If you have citizenship of a country, are fluent in it's language, share its ideals, values and culture, and consideryourself a member of that nation, then you are a member of that nation.
A Somali or a Vietnamese who speaks fluent English, loves Australia, shares Australian values and morals, and participates in Australian culture is just as Australian as anybody else.
You can't get those without being raised by a member of the ethnic group. It only works with adoption. a 1 year old somalian can become an australian, if raised by australian parents and surronded by other austrialians in childhood.
maybe they can never lose their accent, but I've seen immigrants who love this country and are kind and generous and share its values much more than people born here.
Jonathan Thomas
>Prove me wrong. >You can't, cunts.
True, I can't.
Joshua James
Irish, Poles and Italians are veritable proofs of the assimilation capacity of immigrants
Christian Lee
A "country's values" is an extremely subjective and vague thing. The nation is not. By definition the nation is the people you are born into,. The word itself comes from latin natio, to be born, it is very much something assigned at birth and which you can't change.
Re-read your sentence please >A Somali or a Vietnamese who speaks fluent English, loves Australia, shares Australian values and morals, and participates in Australian culture is just as Australian Then why did you start the sentence by saying "A Somali or a Vietnamese" ? If they were actually just as Australian as anyone else then they would not be Somali or Vietnamese.
Evan Sanchez
>I was born in a stable and I love eating hay and being rided so I'm a horse
And you can just build a new stable over the land and consider yourself the rightful inhabitants, that's why its stable and not 'rightful habitat' like continental europe when this argument is used
Jordan Stewart
> rided
jajajaja
Eli Miller
I agree, I dont see much wrong if someone immigrates to the US legally, learns fluent+ English, lives here for however long for citizenship, doesnt commit crimes, and has a decent job to supporr him/herself and doesnt just mooch off the system or other people. For some they are giving up family and culture to become a fully functional US citizen which in some respects is admirable
most black immigrants here all love talking about their African pride their Irish pride is secondary (despite many being born and raised here) and only comes out during debates against immigration or such
Mason Lee
Thats something i notice with the CHIs,they like to larp as mexican nationalists but they get really touchy when you talk about illegal inmigration
Xavier Fisher
i have a spanish passport, family in spain, i studied there for one year, i went to a spanish-chilean private school (we had spanish history classes apart from our "chilean subjects", and "bachillerato" equivalence, half of our teachers were spaniards, etc). And yet i'm not going to larp as spaniard since i'm not spanish. Sure, your argument works in out new world storyless countries, but let's not pretend that's the case for europe. Also, Indoeuropeans need to go back to asia fuck them.
Alexander Lopez
>are fluent in it's language >it's Ironic. You have to go back.
Jacob Perry
Yes. I speak french therefore i am congolese
Anthony Torres
If they were just as australian as anybody else you wouldn’t call them somali or vietnamese
Juan Long
Unironically agree, t.b.h
Wyatt Jackson
H. Airy Arms
Juan Morris
MOMMY
Eli Hill
based and redpilled
Sebastian Davis
If you are born in water, are you a fish? He who is is born from cat, eats mice.