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Russian is depressing. I'm probably around B1 level but it feels very frustrating. Understanding texts (and people to a certain extent) is getting easier, grammar-wise I guess. But the fucking vocab man, I keep mixing up words and forgetting the same words over and over again (special mention to бывaть, must have looked up this one over a dozen times and still can't remember it). And then there's the verbs, which really make me doubt about my ability to ever master Russian.
Real struggle at the moment is actually talking, I'm feeling extremely unconfident and struggle to say the simplest things without pausing every other word to think about how to say what I want to say.
Logan Nguyen
Aprendo espanol casi todos los días pero me cuesta mucho la gramatica de vez en cuando asi que tengo problemas con entender. Carajo.
ich mochte gern deutsch aber es ist sehr schwierig fur ich weil meine muttersprache spanisch ist, bitte hilfe mich :(
Dominic Carter
we all know you wont make it past week 1 so who cares
Juan Bennett
Estarías muy sorprendido. La mayoría de la gente que conozco pensaba lo mismo que tú cuando empecí a aprender espanol.
Joshua Stewart
>Esperanto Waarom verspil je je tijd met een vaalse taal leren?
Thomas Reed
empecé
Daniel Barnes
I'm learning thai, and I was expecting it to be some kind of chinese dialect or a language with so many chinese loan words that it's almost indistinguishable like Japanese. But nope, instead I got simplified hindi with arabic and english loan words. How did this happen?
Daniel Thomas
Gracias. :)
Nolan Rivera
its rare for english speakers to acctually commit since they either dont need the language, or the people switch to english when they try to practice i got that from seeing american threads asking "whats the trick to X language" as if he thought he could learn in a few days.
Jason Scott
Was hat deine Muttersprache damit zu tun? Hör auf, Vorwände zu machen und geh los!
Adrian Allen
should i learn mandarin or is it a meme
Xavier Green
>simplified hindi How so? It sounds very different phonetically. You keep seeing Sanskrit loans wherever you go though.
Oliver Cooper
Je zou moeten leren wat je wilt leren
Christian Collins
Ich finde es sehr spannend, dass es immer so viel zu lernen gibt, du kannst jeden tag fortschritt machen ! Es ist kein rennen
Cameron Hughes
Übrigens kann jemand bitte das korregieren? Und welches Verb wäre im letzten Satz geeigneter, „korregieren“ oder „nachsehen“? Und welches Adjektiv wäre im letzten Satz besser, „geeignet“ oder „passend“?
Aaron Jackson
Well it sounds different phonetically, but a lot of the sanskrit words (which are a significant portion of the language) are pronounced pretty accurately. Hindi Basa, Thai Pasa, meaning language.
Chase Phillips
ja maarxD meme amirite :DDDDDDD huehue I said it again meme! ahahaha
maar goed ff iets moois van Pride Amsterdam voor al jullie flikkers
Iktf for forgetting vocab, but does anyone here who knows both Russian and German know if the former is that much harder than the latter for verbs
Tyler Clark
>bitte hilfe mich Objects after the verb helfen take the dative form so it is 'mir and not 'mich'.
Jayden Jenkins
How the duck do I learn...
I tried the play video games meme and I just don't understand shit! Ree
Austin Perez
You won't learn from video games alone, it's just something that helps
Brayden Price
Translation Challenge: Edda Edition
Easy: >I remember giants. >I saw Baldr. >Skuld held a shield. >I know that I hung. >Welcome, Hedin.
Medium: >Do you know how to read? >Then Odin rode east of the door. >Evening arrived all too soon. >Gudrún could not sleep.
Hard: >She made a great feast in memory of her brothers. >They began to row mightily, almost raptured the keel. >You must know victory-runes if you want to win.
Óðinn tier: >To his friend a man must be a friend, and repay gift for gift; laughter for laughter folk should receive, and also falseness for lies.
