that he shouldn't have done: gave an open and direct reason for the t*rks as guaranteers of peace (t. our incompetent foreign policy) to invade in order to establish peace to the island. Also, in the beginning, before indepedence he (probably) wanted unification, but later, especially as a politician he was flip-floping in this matter.
The island was colonised from antiquity (Arcado-cyprian), but for the most part the colonisers were men, so they went there and GREEK'D some levantine qt's.

does Cyprus have any known Levantine heritage left or was it completely GREEK'D?

>Why aren't they apart of Greece?

but... they ARE [apart] from Greece...

There are the Maronites, Arabs who stayed christian and are not native to the islands. From what I know there was an eteocyprian (means true cypriot in ancient greek) language in antiquity, and in present day, the dialect has very limited influence from arabic. Their accents are close to levantine languages, according to some

Meh, there are some Cypriots who don't like us, yet speak the same language (albeit butchered to the point of half-intelligibility). They deserve being thrown to the sea much more than Turkish Cypriots (excluding Turkish settlers after the invasion).

Cyprus is a lost cause. Then again, Greece is a lost cause too.

Most of my compatriots make me feel ashamed, not because they don't resemble the West, but because they try too hard to be like other nations. And they don't educate themselves about their history and their ancestors. Seriously, I know some "Greeks" descended from Asia Minor who believe they're Greek and can't recall a single accomplishment of our ancient ancestors. They're the types who go to Canada and Australia and the only thing they know about Greece is sirtaki, souvlaki and Santorini. Disgrace.

>Cyprus is a lost cause
For the unification only. They're doing relatively fine, we should become their vassal

Meh, they've got lots of leftists, we'll need to turn them all to soap. Too much of a hassle, if you ask me. But I see the merit in your proposal.

We don't need to get our hands dirty, APOEL ultras would gladly do the job for us without a single Ελλαδίτη having to go there. And they could help us here too, we also have a big problem with leftist faggotry.

>Meh, they've got lots of leftists, we'll need to turn them all to soap.
You've been spending too much time on Jow Forums.

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huh, interesting. i always thought Cyprus was greek through all of history.
also they're technically not arabs if their native tongue isn't arabic. the whole arab identity is based on language, not necessarily ethnicity.
by levantine language im assuming you mean Syriac or something like that?

>they're technically not arabs
You're talking about the Maronites?
>by levantine language
I said languageS but yes since they are right across the coast from the Middle East, through trade and middle eastern rulers for a long time, the language and local culture in general has some influences. Αbout the accent's proximity, listen and judge for yourself, I don't find it close youtube.com/watch?v=exw1ugxTwUs

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Literally because greeks are incompetent retards who think they're 200IQ chess players when in reality they're sub-70IQ uphill shit farmers. They couldn't achieve unity with the tiny minority of turks on the island while they had a functioning govt, because 'muh enosis' and 'muh hellenism' which meant cyprus was for the greeks. Makarios continually said he didn't buy into that shit yet he himself didn't treat the turks on the islands as equals. When greece started sneaking in Eoka terrorists on to the island (cypriots somehow always forget this when they cry turkeys invasion in '74 was illegal), it was pretty much all over. Villages of people were being slaughtered from both sides and the attempted coup would be the nail in the coffin - giving turkey the best reason to intervene and take control of a third of the island.

Fast forward 44 years and the greeks have the exact same attitude. They dont see turks as their equals and continue to thwart any attempt at unification. But it doesnt matter anymore because turkey imported thousands of people into the island after the coup, which means turks are no longer a tiny minority, and a whole generation of new cypriot turks now call the island home.

This user is right in that cyprus is a source of shame for greeks. It would be for anyone, really.

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>Most of my compatriots make me feel ashamed, not because they don't resemble the West, but because they try too hard to be like other nations. And they don't educate themselves about their history and their ancestors.

t. literal boomer

only decent reply in this thread

>eoka terrorists
EOKA did nothing wrong
>Mirbagheri 2009, σελ. xiv: «Greek Cypriots engaged in a military campaign for enosis, union with Greece. Turkish Cypriots, in response, expressed their desire for taksim, partition of the island.»"
And if you lost any relatives there, it was 100% justified. And you're misinformed too, so this text has nothing of value really, you conviniently forget the anglo false flaging the turkocypriots. So fuck off, you're worse than the jews

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>EOKA did nothing wrong
Perfectly encapsulates the sub-70IQ greek mental capacity I talked about. Imagine saying the terrorist group that fucked everything up for the greeks on the island 'did nothing wrong'.

