0.2btc by the end of this week.
Bitcoin Cash is the true Bitcoin
I'm so ready to taste the salty tears of normies after their shitcash crashes.
fuck off core cuck
lmao you got dumped on by roger ver AGAIN and you still defend him
imagine being that cucked
>0.2btc by the end of this week.
top kek... the REAL bitcoin is going to be worth .2 bitcoins...lmfao... excellent post masterful sarcasm
check out these brainlets over here
He didn't sell shit the last time though.
Top wallets still have the same amount of BCH they had when the 0.5BTC pump took place, they even kept on buying it during that pump.
>bitinfocharts.com
So, yeah keep on spreading your dumb FUD.
>it's only a dump if coins move from a top wallet
>one person can't dump from multiple wallets or exchange wallets
Imagine being this uneducated on basic POW principles
seein how there is next to zero transaction traffic on the BCH network. ALL of the bch pumps are done on exchange (i.e. bots, wash, paint, etc...)
Cashies on suicide watch!!
no, some top wallets dumped like 100k BCH in the last weeks. (you can't see them now in top wallets because they're empty)
Yesssss.... yeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss........
Very good, cashies. Very good, indeed. You have done very well in your shilling of our scam-I mean... "legitimate" Bitcoin fork. Every effort, no matter how small, is necessary as we continue our campaign to deceive, mislead, and trick newcomers-I mean, "convince" people of bcash's superiority. For your efforts, you will receive 1(one) complimentary bottle of Onions in a flavor of your choosing. Now open wide, my fellow cashie, it's time for your daily dose...
... Hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggggggggg...
It will be fun watching these coretards writhe when they figure out that all their emotional gloating and shit posting in the world won't make a micron worth of difference to the simple brutal logic of pow division by market price.
I can't even muster the care to taunt you people anymore. I just pity you now. How stupid do you have to be to have this rubbed in your face for months on end and still fail to grasp it?
You can't save fools from themselves.
fuck. this reminds me. i need to order more onions this month.
it's happening
dude, you have no transactions on your network. none. when are you going to figure out that the bch price action is being controlled by trading bots trading with each other. no one wants this shit for real. no merchant adoption, no OTC market, no normies putting bch in their hardware wallets... nothing.
give me a quick rundown on onions
>dude, you have no transactions on your network.
I can smell your fear. cryptograffiti.info
Not worth it, remember these shills are paid by Roger and Jihan. Bcash will eventually have to raise the 21 million limit in order to incentivize miners to continue mining since they've already committed to "muh no fees"
you're both retarded tbqh
It must suck to have to hold core coin in fear of being replaced everyday watching the value and hash power dwindle away as your leaders tell you to hold on redemtion is coming as they bail out.
>IF the hash power starts abandoning
>inevitable conclusion
what a piece of shit piece.
All the adoption that went into core is being transferred over to cash. That is the migration strategy. Uptake of cash is orders of magnitude larger than lightning, and now that businesses know they can build on the platform and it will support their growth, they are doing exactly that. Joystream, open bazaar block press cointext memo.cash and dozens of others, all just adding value to the currency, and every piece they add puts pressure on the guillotine poised above BTC's neck that it is absolutely incapable of stopping with anything like its own adoption, which is just a laughable dream at this stage.
That BCH is indeed likely being manipulated upwards by whales on top of all that organic adoption isn't something that should make you feel safer. It is something that should be an even bigger warning siren. It means you're even more fucked than if it was just a slower organic death, it means the forces involved realise they're in a situation to press their advantage and wipe you out quickly.
And that is what they are doing.
Remember; You were warned.
eat the raw onion
the red ones are easier to eat
must be raw
eat one a day
you can mix it into a smoothie if you want (mixing it with bananas peanut butter and blueberries goes a long way to make it not burn your nostrils anymore)
eating raw onions b00sts your test
if you're below 34 yrs old you should be having full hard ons every morning when you wake up
otherwise there is something wrong with your test levels
Bcash and the chink coins are being pumped by shit exchanges like Hitbtc, Huobi, LBANK, and more. It's all a scam by the chinks, don't buy their bags.
>>IF the hash power starts abandoning
>>inevitable conclusion
soon
Hashpower follows price. Product value denotes eventual price, btc has zero value and lightning is a failure, btc is appreciating rapidly in both value and uptake, increase in uptake measured by BCH vs lightning is orders of magnitude favoring bch.
The end result is inevitable no matter how emotionally destroyed it makes you, wojack.
The funniest part is that so many libertarians (almost all of them non-technical) have bought into Bcash as the "libertarian" coin solely due to Roger's megalomania. When in reality, it's a centralized Chinese knockoff controlled by Chinese businessmen who don't give a fuck about liberty or any cypherpunk principles.