This. I've learned Spanish and French and eventually forgot most of it over time. I never need to use them.
Anthony Taylor
The easy ones aren’t that easy and the hard ones aren’t that hard.
Ryan Howard
Easy Serbo-croatian
Pamtim Divci Vidio sam Baldr Skuld je nosao štit Znam ja sam ??? Dobrodošli, Hedin
Ian Sullivan
Hebrew
Leo Green
>The easy ones aren’t that easy
>I know.. >I remember... >welcome
>not easy
Hmmmm
>hard ones are not hard Yes, because most people don't do the hard part. :^)
>Divci kek Div is singular, Divovi plural. Divove plural accusative, which is what you need.
>Baldra* Also accusative.
>correct, but Skuld is a grill, so nosila. :^) Or nosala if it lasted long, as you interpret it.
>Znam ja sam ??? Znam da sam* visio.
>-šao. He is a single guy.
James Miller
Valse* Nice work though.
Owen Fisher
hi
Asher Walker
안녕하세요.
Easton Wilson
Óðinn tier: >To his friend a man must be a friend, and repay gift for gift; laughter for laughter folk should receive, and also falseness for lies. Un bărbat trebuie să fie prieten prietenului său, să rasplătească cadou cu cadou, oameni ar trebui să schimbe râde cu râde, și de asemenea falsitati cu miniciuni
Luke Ortiz
only easy because i'm lazy and i've not actually studied in months.
Memini gigantes. Vidi Balderum. Sculdus scutum portavit. Scio me pependisse. Salve, Heidin.
Aaron Thomas
>Ic man eotenas. >Ic séah Baldæg. >Skuld héold scyld. >Ic wát þæt ic héng. >Wilcume, Wóden.
>Wást þú hú rǽdan sceal?* >Þá rád Wóden fram þǽre dúra éastweard. >Ǽfen cóm tó sóna. >Gúdrun ne meahte slǽpan.
>Héo gegearcode mǽre symbel on hire bróðra árweorðunge. >Hí ongunnon meahtelíce rówan, brǽcon almǽst þá bytme. >Þú scealt sigerúna witan, gif þú gewinnan wilt.
>Wine sínum sceal mann wine wesan, ond gieldan giefe wið giefe; hleahtor wið hleahtor sceal hæleð tacan, ond lyge wið lyge. *
* and ** Translated from ON directly, not from English.
Sorry if this is a stupid question but didn't the Anglo-Saxons use moon runes instead of the latin alphabet?
James Gomez
>oameni ar trebui să schimbe râde cu râde That’s not what the original says, but anyway: -oamenii (with two i); it’s the definite article. I can’t explain why the definite article is used here while in English it’s not; maybe in Italian the definite would be used too? I don’t know, that’s just the way it is. -râde: that’s the third person singular and infinitive of the verb ‘to laugh’. The noun ‘laughter’ which had to be used here is ‘râs’ (which is the participle of the verb ‘a râde’, and means ‘lynx’ too) What the original actually said would be ‘Oamenii ar trebui să primească râs pentru râs, și de asemenea falsitate/neadevăr pentru minciuni.’ By the way the word ‘falsitate’ refers more to the human trait of two-facedness than to what’s here, so something like ‘neadevăr’ (un-truth) would be appropriate.
Oliver Sullivan
They had runes but almost everything they wrote down that we have is in the Latin alphabet. Runes were used for inscriptions or as substitute for words which were pronounced the same. Also in some riddles.
e.g. ᛗ rune is called ''mann'' meaning ''man'', so you could use that single rune instead of spelling out ''mann'' using the Roman letters. e.g. 'Ic eom ᛗ' = 'Ic eom man.'
Dominic Cruz
By the way congrats on reaching the conjunctive too, you’re progressing fast. How long ago did you start?
>-oamenii (with two i); it’s the definite article. I can’t explain why the definite article is used here while in English it’s not; maybe in Italian the definite would be used too? I don’t know, that’s just the way it is. Yes we use it in italian too, that was a stupid mistake I made
>-râde So what is the plural of râs?