Of all the events that took place on the island in regards to this, the most justified will always be '74. Never forget that, filos. Also don't forget to bring your passport if you wanna see your old house in the north.

Kara BOGA prevented it

First of all, you anglos wanted the turks as equals in the island to begin with. Second, if you weren't propagandizing, you'd make the distinction between EOKA and EOKA B, but being the bastard that you are, you conviniently forget about this again, as well as who took advantage of the problems between the communities to stirr up shit. Also, EOKA B was funded by the CIA, and we know that thanks to Henry Tasca, ambassador of the US in Greece, so it wasn't muh Greeks as you said and Makarios also supported that notion. Also the Junta at that time in Greece was also backed by the CIA for containing communists, Makarios opened up to the Soviets and the US didn't like and the coup happened in Cyprus so take your disinfo and shove it up your ass, but not before killing yourself.

Far as I see it, there was an agreement that Cyprus wouldn't join either Turkey or Greece, and Greece broke that agreement, so Turkey held up her end of the deal. I reckon there's nothing to complain about.

>Difference between Eoka and Eoka B
Griva Dickheadi set both of them up. How come you didn't know that?
>it wasn't muh greeks
Talk about disinfo
cyprus-mail.com/2018/04/01/cyprus-marks-eoka-anniversary/
Yeah - that was this fucking year.
>the coup happened because the CIA
Now that's some impressive historical revisionism. Greece totally didn't fucking support enosis and send troops to join eoka, right? You're impressively delusional, but that's just the greek way.

>Griva Dickheadi set both of them up. How come you didn't know that?
EOKA B was indepedent from the 1st, didn't have popular support, and happened during the Junta, which was backed by the CIA through operation Gladio, the Greek part called Provia
>Talk about disinfo
EOKA had support from the legitimate democratic government to btfo your ilk from the island, EOKA B had support of the CIA-supported Junta of the colonels. When will you stop being happy with shiting up the world, anglo?

>EOKA B was indepedent from the 1st
Man get the fuck out of here with your retarded bullshit. So what the fuck happened to all the members of eoka then? Did they just vanish? Who the fuck do you think made up Eoka B? If it didn't have popular support, why didn't Makarios appeal to Greece and tell them to knock it off, or send troops to help neutralize them? The only people you can fool with your shitty head canon are people who don't know shit about Cyprus and greeks.

hmmm
>EOKA had support from the legitimate democratic government to btfo your ilk from the island, EOKA B had support of the CIA-supported Junta of the colonels
Makarios knew about CIA funding EOKA B, who would help him? The ones (CIA and CIA controlled dictatorship) who funded a terrorist organization against him?? And the failure to achieve Enosis was the pretext that was used to rally EOKA B against Makarios. EOKA fought to take out you cunts from the island and unify with Greece. Failing to achieve the second goal, the CIA had a great excuse to rally EOKA B against Makarios, who was opening relations with the soviets, something that the CIA wasn't happy about, since they had said Operation Gladio running.

I don't care about your head canon. Just tell me where eoka members went after eoka B was established. According to you, they're two different groups, so surely they would have had different leaders and soldiers, no?

If Makarios didn't open to the Soviets, no EOKA B would be needed, so no CIA funds and no terrorism. And EOKA B had fewer members than EOKA

>If Makarios didn't open to the Soviets, no EOKA B would be needed
You're wrong, and really need to let go of the CIA narrative. Eoka was founded on the principle of enosis. Eoka B continued that idea, but this time had complete disregard for Makarios because he wasn't playing along. Please don't pretend otherwise.

The only thing that needed to happen is the CIA not imposing the 1967 regime. Too late, Cyprus is lost.

> A Greek saying that Cyprus has a leftist problem...

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EOKA B was short sighted and the Sampson coup was a half-baked disaster, but you are acting like the coup was supported by most Greek-Cypriots (which it wasn't).

You're also conveniently leaving out that Kissinger orchestrated the entire coup and Turkish invasion.

how did the population exchange between turkey and greece affect greece

Aussie is just trolling at this point. Comparing EOKA to EOKA B is incredibly naive, and Makarios fucking outlawed EOKA B because he knew how delicate the political balance in Cyprus was.

The role of the CIA and Kissinger's State department in the entire debacle cannot be overstated.