>core cuck cope harder
Just out today, probably causing the spike in price.
Panel Discussion with Craig Wright and Jimmy Nguyen - The Future of Bitcoin (Cash)
>cryptograffiti.info
what kind of stupid shit is this?
you actually said nothing in all of those words....
>muh massive adoption
prove it. and I don't want to see that SBI Holdings larppy shit either.. I mean prove it like the news that was posted this morning about NYSE settling with real bitcoins... that's BTC to be exact. Or, GS opens an ETF based on BTC... something along those lines of prove it. (pro tip: you got nothing)
Lightning is coming along great, tons of interest and enthusiasm. More mainnet lightning nodes than Bcash nodes by far.
Another 1 post by this id. Wow, there's so many different people into bcash! Definitely not the same paid shill using different proxies. Damn, bcashers are desperate.
BCH:
>1 tb block
>4B transactions before fees get above $.001
BTC:
>"1.8" mb block
>"unlimited" celeing of fees but about 2k transactions... lets say $1000 average fee
4Bx.001 > 2kx1000
$4million in fees per block for BCH vrs $2million for BTC (with a $1000 average transaction fee)
So who is going to have to print more to keep the chain secure?
SCAM do not buy.
Agreed I don't get why the libertarian crowd doesnt buy LTC. Litecoin is a much better coin than Bcash in terms of transparency, fees, speed, decentralization, etc.
>1tb block
Impossible without giant data centers that will be easily coopted by governments. If in 20 years or so it becomes possible for regular individuals to run a full node with 1tb blocks, obviously by that point BTC will be well beyond 1.8mb. Hell, Schnorr sigs are around the corner and will raise the effective limit dramatically.
20.225 BTC lightning capacity as of this very second.
You guys just will never get it. You deserve what's coming.
Agreed, it also has more usage than BCH and is interoperable on the Lightning network (atomic swaps, etc). Even Dogecoin has more activity than BCH.
> but muh mainstream finance the backed the hijacking is still totally trying to make it happen!
Hahahahahahhaa.
*sigh*
Stop fudding so you can buy cheap. Its not too late
It's ok. Your impatience and need for instant gratification is what led you to BCH in the first place. Those of us with more long-term visions and ideals (for example every major cypherpunk) are sticking with Bitcoin.
You're not going to have a long term because the price will take away your hashpower and you will have no blockchain, period.
Every major cypherpunk knows that Segwit was rushed in to remove king cypherpunk dead man's switch you dumb pajeet pedo fuck go rope yourself
why does core post in a bcash post about lightning, thats like pissing in the wind
Funny, bcash shills have been saying this since the beginning and it's going on almost a full year. I wonder how much longer it'll take?
Is Jihan now paying for auto-generated bcash shilling? Not getting his shekels worth.
divergence of 0.0496% per ten minutes or greater and BTC never reaches difficulty adjustment and must survive on ideological mining alone.
So, basically it will happen eventually by organic adoption alone *or* when some BCH whale feels up to topping BTC and believes the market is ready for it, and the push needed to start the avalanche is not much at all for the magnitude of swings going on regularly in this market.
I said prove it.
he said...
>hurr durr
it's okay man I understand low IQ, I have a step cousin.
>Some Bcash whale
Roger already tried this last year when he went all in and got Bitcoin down to ~5500 and bcash up to nearly 2800. The Bitcoin network slowed nearly to a halt. Look what happened subsequently?
There is very little organic adoption of bcash, and certainly less than that of Bitcoin. The bcash community is largely made up of butthurt, non-technical semi-early adopters of Bitcoin, and are not adding to their ranks any more than Litecoin is.
>4"put your money where your mouth is" -mouth or ass??
these are the memo messages in BCH?
You said "prove it like with all my jewed out mainstream bank examples" which just proves the narrative that BTC was hijacked and sabotaged by those mainstream banks to execute their agenda and suppress the threat the original bitcoin represented. And you're right, I have no such examples, if I did in fact have such examples, it would prove BCH was just as sabotaged as BTC in the exact way the BCH gang has been pointing out it has been for ages now pic related.
It's not.
Bcash
>organic adoption alone
this is what delusional looks like kids.
I said to prove this "mass adoption" mantra you fucking retard. Prove just one large (doesn't have to be a bank) institution uses, not gonna bouta use, but actually uses bitcoin cash.
And, that SBI Holdings news , albeit bullshit because they've put their support behind Ripple, is a joke on you, SBI Holdings is a fucking bank you genuine imbecile.
