>The new measure forbids EU persons from complying with U.S. sanctions or related court rulings and allows for firms to sue in court to recover potential damages from parties who withdraw from contracts due to U.S. sanctions.
NATO did nothing for us dumbass. It's more a financial burden.
On the other hand the US are financing directly your nazi government.
Nicholas Jenkins
The EU is only siding with it's own economic interest. The US on the other hand are fully aligned on Israel's irresponsible policy.
Nathan Richardson
>NATO did nothing for us dumbass. It was literally formed so weak countries like yours would have global support against conquering forces and save you the shame of surrendering in another war. You owe NATO your lives.
Nathaniel Robinson
>This amount of butthurt that EU is not blindly following Israel tricks.
YOU are the aggressor.
Colton Brown
>this level of denial
Henry Barnes
>YOU are the aggressor. What does your personal opinion of israel have to do with the fact that america saved you from complete annihilation and you repay them by sucking ME cock for oil? Go back to tumblr kid.
Cooper Reyes
You know nothing, we weren't even in NATO 10 years ago.
And the topic of the thread is EU standing from its own interests while the US are standing for Israel.
Owen Russell
It's not like Europeans can't defend themselves, if anything we've been taking advantage of America.
So we should let our foreign policy be dictated by the US because they are a big NATO contributer? Trump has done enough to destroy the partnership with the EU and we won't follow his ego trips like little dogs especially when he barely coordinates his moves with us.
Carson Sullivan
>these AUTHENTIC dvds and binders say that you should invade iran for us
Grayson Bailey
>we weren't even in NATO 10 years ago. Are you sure about that?*insert john cena meme* (pic related) other than that you cant deny the fact that without the usa there's a good chance you wouldn't even be alive to write this , and if you repay them by praising and funding countries that goes against western values and ideologies , than you are more treacherous and manipulative than jews.
>It's not like Europeans can't defend themselves It only takes one financially failing country to give birth to extremists movements and start a 3rd world war(perhaps greece?) but that scenario is less likely than the scenario where sharia praising muslims will march to the streets one day in order to change europe completely and when that day comes you'll need the usa.
yea yea keep praising rapists and thieves because of your "white guilt". i wonder how many women have been brutally raped and were forced to shut up? when sweden dies don't come crying to us.
No , NATO is a secondary reason , the main reason is that you are funding countries that are openly against western values and ideologies(the ones that most democratic countries are built on)
But you're crying right now for the EU to support your warmongering stance.
Andrew Robinson
(You) the chinese have been developing very impressive technology that has ecplipsed anything the west has on offer. they know they have been beat. between quantam radars, silent EM drive subs, hypersonic missiles, ship based railguns, and the superior stealth of the J-20 the west cannot recover. the chinese could sink each one of the UKs ships one by one to test missiles, and they couldnt do a thing about it.
Anthony Price
the tempest and F-35 are meerly the dying breaths of the british aviation industry and military industry as a whole. they have already resorted to copying the superior chinese J-31 and soon they will fail at that. hopefully they will swallow their horrendous pride and arrogance and join chinas sphere of influence. it would benefit them greatly.
Brody Cruz
>that are openly against western values and ideologies
seriously, Israel, USA and Saudi Arabia have to start a war to stop the iranian regime
dont let it be too late like 1933
Jonathan Hernandez
Pretty based, can't deny that
Easton Lopez
>not wanting to support an Islamic state means I want to support a Jewish one Fucking state of eu shills
Elijah Walker
this is the attitude that lead to the dismay of your country. too busy focusing on miniscule problems like race and politics to develop new technology and infrastructure. now all NATO nations are 3rd world countries compared to china. hopefully the humbler nations of the world will leave the sinking ship that is nato for the progress and well being that is china.
Angel Young
>the main reason is that you are funding countries that are openly against western values and ideologies Are you talking about Saudi Arabia? Somehow the US doesn't care about their lack of western values but Iran has to be suddenly punished? No one cares about ethics as long as economic and strategic factors prevail. It's mostly instrumentalized to justify one's policy infront of the public. See Iraq. And minor economic partnership doesn't equal funding.