>but you are acting like the coup was supported by most Greek-Cypriots
This may be true but it's also irrelevant. Obviously no one wants the collapse of their own govt. That doesn't change the fact that the populous was in favour of enosis, and supported eoka initially. Eoka B is the expected result of a group having enough fire power to do as they please.
>You're also conveniently leaving out that Kissinger orchestrated the entire coup and Turkish invasion.
Good luck finding evidence to corroborate this - even Christopher Hitchens couldn't do it. You're delusional, as is your other post (). If 'Comparing EOKA to EOKA B is incredibly naive', then answer my question

They are apart of Greece.

>answer my question

Yes, plenty of members from the original EOKA were part of EOKA B, just as much of the Al Qaeda leadership were part of Bin Laden's Mujahedeen; but trying to compare either situation without looking at the contemporary geostrategic situation, much less who was funding and instigating EOKA B is stupid. Everybody I know from my grandparents' generation was involved with EOKA, they all condemned EOKA B.

>Eoka B is the expected result of a group having enough fire power to do as they please

Even when said firepower comes from a hostile foreign nation that directly contradicts the will of the democratically elected Cypriot govt?

>Good luck finding evidence to corroborate this - even Christopher Hitchens couldn't do it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kissinger_cables

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger#Turkish_invasion_of_Cyprus

Not acting on evidence is absolutely not the same as orchestrating it. Also the idea that the US would have been able to stop Turkey's invasion is just as flawed. Turkey had plenty of legal and humanitarian justification to invade, and it's fucking retarded to think the US would have been able to mobilize in time to stop Turkey from invading. Once again, this is why Hitchens dismissed this notion of Kissinger having the power to stop the invasion, even less so about orchestrating it.

>plenty of members from the original EOKA were part of EOKA B
>but trying to compare either situation without looking at the contemporary geostrategic situation...is stupid
This is why I don't argue with greeks on the matter. There's no point. You're all so deluded into thinking the man that created the two groups and who share the same soldiers and leaders are somehow so radically different to each other that they're virtually unrelated. But guess what? That doesn't even enter into because Eoka was based on enosis, and so was Eoka B. Both of them were enemies of the Turkish monitory, and one of them additionally ended up being an enemy of the whole of cyprus. They were both fundamentally hostile organizations, but 44 years on you still refuse to admit that. Even more, you still honour their memory and act like it's not a problem for unification (not that that's possible anymore).

You are missing my point entirely. EOKA B was disastrous from the get-go, I don't think we diasgree on this.

I am also not denying Turkey was justified in its invasion; it was completely legal under the Treaty of Guarantee. And Kissinger was not worried about trying to stop the Turkish invasion, he banked on the Greek coup being the cassus belli that would lead to the Turkish invasion. Thinking that the Cyprus conflict was merely a struggle between Greece and Turkey, while ignoring the much larger geostrategic interests of the US (namely checking Cyprus's leadership role in the Non-Aligned movement and its overtures to the Soviets).

If you talk to an actual Cypriot who doesn't larp with ΕΛΑΜ they will tell you that Cyprus was a victim of both Greece and Turkey; many Greek-Cypriots were just useful stooges because of their desire for Enosis. But the invasion was directly triggered by (arguably justified) Turkish actions to counter a Greek/CIA coup that failed almost immediatetly and was condemned by the Cypriot govt. It was not the direct result of actions taken by the Cypriot govt. Furthermore, the actual Turkish landgrab of the island only occurred later in '74, after the coup had already failed; the failed coup was (however justified) still just a pretext for Turkish interests.

I wasn't missing the point, you're just being a lot more measured in your discussion now, unlike the other guy (and most other cypriots). Turkey has never and will never let go of Cyprus, one for its proximity and two for its history. This is why Makarios should have found the solution, but instead he ignored propping up the turkish cypriots as equals, lets enosis ideals prosper and Eoka to be created. All of this could have been avoided, but the greek stooges you speak of acted like Turkey was 600kms away instead of 60 and wouldn't respond by force. I've never stood for the land grab and mass rape turkey and the turkish military did, but again, that's an effect, and not a cause. What gets me is the continued refusal of greek cypriots to treat turks as their equals today. 44 years on and they still honour the memory of Eoka. They have no interest in unification, yet pretend like they do. One way or another, they carry that old world's mentality, and that's unacceptable.

that's what they want in Cyprus

Greeks are Greek

what have Brits done?

