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Why / How did you lose Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua and Casta Rica?

we gave them independence

Why?

They voted to leave, and not to join the new mexican republic, all of them but Chiapas
And Costa Rica's vote never arrived so they were kicked out
First of many many mistakes to come in the tragic history of this place

thank god mexico is small now

Why do Aztlanfags never seen to want Central America back? :^)

underrated

>start war you can't win
>lose war
>lose clay
>so unfair

>Only central america

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They voted to leave and we just kinda roll with it.

Its here everyone
The revisionist butthurt american is here
Butthurt even in victory

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i unirinically want the central americans countries to be annexed more than i want the southwestern usa

>muh territorio perdido
Stupid faggots, that was a long ago. Who cares?

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Why? They're monkeys.

basado

Monkeys live in Haiti and Brazil.

Did "Mexico" every control all that or "New Spain"?

no

We were still discussing it when Iturbide got kicked out. It's funny, we even had a mini civil war

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Mexico recognized your independence before you even knew you were independent, I know.

costa ricans like us, r-right? they are not like the other central american countries, or im a wrong?

Chicano here
thank God gringos won
I can only imagine life where decapitated bodies hang from the 5 freeway overpass was the norm

All Latin Americans hate us because American media tells the world all Latin Americans are exactly like all the shit stereotypes Fox News loves to parrot about Mexico. Besides, they are way more similar to Colombia, since in the times of the colony they didn't have people living there and they got later a lot of Colombian immigrants.

Had Americans not won, your retarded puritanism from the 20s wouldn't have spread worldwide, drugs would be legal like they used to be and cartels wouldn't exist.

You're ok to me

>Had Americans not won, your retarded puritanism from the 20s wouldn't have spread worldwide, drugs would be legal like they used to be and cartels wouldn't exist.

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>Long ago
>Mutts invade Mexico (ilegally)
>Mexico loses and accept its defeat

>present day
>Mex*cans invade Muttland by tens of millions
>Mutts don't do anything but complain about it

why?

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Drug prohibition started in the US when alcohol prohibition failed. Coke was not only legal but used in fucking soda, marihuana was used to make books, heroine was used as fucking cough syrup, etc. Your retarded puritanism was against everything, even masturbation. Other countries just started copying you afterwards.

Fucking Corn Flakes were made as a part of an anti-Masturbation campaign.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harvey_Kellogg#Masturbation_prevention

>Mutts invade Mexico (ilegally)
It was a war. That's kind of what you do in a war. You invade the other guy's turf with your army and occupy his capital so he cries uncle and surrenders.

are you baiting or are you actually this retarded?

Americans learn next to nothing about the Mexican-America war back in school.

I'm not sure about the current ones but in previous generations we never were taught about the ''collapse'' of the 1st Mexican empire, we just know that Iturbide was killed by a firing squad and that the eternal struggle for power began after that.

In school I learned about Santa Anna, Vicente Guerrero, Guadalupe Victoria and Nicolas Bravo plan to overthrow him, followed by the dissolution of the First Mexican Empire, and the secession of Central America was mentioned as a part of that in like a single paragraph, noting that no war was ever fought as a result of that. And lastly Iturbide's execution for violating his exile when he learned Spain was going to invade us again.

Iturbide didn't return to warn about that shitty invassion, he was a traitorous selfish fuck.

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He did, though. Only out of self-interest and trying to end his exile and maybe get back to power, because he really was a traitorous selfish fuck, but he returned because of that.

We learned how badly we took a steaming pile of shit in your collective mouth lmfao

owned EPIC STYLE with LOGIC and FACTS amirite XDDD

Imagine what kind of place that would be
Yikes

So basically here's what happens.