Jaxon Lewis
I never claimed the EU should stop supporting arab countries because of israel thats a statement that you made not me. Im saying you are hungry for arab oil so you don't mind betraying your allies which is disgusting , think of all the americans who died for your country , go watch D day footage and tell me its ok for them to die for your greed.
Exactly why western countries need to stay united and develop mutual defences.
Ahh so you're a media cuck? i see now. So by your logic , the media would never lie to you in order to get oh idk more ratings? and surely the media wouldn't want to incite more violence it isn't like more media coverage is important to them or something. Do you know why this is the title thats show? because "israel genocides lesser population" is a more attractive title than "Terrorists are attacking israel".
Liam Nelson
>regime Nice proxy there
Jackson Mitchell
>Im saying you are hungry for arab oil so you don't mind betraying your allies which is disgusting
We had an agreement. The US breaks the agreement with no regards for its allies. We are the ones betrayed... And we're supposed not to react?
Ryan Moore
>EU blocks sanctions on Iran >Kikes suddenly start spouting MAGAspeak and talk about NATO
How can you support attacking yet another country for dubious reasons, after what happened in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya?
The only reason the US and Israel refuses any agreement is because Iran is a threat to their dominance in the middle east.
We shouldn't serve as a proxy military for regional Israel interests.
Zachary Morris
I wonder if he's getting payed for this.
Asher Jenkins
>No one cares about ethics as long as economic and strategic factors prevail You're absolutely right , but don't get me wrong , i'm not justifying U.S government for supporting saudi arabia , im just saying that supporting iran is worse , and besides if your gonna support arab countries anyways why not stick by the usa and buy oil from saudi arabia?
If you were loyal to the country that you have been dependant on all these years than maybe trump would actually listen to you when you criticise him. The beach of normandy is stained with the blood of foreign soldiers that died for your freedom the least you can do is support the U.S in silence.
Juan Jones
Israel > muslim shitholes
Brody Nelson
>they're on to me! better post some stale memes パチパチ
Tyler Price
ill be honest with you, the west is done. your people are uneducated, lazy, and barbaric. always have been. you subjgate and exploit humbler nations for resources you could have easily gotten in your own land if you werent so lazy and uneducated. but now thats over. china is going to turn all of your nations into sattelite states and bring peace their newer generations, while leaving the old thinking in the dust. the trash that is western "culture" is going to be cleaned up and destroyed by china, so that the atrocities the west commits that litters history can no longer occur.
Matthew Howard
this entire post is hilarious, but tell us why supporting iran is worse than supporting SA
Mason Powell
>for dubious reasons They openly invade and/or control most of the middle east, Irak, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen etc. with direct military control or puppet states/puppet army. And they directly and indirectly did a lot of crimes to achieve that.
Iran is huge threat to all the middle east, it's not OK for Iran to control the middle east. No one should allow that.
Also the iranian people deserve people, I really love that country, it doesnt deserve to be in that state
can someone explain why the fuck was the Iran deal bad at all? why put sanctions when it makes no fucking sense? and why the fuck does israel not like iran (apart from religion)
anyways, based EU helping my Aryan brothers :)
Ryder Rivera
Is israel a western country?
Easton Harris
seeunited or not, there is no future for the west. it will be rightfully destroyed.
Grayson Edwards
Its not about religion , iran founded hezbollah and they bombarded the shit out of us back in 06'. hezbollah are still supported by iran and are used as a proxy so no one can blame iran for trying to destroy us.
Yes , we hold democratic values.
Ryder Smith
I want sunnis and shias to kill each other
Josiah Garcia
Also the iranian people deserve better rulers***
>iran founded hezbollah created and founded, even the hezbollah official brag about being iran's armed arm. somehow you lost two wars against those lebanese fucker, 2006 and south lebanon conflict. Care to explain?