>How long ago did you start? Two weeks ago lol.
>By the way congrats on reaching the conjunctive too, By conjunctive you mean the tense we put after the să (which is basically identical to the indicative except for the 3rd person) or the "aș ai ar" etc.. + infinitive?
Logan Young
>So what is the plural of râs? un râs — două râsete (laughs) (neutru) un râs — doi râși (lynxes) (masculin) >Two weeks ago lol. I’m unironically impressed, seriously. >By conjunctive you mean... The one after ‘să’. Pro tip: if the normal third person ends in ‘-e’the conjunctive ends in ‘-ă’ and vice versa.
Gabriel Green
this was hard but not as dumb but I've seen better didn't know I was missing such basic words desu
>I remember giants. I kan giganten herineren >I saw Baldr. I zag Baldr >Skuld held a shield. Skuld houd een schild >I know that I hung. ?! Ik weet dat ik ...wtf are these verb tenses even >Welcome, Hedin. ja nee rot op eerst kwam je me het domste zinen en nu paal je gewoon 'welkom ' weet je donder op
>Do you know how to read? Kan je niet lezen ofwa? >Then Odin rode east of the door. Toen rij(de?!) Odin oosten van de deur >Evening arrived all too soon. Avond zal te vroeg komen >Gudrún could not sleep. Gydrun konde niet slapen
>She made a great feast in memory of her brothers. Ze maakte een groot feest om haar broeren te herineren (I know there has to be a better way to say "to remember ") >They began to row mightily, almost raptured the keel. Ze begonen langzaam te...row, the rest is nope >You must know victory-runes if you want to win. Je moet van victorie-runen weten als je wil winnen.
>To his friend a man must be a friend, and repay gift for gift; laughter for laughter folk should receive, and also falseness for lies. Men moet een vriend van zijn vriend, en cadoutjes terug betalen met cadoutjes(the worst possible way to say this I expect) Men zou lachen terug voor lachen krijgen, maar ook ..never heard anyone say the word for lies; do Dutch people lie at all?
can we all agree that italybro is btfo'ing everyone else in this thread by a long shot the absolute madman is unstoppable
>저는 거인들을 기억해요. >발더를 봤어요. >스컬드는 손으로 방패를 자웠었어요. >나는 내를 죽일 걸 알아. / 나는 내를 매달릴 걸 알아. (?) >환영해요, 헤딘 씨요.
Medium: >너는 읽를 줄 알겠니까?
I'm tired will do the other ones later.
Thomas Adams
>niet Cute!
Hudson Rivera
>를 Looks like stacked towels haha
Jose Edwards
Whats's the most cost efficient method of learning German?
Daniel Thomas
Being born and raised in Germany by Germans. :^)
Julian Bailey
Assimil German Superpack 65 USD on Amazon. Well structured lessons in the book and the audio is excellent quality.
Juan Parker
>I kan giganten herineren Ander woord voor gigant is reus. herinneren* >I zag Baldr. >Skuld houd een schild Skuld hield een schild vast >>I know that I hung Ik wist dat ik zou hangen (?) > 'welkom ' Naisu. verrie mush korrekt. >Kan je [niet] lezen [ofwa]? Correct if you had omitted [...] Weet jij hoe je moet lezen? >Toen rij(de?!) Odin oosten van de deur Toen reed Odin [ten] oosten van de deur. >Avond zal te vroeg komen De avond is te vroeg gekomen >Gydrun kon niet slapen Pro tip: If you have a hard werkwoord on your hands. Ignore the -de -te conjugation. Just leave kon as it is. >Ze maakte een groot feest om haar broeren te herineren Feast =/= party Banket = banquet = feast "in memory of her brothers" -> Ter herdenking / in nagedachtenis van haar broers/broeders >Ze begonen langzaam te...row, the rest is nope Ze begonnen MACHTIG/KRACHTIG te ROEIEN, de KIEL ging bijna aan stukken. >Je moet van victorie-runen weten als je wil winnen overwinnings-runen :^) >Men moet een vriend van zijn vriend, en cadoutjes terug betalen met cadoutjes Een man moet aan zijn vriend een vriend wezen, gift voor gift terugbetalen; lag voor lag zal men moeten ontvangen en ook valsheden voor leugens. (?)