>Mexico is a new and barely stable cunt with nonstop coups and changes of government every six months
>they can't populate Texas because it's full of savage Comanches
>so white American settlers from the South are invited to settle there if they accept Mexican citizenship and convert to Catholicism
>they want to keep slaves which is banned in Mexico on paper if not in practice since the hacienda system is virtual slavery
>there's no roads linking Mexico City to Texas nor can the Mexican army police the area from Comanche raids especially since it's mostly a tool of various political factions in the capital
>Santa Anna makes himself dictator and revokes the constitution
>this leads to the Texas Revolution
>after the ragtag Texan army loses several engagements with the Mexican army, they capture Santa Anna asleep at San Jacinto and force him to sign a treaty acknowledging Texan independence under threat of hanging
>the Mexican Congress rules the treaty null and void because it was made under duress
>although Mexico still won't recognize the independence of Texas, they largely leave them alone for the next several years
>meanwhile, a Texan attack on Santa Fe, New Mexico is repulsed in 1841
>the US dillydallies on annexing Texas because of not wanting to add a new slave state to the union
>the French grant diplomatic recognition to Texas which leads to a growing worry about Texas being used as a springboard for European expansionism into North America

>President Tyler signs a bill authorizing the annexation of Texas on his final day as president in March 1845
>new president James Polk offers to purchase New Mexico and California, but Mexico refuses and also continues to maintain that Texas is their clay
>US and Mexican troops enter the disputed border area each hoping to provoke a showdown--the Mexicans fire first, and Congress declares war on Mexico
>Zachary Taylor's army defeats the Mexicans and occupies north Mexico
>other US troops take control of New Mexico and move west into California, absorbing a short-lived republic proclaimed by American settlers
>Mexico still won't surrender despite being in a state of near anarchy with multiple states in revolt
>it becomes necessary now to invade Mexico proper, which is done by Winfield Scott's army
>they crush the Mexicans in every engagement and occupy Mexico City in October 1847
>the Treaty of Guadelupe Hidalgo is signed which confirms the cession of all Mexican territory north of the Rio Grande, for which Mexico is paid back a couple million for the territory and the US also agrees to protect the border from Indian raids
The end.

Cartel member spotted.

>my country is an unironic third world shithole
>yes let's take even more land
Great idea

Cartels would love nothing more than keeping drugs illegal forever, it's the source of 99% of their income.

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Drugs should never be legal and anyone who sells them should be hanged like they do in Asian cunts.

To be fair, most of the Mexicans here are caricatures so that's probably why.

After the war we paid for the territories btw, so we didn't steal.

Santa Ana was just stupid enough to sell them to us.

^This. I lost some good people I knew to heroin the last few years.

WTF I though heroin was illegal, why weren't the saved?

You are ok for us. We only hate you when we play football, after that is alright

(it's time yet again)

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The OP is probably the Mexico is White guy anyway.

All of those are right though. It's not our fault Mexicans are unwise and insecure.

I unironically have zero issues with Mexicans. It'd be great if we could join forces, and rid every place in the western hemisphere of the black plague, yellow fever, and shekel flu.

>cucktholic scum trying to claim land

>>so white American settlers from the South are invited to settle there if they accept Mexican citizenship and convert to Catholicism
we didn't invite them, they asked permission to spain
>>they want to keep slaves which is banned in Mexico on paper if not in practice since the hacienda system is virtual slavery
they were allowed to have slaves, they just weren't allowed to bring or buy/sell more
>>after the ragtag Texan army loses several engagements with the Mexican army, they capture Santa Anna asleep at San Jacinto and force him to sign a treaty acknowledging Texan independence under threat of hanging
the treaties of velasco didn't recognize texas' independence, it was just an armistice

other than thas is an ok resume, you forgot to mention that the us builded a fort in the rio grande, and they were purposely trying to make mexicans look like the aggressor
nope, i made this thread in reference to that /gsg/ meme
fuck off

Also California and New Mexico were in revolt. They were populated by Spanish settlers who didn't want anything to do with Mexico for the most part and had been attempting to break away and declare independence after realizing that Mexico couldn't protect them from Indian raids.

After the transfer of the Southwest to the US, the local population were offered US citizenship which 90% of them accepted. All in all, the entire settled population of California and New Mexico at this time was no more than about 25,000 people and the future metropolises of California like Los Angeles and San Francisco (Yerba Buena back at that time) were little more than villages with a few hundred people in them.