Isaac Jenkins
>They openly invade and/or control most of the middle east, Irak, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen etc. with direct military control or puppet states/puppet army
They only do what the US do on a bigger scale. The issue is that the US and Israel want unchallenged complete control of the middle east. They're not interested in equilibrium or rational cooperation, they want complete dominance and control. They can have this policy but our interests shouldn't be stamped in the process.
Ryan Rivera
>our interests shouldn't be stamped in the process. they already stamp out your interests everywhere else.
>Of all Israeli wars, the Lebanon war was launched under the most favorable conditions. The balance of power in the battlefield was overwhelmingly in Israel's favor. Regional and international conditions opened a window of opportunity for Israel that gave it unprecedented latitude (so much so that its forces could lay siege to an Arab capital). Most Israeli citizens considered the PLO a mortal enemy and thus rallied round the flag once the war started, with their civil and political institutions following suit. The economic cost of the war was bearable, the combat fatalities limited, and both were on the decline as time passed. Still, "it is possible to say ... without hesitation," as did Lieutenant General Eitan himself, "that eventually, the results of the war were radically different from Israel's wishes and intentions."38 Why, then, in spite of such favorable conditions and initial successes, did Israel end the Lebanon war on the defensive and without achieving most of its objectives?
>How Democracies Lose Small Wars, GIL MEROM, Tel-Aviv University
Pretty good book to explain the failure of israel in 2006, everyone should read it, free on libgen.io
Rather have a western/israeli control on the middle east like saudi arabia than the Iranian one.
Iran is literally genociding the syrian population and ethnically replacing them in a massive scale, not seen since 1945
Blake Cruz
But it's not in the west. Western means situated in the west. Isn't Israel in the middle east?
Austin Miller
Lol Europeans have stronger identities than Americans, when shit hits the fan we can help ourselves. If it wasn't for Israeli and the US there wouldn't be half as many Muslims in Europe
Ethan Walker
>Iran is literally genociding the syrian population and ethnically replacing them in a massive scale, not seen since 1945
Oh really? And of course there are no proof because it is well known that death camps can easily be completely hidden from satellite spies, and anyway the US and Israel wouldn't use that information against Iran, that wouldn't be fair.
Adrian Sullivan
>when shit hits the fan we can help ourselves two world wars say otherwise.
Henry Bailey
>Yes , we hold democratic values.
yeah until 2018, but last week the israeli far right wanted to make israel an apartheid state I don't think israel will be a democracy in few years considering last months events
They're sending a lot of non-arab and iranian shias families to replace the place their militias ethnically cleansed. Stop defending this, this is morally cruel
Brayden Miller
WWI was won by British and French. WWII was won by the USSR.
The US in each instance arrived when it was clear which camp was going to win.
the fact that the even fought means that euros in fact, will not help each other when shit hits the fan.
Wyatt Brown
The world wars were wars between europeans. War between european nations nowadays is out of question. Don’t be an idiot
Daniel Wright
>Stop defending this, this is morally cruel
I'm not defending, I say you have no proof. And it's not the point. Israel are doing plenty of war crimes but we're still doing trade with them.
Lucas Harris
Those world wars were between European nations we weren't being invaded by outsiders.
Nathan Thompson
whatever helps you sleep at night well you are now.
Jackson Barnes
Yeah no thanks to the US, it's only temporary though. Europe is less welcoming to foreigners than the US
Josiah Reyes
you think i am american? i am chinese. compared to china all of europe is 3rd world.
Logan Collins
Our standard of losing a war is being completely wiped out , so no we didn't lose. And even by global standards we didn't lose , our ground forces went in lebanon , disabled all hamas activity south of the litani river and withdrawn back , we didn't try to conquer lebanon. But back in 82' we went full scale into lebanon and conquered beirut.
When i say western i mean countries that hold western values , unlike countries like iran that recently imprisoned a woman for 20 years for taking off her hijab in public , or pakistan that 70% of the populace supports honor killings.