That's not actually what caused the event to which you're referring. That was a consequence of the last iteration of the previous BCH DAA which had a problem that was being exploited to cause the difficulty to skyrocket, coupled with the new BCH DAA. As a consequence, for that very narrow band of time BCH bids on hashpower were so high that BTC could not compete, and it lost 90% of its hash power. That is indeed what things will look like long term when the price warrants it, but what happened back then was not due to high price, but low difficulty, and was by nature only ever going to happen for a short time. It was a shot across the bow which made it obvious to those of us who understood how difficulty adjustment works what the eventual consequence and equilibrium of BCH price appreciation would be, not a bolt from the blue that would flat out and permanently kill BTC.
That will only happen when the market makes it happen. I know all this as I was the one posting about it at the time and freaking out because I had not previously understood that blockchains were vulnerable to this form of attack based purely around a weakness in the difficulty adjustment algorithm.
Indeed, this is the most laughable of the bcash talking points.
I had a job offer from SBI, I know who and what they are. They're Japanese, their interests are massively divergent from the wall street fucks that sabotaged the original BTC, Japan's entire approach to crypto is a way to leverage their unwanted heavily held US debt that they're unable to offload due to being technically occupied, the last thing they want is for the US to be able to dig their claws even deeper in using BTC as a hook instead. Their interests are not at all aligned with those wallstreet fucks.
All of asia just wants a genuine reliable global currency, and that is exactly what BCH is going to be, and all the BTC kikery in the world isn't going to change that. That you idiots don't even understand you've sabotaged a chain that will dissolve out from under you because you've also compromised the value proposition of it is just icing on the cake.
What you're basically saying is that if people stop valuing Bitcoin, and start valuing Bcash more, then miners will stop mining Bitcoin in favor of Bcash. This goes both ways, and it's not looking good for Bcash.
There's no reason to believe that people will start valuing Bcash more than Bitcoin. Bitcoin has the network effect, by far much better developers and computer scientists, name recognition, etc. New investors are buying Bitcoin and don't give a fuck about the scaling debate.
>All of asia just wants a genuine reliable global currency
You know how I know you're paid by Roger?
lol dude you aren't supposed to argue with the core-shills. You just play along and let them talk. Give them enough rope to hang themselves.
Bunch of repurposed CTR drones stick out like a sore thumb.
>BCH DAA which had a problem that was being exploited
this is the reason why you don't move at breakneck speed when you are dealing with Billions of other peoples money. One vulnerability is all it takes to ruin a coin faster than this squabble over greed will. Which is why I support btc. It's only a matter of time until the headlines read "Roger Ver took Bcash too far too fast, now it's the Frankenstein's Monster of the Blockchain."
> . This goes both ways, and it's not looking good for Bcash.
Wrong, BCH DAA just lowers the difficulty of the chain in order to maintain necessary hash rate in order to mine a block every ten minutes, and you're just flat out wrong about the adoption issue, whinge and bitch as you might about it, there are less than 3000 lightning users and less than 30 BTC even tied up in it, by contrast every single major business that used to operate mostly on BTC has also opened up BCH to hedge against the failure of BTC, which everyone except you knows is a foregone conclusion. Bitpay, Coinbase, yadda yadda yadda, every exchange that has even the slightest modicum of a fucking clue what's going on, every payment processor with any kind of volume at all, just fucking everything, you responding with NUHUH isn't accomplishing sweet fuck all and I'm not even listening to it except as evidence that you have a combination of ignorance and wishful thinking a muslim would envy.
> You know how I know you're paid by Roger?
Because I'm pointing out to you that you're wrong, and you can't imagine any other possible explanation for it, because you're a stupid cunt. That's ok, I forgive you.
The market won't though. Kiss your ass goodbye.
core cucks would defend this LOL
Get the champagne ready for those $50 fees.
And yet, you claim that moving slowly prevents negative consequences, while the fate of the BTC chain is nothing *but* a huge negative consequence, all the way to chain death, because they didn't do the simple fucking thing of scaling perfectly reasonably on chain.
But of course they couldn't do that, as they were hired to sabotage it, and saboteurs don't improve the item which they are hired to sabotage.
Sometimes you have to move the ship faster than you'd like to, in order to avoid an obstacle which wasn't apparent until later than you'd liked it to have been, sometimes that has damage, sure, but better superficial damage than a head on collision with an iceberg. That's the situation BTC is in now, Segwit has completely destroyed it, Lightning has subverted any value it might otherwise have, and it stands to be completely destroyed as miners simply abandon it because it makes better economic sense to mine the real Bitcoin. That's how things are, and all the whinging and bitching and moaning in the world from you isn't going to make the slightest degree of difference to it.
Bitcoin Maximalist TONED VASE said all altcoins including bitcoin cash (BCASH LOL) are going to zero because they are all illegal scams and the government will protect bitcoin by throwing everyone in jail.