>
Adrian Gutierrez
I dread this 를. It is hard as balls to properly pronounce at will for me.
>the most cost efficient so far it sounds like the most boring one too so pew pew two in one go
>hield >reed fml yet again I should just do some exercises with this blasted tense >verrie mush korrekt tenk joe ee lot >ter herdenking aaaagggh should've known this from dodenherdenking
the last one sounds bretty nice desu
yea I wasn't paying enough attention by the looks of it, I should put actual effort in it next time; thank you for being so patient and helpful user ;__;
no no user you should look up to him either way, italian is even closer than french and he seems to have more time to study it's not a competition, the only one you have to get ahead of is yourself, but without getting ahead of yourself :^) it's like you have omelette they have pizza, y'know? potato - pancetta, tomato - bruschetta
Can German Learners point me in the right direction.. I did Duolingo and nearly finished the course. And I bought a text book but it's so boring. What resources or methods do you use
Charles Cooper
if you don't wish to spend money, you can find an old (late 70s / early 80s) german assimil on libgen, and can find the audio for it just by googling. I'll see if i can find the links when i have the time.
>I want to learn German without any effort anyone got any ideas?
Brandon Hall
Now I'm all pumped up, I'll never forget those words user
Well, I bought 2 exercices books (grammar, tenses and vocabulary) and I try to exercise one hour a day. I try to listen to german radio but it feels weird since I don't understand what they're saying. I think I should take private lessons at the Goethe Institut but it's not open yet
actually, nvm, the book is in french, and there isn't a version of it in english that i can find.
there's a link here : archive.org/download/langue02 though if you're interested. there's also some other, presumably as old, editions of "sans peine" books for other languages with audio there too.
you'd probably just be better off pirating newer stuff though.
Andrew Flores
Study grammar constantly. t. took German
Zachary Morris
>I remember giants. 我記得巨人 (Wǒ jìdé jùrén) >I saw Baldr. 我見了 Baldr (Wǒ jiànle Baldr) >Skuld held a shield. Skuld 保持了一个屏蔽 (Skuld bǎochíle yī gè píngbì) >I know that I hung. ? >Welcome, Hedin. 歡迎, Hedin (Huānyíng, Hedin)
>Do you know how to read? 你知道怎麼讀嗎? (Nǐ zhīdào zěnme dù ma?) >Then Odin rode east of the door. >然後, Odin 騎了門的東 (Ránhòu, Odin qíle mén de dōng) >Evening arrived all too soon. 晚間 來了太快了 (Wǎnjiān láile tài kuàile) >Gudrún could not sleep. ?
I hope I didn't butcher this
Isaac Robinson
what is this?
Joseph Smith
heh... i guess you're not wrong.
Matthew Smith
I haven't used Duolingo in a long time. What the hell are the crown things?
Connor Clark
if you get past the point where you're unintelligible people will stop asking to switch to english
The website for installing it is: lwt.sourceforge.net/ Just set the language to French, then cut+past French content from wherever, preferably whatever has both text+audio.
Cooper Jenkins
>Finnish has 2 types of consonant gradation Fuck me
Noah Johnson
Sāmoan like me :) Easy >Ou te iloa ni tagata sili >Sā ou va'ai Baldr >Sā taofi Skuld se talipupuni >Ou te iloa (idk) >Tālofa, Hedin
Medium >'E te iloa faitau? > > >E le mafai ona moe Gudrun