>two world wars say otherwise. This
>If it wasn't for Israeli and the US there wouldn't be half as many Muslims in Europe
The fact that you believe that we have the power to tell you who to take in and who to leave out reflects how much the media holds your minds hostage.
>yeah until 2018, but last week the israeli far right wanted to make israel an apartheid state Ide like to see you elaborate on this
Jason Fisher
That's just stupid... It was an European country invading other European countries...
The world has changed, dumb mutt.
William Young
"Democracies" lose "small" (read "non-total") wars because they're unwelcome intruders and can't level the country with the ground, meaning that native resistance will continue indefinitely. Every militiaman ("insurgent"/"terrorist"/"taliban"/"vc") killed only rallies three more to the flag. It's not fucking rocket science.
>Iran is literally genociding the syrian population and ethnically replacing them in a massive scale, not seen since 1945 Nobody's buying what you're selling, loser. Go play with your mutilated dreidel lelel
Xavier Ross
>disabled all hamas activity Hezbollah* my bad
Noah Hill
>whatever helps you sleep at night
Congratulations, that’s a very powerful argument
Nathan Baker
so the fact that europeans have murdered eachother in the past means that they will be just happy to help eachother when things go bad? the amount of bickering. in the EU proves this. thats just what happens when you chose blind patriotism over the well being and prosperity that is china's sphere of influence.
Wyatt Phillips
Lmaoing @ this kike suffering a mental breakdown because turns out nobody besides batshit crazy US evangelicals really likes their failed state.
Juan Allen
What's wrong with Iran controlling the middle east? It's only the natural state of affairs, they are the most powerful nation in the area. You wanna suck on America's dick forever pal?
Nicholas Morales
why are insects always so rabid?
Brody Richardson
Having western values is vastly different from being situated in the west. Being a western country is purely geo-graphical. Repressing protests, minority rule, opressing gays as well as pushing for an ethno-state are not western values, either. I don't think it's a western country, both ideologically and geographically.
Jace Wilson
Doesn't your piece of shit nation has something like 20 % muzzies? Not counting the ones you have apartheided in occupied areas. Yeah I'm sure much bigger nations with smaller muslim proportions will fall anyday now while pissrael keeps on trucking.
Ryder Rivera
So because there was a civil war in the US 150 years ago means the US won't defend itself?
You're full of shit.
Angel Russell
looking at all the bloodshed westerners have committed in history id say that china is far from rabid. westerners like you need to be locked up in mental institutions while the newer generations can be reeducated.
You have no idea what you’re talking about you worthless retard Don’t feel forced to share your uneducated opinions
Oliver Cook
it already isnt defending itself. china has outclassed it in every metric and it hasnt done a thing about it.
Christopher Harris
lol why you living in america then
Aaron Bennett
good meme chang. it will be decades before your insect nation can match the west. >that we have the power to tell you who to take in Are you dense? Your actions supported migration to Europe. US and Israel pushed for the world to iwanted to invade Iraq, Israel heavily lobbied for US actions in Syria too.
Lucas Young
i wouldnt dare enter western websites without proxy. you westerners are known for stealing money and information through viruses.
Jonathan Phillips
US has a far higher gdp despite having 1/4th the population
Oliver Powell
>inb4 fantasy story about Chinese migrants working for the mainland.
Adam Butler
why you using int flag program then lol, stop trolling redneck steve
Brayden Reed
Australia and New Zealand are two western nations that lie in the southern pacific
How about you shut the fuck up dumb ape
Nathan Nelson
GDP is useless. in every other metric china is the #1 economy in the world. china not only matches the west, but outclasses them entirely. the chinese have been developing very impressive technology that has ecplipsed anything the west has on offer. they know they have been beat. between quantam radars, silent EM drive subs, hypersonic missiles, ship based railguns, and the superior stealth of the J-20 the west cannot recover. the chinese could sink each one of the UKs ships one by one to test missiles, and they couldnt do a thing about it.
Kayden Garcia
He's right tho. Israel is not a western country.
Daniel Brooks
>western education is so bad that they dont know how proxies work