>ilegally

But you did invite them to settle in Texas. I mean, if you're retarded, you're retarded and obviously get what's coming to you.

jesus fucking christ we didn't invite them

also, he's referring to the ones that came after immigration was banned, which were more than the ones that came legally

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Mexico's army was also laughably bad--they had no native armaments industry and their equipment was old European surplus, mostly rusted junk from the Napoleonic Wars. Mexican powder and shells were poor quality and often didn't work. There were about 130 cannons in the entire country, most scattered in various outposts and the poor road network made it very difficult to get them to the front lines. Officers were aristocratic Crillos who issued orders in Spanish that could not be understood by illiterate Indian conscripts. Only the cavalry was considered to be of good quality.

The US Army lost 12,000 men in the war, but only about 1100 were battlefield casualties, most died of tropical diseases like malaria and yellow fever. Mexican casualties are unknown.

California also had excellent natural harbors, there was the real risk of Britain, France, or Russia seizing it if we didn't get there first.

It wasn't until Porifiro Diaz that Mexico had an adequate road network and the countryside was made safe and cleared of bandits and highwaymen.

They moved there because you gave the de facto control of the land to the legal migrants, did you expect them not to bring more of them just because some new law in Mexico city says they can't?

Lel

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1. They deal was made with Spain, not Mexico.
2. The only reason the deal was even made was because the fucking Apaches (nomadic invaders from the great planes) were attacking everyone, including the actual natives of the land. Which Texas didn't do, and Mexico banned them, defeated them (remember the Alamo?) until Santa Anna was retarded enough to venture recklessly into Texas and got captured. Which automatically made everyone in the congress invalidate anything he said. It was a matter of time before the Mexican army regrouped and captured Texas again. Having to deal with multiple illegal American aliens and filibusters elsewhere.
3. Polk decided to stage "an attack in American soil" and justify war with Mexico, which we all know the result.

Honestly we should just take Canada

>they capture Santa Anna asleep at San Jacinto
BAS-
>they don't kill him
FAGGOTS

How horrid

This desu
You tried

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812#American_expansionism

>It was a matter of time before the Mexican army regrouped and captured Texas again.
I doubt they could have done so given Mexico's unstable political condition and the army being used as a political weapon by different factions.

Against ONLY Texas without intervention from Polk? They did in several battles.

Anyone have the "what could have been" meme with the german empire?

>We dindu NUFFIN!

Literally you.

>1. They deal was made with Spain, not Mexico.

There had been one land grant made by Spain prior to 1821, which was given to Moses Austin, the father of Stephen Austin, and the Mexican Congress not only recognized it as valid, they then gave out more land grants.

>Fucking Corn Flakes were made as a part of an anti-Masturbation campaign.
WOW

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> California; 423,970 km2
>New Mexico; 315,198 km2
>All in all, the entire settled population of California and New Mexico at this time was no more than about 25,000 people
>Fucking Greece had a population of more than a million back at 1860

>Many (estimate of about 1 in 70 being the national average for 1860[93]) of the Anglo-American settlers owned slaves. Mexico granted Texas a one-year exemption from the national edict of 1829 edict outlawing slavery, but Mexican president Anastasio Bustamante ordered that all slaves be freed in 1830.[94][95] To circumvent the law, the colonists converted their slaves into indentured servants "for life."[96] By 1836 there were 5,000 enslaved African Americans in Texas.[97]

And then immigration was banned because Texans never satisfied their part of the deal (settle near Mexican Cities? Nope. Convert to Catholicism? Nope. End slavery? Nope, etc) All of which was agreed by them. Which leads us to Texas declaring independence by a bunch of illegal immigrants who had only lived in Texas for a single year.

That one
We need a version with OP pics

1. It's a huge fucking desert with no know mineral reserves at the time who was constantly raided by Apaches (nomadic invaders akin to fucking mongols once they got a hold of horses)
2. Having scarcely populated areas inside countries isn't rare, even today. 56% of all land in Colombia only houses 2% of the entire population.
3. Mexico, total, just had a population of a couple million.

Some of the Texan settlers were also Freemasons which was banned by the Mexican government because the Catholic Church was hostile to Freemasonry.

Mexico had approximately 7 million people in 1846 and about 80% of them lived in the Aztec heartland in the central plateau.

No, i am not implying anything, i am just impressed. Also Greece is one of the top three most mountainous countries in Europe, 80% of the land is just rock and a fair percent are islands, most of the population even back then lived at coastal cities.