I am more Greek than most Greeks

this is a lebanese
most of them hate Greeks
probably because Greeks are all what they want to be

at least immigrants like him make it easier for white people to ignore his posts

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there is no kara boga
the blacks in turkey only sell trash to people and survive only by their kindness
they pretend to be religious and people give them free stuff because of that

Why are all Canadians faggots?

no now i remember
its one of those catholic arab gypsies from Cyprus
i bet half of the insults behind australian flags against Greeks were yours

>brits ask for america to install a greek dictatorship in greece in order to fake a greek invasion so turkey can justify invading, in order to keep their bases safe and as revenge against the cypriot resistance against their rule
This is the truth, I just know it. I dare you to prove me wrong.

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bump

why?

He's OP, and probably wants some fights like the one I had with that mystery meat under Aussie flag.

why not?, bump

plus i haven't seen even one Cyprus flag yet that's why

i think Cypriots are fine to live in a rich country with lax tax laws instead of being part of bankrupt Greece and pay endless debts

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slavic inferiority complex
Greece is not bankrupt because it is too white and too wealthy to fall

but we don't have J1 haplo though

>Meh, they've got lots of leftists
our leftists are the laughing stock of our nation, every time they had the power they always fucked up.

Cyprus is primarily a right-wing nation, and I believe the prime reason for that is because we are constantly reminded of the Turkish atrocities.

>propping up the turkish cypriots as equals
Explain to me why should a minority that is only 18% of the population has to have the same power as the majority, despite the fact that it's different culturally and would only cause problems for the rest of the people

forgot to mention, Grivas publicly stated that he wouldn't harm Turkish Cypriots at the beginning of EOKA's struggle because his targets were the Anglos. It was only after the Turkish Cypriots became Anglo bootlickers that the hostilities rose.

Ασ'τον αυτόν, δεν θέλει να ξεχωρίσει τον ΕΟΚΑ απ τον ΕΟΚΑ Β. Επίσης Βιkιπαίδεια αναφέρει τα Σεπτεμβριανά της Κωνσταντινούπολης σαν αρχή των εχθροπραξιών εναντίων των τούρkων στην Κύπρο, φαντάζομαι θα έπαιξε k αυτό kάποιο ρόλο

what's living in your country like?, is it comfy?, also is it possible for people to cross the UN buffer zone into North Cyprus or is it like North Korea where you get shot on site if you go to close?

ask Solomos Solomou

Cyprus isn't exactly a tax heaven like Ireland, they have massive offshore that will never allow them to go Bankrupt. Everyone with a ship registers in Cyprus because they have the english system and they're in the med. They also have massive tourism.

It's nice and it's easy to cross with a passport. Cyprus is probably the only respectable middle eastern country despite being a divided banana republic.

Yeah we're developed enough. Not western Europe developed, but not eastern Europe developed either.
>also is it possible for people to cross the UN buffer zone into North Cyprus
yeah just show them an ID and they'l let you through.

lol Limassol is a gigantic tax heaven for Russians. Hell it might as well be a Russian city at this point

EOKA B was a mistake

You love your history, so let me remind you - Cyprus was Ottoman clay until it was literally stolen by the anglos and in turn, by you. But Turkey was fine with that much also, because it was still a guarantor power and had a presence on the island. It wasn't until Grivas and co started fucking slaughtering civilians and eoka b performing a coup that Turkey invaded.

So to answer your question about the 18%, just look at the map. Instead of being equals with 18%, you've lost more than 18% of the island, and will never ever get it back. Was it worth it? Because for us, the invasion most definitely was.

such a hateful arab dog

turks chimped out

>roach boasting about stolen clay
lmao stopped reading right there

>greek Cypriot can’t mount a counter argument
44 years the same, not surprised filos.

Why would I waste my time arguing with a delusional roach who thinks that any land occupied by the Ottomans is legitimate Turkish clay?

>literally stolen
You sold it to them, dumb shit roach, you sold them an island that wasn't even majority populated by you and they fought for it's independence after which the guarantor treaties were irrelevant because the angols fucked off. Are you braindead?

List of countries that are rightfully Greek and should be re-incorporated into neo-Byzantine empire:
>Cyprus
>Turkey
>Albania
>FYROM
>Bulgaria (plus Dobrogea)
>Serbia (minus Vojvodina)
>Kosovo
>Bosnia
>Montenegro
>Croatia

List of Greeks that are retards
>all of them(minus islanders in tourist areas)

don't insult Greeks you inferior creature

this