Why do Italian Americans make a much bigger deal about having Italian ancestry than Italian Latin Americans?

Why do Italian Americans make a much bigger deal about having Italian ancestry than Italian Latin Americans?

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Latin American "Italians" are Polentoni and therefore not REAL Italians mama mia

BADA BING

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How did Italians learn Spanish or Portuguese when they had a hard time learning English?

North American culture has been replaced by abject consumerism, they just want to seem more interesting.

How do we know they do? From my understanding, Italian heritage is a big subject in Argentina and Uruguay. Maybe you are just exposed to it less because we live in the Anglosphere, not the Spanishsphere?

blame the immigrants who flooded here en masse in the days of ellis island. the fleeing italians wanted to keep their italian heritage alive without actually living in italy. then it got passed down through the generations.

At least italians aren't like Mexicans and brought us good cuisine, good culture, and conservative values instead of bringing us crime and despair

Portuguese and Spanish are quite similar to Italian compared to English.

pinche mesero muerto de hambre y narizon hahaha

Here unless you find some grandpas who are first or second generation Italians, no one gives a shit since the Italian expressions/food/etc became part of the mainstream.

Whatca Madda with you

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Because 99% don't give a shit.

Just some small comunities in the South and the 1% that go after the citizenship and learn italian and buy italian products.

Buy 99% don't really care about Italy

>no one gives a shit since the Italian expressions/food/etc became part of the mainstream.

Same in NYC and New Jersey

It wouldn't be "whatcha" but "Whatsa" Think "S" sounds not "CH" sounds.

Is it akin to learning another dialect of Italian for you guys?

>60 million loads of Italiano sperm
Also because we don't want to be mistaken for *nglo or g*rman descendant swine.

No one gives a fuck. I have italian citizenship and I don't even use it. Muh heritage is an american thing.

WA'zza maddah wit'chu?

>Just some small comunities in the South and the 1% that go after the citizenship and learn italian and buy italian products

Italian citizenship is just for people with money. Is expensive find the documents and pay the lawyers.
Just people without family and responsabilities think in leaving Brasil. Or some rich people

That's a shame. Italian ancestry is really treasured here

Here it's valuable because of the EU passport. I also have it and have never used it but I guess it could be a good tool if I ever have to emmigrate.

How has Italian culture influenced Argentina and Uruguay?

Nobody tries to learn other dialects, they are so numerous and so different from each other that it could be compared to learn another language.

With language it's pretty easy to see: Rioplatense Spanish has a ton of slang and loanwords from Italian and even old Italian dialects.

Also food: gnocci being eaten every 29th of a month, polenta, grappa, fariña, tons of pasta in general, etc.

Then directly with immigration with like half of Argentina having someone of Italian descent in their ancestru and almost half for Uruguay.

Fake map, debunked many times. It's just impossible for there to be more italians than Italy itself.
And another thing, Argentina didn't receive immigrants from there, check our 100 most common last names, all AMERINDIANS that adopted spaniard names.

A lot of people have it just to travel to the US (or through the US) without a tourist visa.

Sorry, I misunderstood.
No, Italian and Spanish are very similar but not so much to be considered similar to a dialect. Portuguese is much harder for us but is the second language nearest to Italian.

Italian-brazilians are occupied providing for their families and working hard to worry about "muh heritage"

Cara, cala a boca ,sério.

Shame. Brazillian style pizza would sound good

Amerindians are numerous, majoritarian and surpass everybody in NUMBERS in Argentina.
Facts.

we actually have our own flavours (not sure this is the correct word) of pizza though
and we put requeijão inside the edge of the pizza as well

we have more Italian descended people than Italy, but here most are mutts, not pure Italians (although they are still an important minority)
Think of football players, Passarella and Di Maria are mestizos with some Italian ancestry.
Dybala has a Polish surname, but also has one granmother from Naples.
Most people have Italian ancestry, but most are also mixed with something else, if they were born from the 1970s on.

Latin american italians = terronis

by we I meant South America (esp Brazil+Argentina+Uruguay), not Argentina. Argentina has a smaller population than Italy.

Fake.
Argentina is mostly Amerindians and those mixed have tiny little amounts of spaniard or black blood.
I don't know where the italy hoax came from.

because Italy is as latin as spain so it should be pretty nomal for them in latin america

Italians in USA got treated like garbage and (if we are being honest), still are treated like garbage for being tiny brown catholic emotional guys.

Spain and Italy are cousins, an Italian in the middle of Argentina feels at home. An Italian in WASP-dominated New England? Not as much.

My 2c as someone who is not Italian but who had to live next door to Italians and work for an Italian.