DON'T GO TO JAIL, SELL YOUR BCASH
Ahhh Medieval Peasant Haircut Man. That guy is so emblematic of the clueless fucks who blindly follow core without having the slightest idea what's actually going on.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWvKMu7OYV4
>its a scam by the largest holders crypto
>d-don't look at the l-largest w-wallets pls
>the largest wallets already dumped
>n-no there is no public b-blockchain to prove this
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF YOU FUCKING KEKOLDS
both have 10+/-minute blocks so...
0-confirmation is credit.
sub-chains like LN
Teechian like LN
popular among merchants
hmmm...
30 day hashrate for bch has increased by almost 2% since I last looked, nice!
excellent observation and post kind sir
what funny is btc dominance drops 5% while "other" (other means shitcoins) rises 5% all the while bitcoin cash stays at 5%
Imagine not understanding bitcoin this fucking hard.
You seem mad, and your emotional impulsiveness is evident. Are you feeling regret that you backed the wrong horse? Lightning is coming along fantastically. No one cares that some businesses have adopted Bcash since no one uses it to buy things.
Regarding Lightning, a few months ago you said it was vaporware, and now you've moved the goalposts. While you bitch and moan, Bitcoiners are building things and writing code.
By the way, here's a hint about Asia: they want to make shekels. They want to gamble and get rich. They don't give a fuck about using a "global" payment system. So when Roger uses his aggressive salesmanship skills to convince a coffee shop in Tokyo to accept bitcoin, they're doing it because they think it'll make them more money (and get Roger off their back), not because they have all of a sudden become crypto-anarchist libertarians. You're aping Roger's half-baked talking points because you are either paid by him or a highly credulous follower. No one's buying that shit outside of the widely-scorned Bcash echo-chamber.
fuck off with this dead meme already.
god it wasnt funny in the first place and is just plain dumb normie-tier humour
>b-b-but this bank is a g-good bank
nigger please.
go play Titanic with your waifu weeb and leave the real men to their work.
Ultimately, innovation comes with necessity. And the necessity for modern cash in underdeveloped countries is far greater than in developed countries.
If a cryptocurrency cannot provide the basic functionality of cash with low fees, and instant and reliable transactions, it automatically excludes most of the world’s population.
champaign*
>Chinese businessmen who don't give a fuck about liberty or any cypherpunk principles.
Fantastic. You do know what businessmen like though, right? PRODUCTS THAT FUCKING WORK.
LARGE DATA CENTERS, LARGE DATA CENTERS?! OH FUCK GUYS ITS OVER!
But the bitcoin community doesn't care about global adoption, they care about store of value and rising price in terms of fiat. That is their selling point and they are sticking to it.
go back to Jow Forumsbitcoin, corecuck
Bitcoin works and is improving all the time. Dogecoin and Feathercoin also "work" just like Bcash. No one cares.
Satoshi was brilliant but not right about everything. Every major cypherpunk, including the best candidates for Satoshi (Szabo and Hal Finney for example) see fully the necessity of bitcoin being a multi-layered system as it is evolving into today.
>see fully the necessity of bitcoin being a multi-layered system as it is evolving into today.
The main problem BCH fans have is that BTC is intentionally crippling the main layer to force users into second layer.
> Are you feeling regret that you backed the wrong horse?
Yeah.. I'm.... real cut up about my 134% rise in the past thirty days, especially when I could've been in on that sweet 31% BTC action. You've got me, oh god, it feels so good to cry, it all started with my mother you know..
Ay yo hol up, is you doin' that fancy "Projectin'" thing they be teachin us about in psychology tha other day?
> coming along fantastically.
If by fantastically you mean, nobody is using it and it still is not a decentralised scaling solution, then I would say your definition of "fantastically" is not useful.
> moved the goalposts
Wrong, the goalposts were always; a superior decentralised scaling solution as compared to the original vision of scaling on chain. It has indisputably failed to even approach accomplishing that.
(c)
>Bitcoin works and is improving all the time
You can lie all you like user, but people here aren't interested in it or your vaporware.
>muh cypherpunk
fapping to Adam Back and his shit solutions to problems that never existed is a terrible way to shape your philosophy. Satoshi never had a problem with 2nd layering, however making it a requirement IS the antithesis of bitcoin.
>inb4 using lightning/segwit to avoid $1000 fees and week long leadtimes are a fucking option
also kys
> BTCkikes are building
Bad things and useless code that just digs their hole deeper, and their chain is going to die, too bad, so sad.
> Asia: they want to make shekels. They want to gamble and get rich
Here's a hint about humanity. That's what the entire world is doing.
> They don't give a fuck about
They may not explain it that way and may not personally intellectually grasp that that's what they want. That doesn't mean it isn't what they want, anymore than when I have skinny big titted bimbo bitches thrown at me with an oral fetish I don't have to be aware of which evolutionary buttons they're pressing to know I want to fuck the shit out of them. The rest of the world is sick to death of the kiked out international finance system and it's US backed thuggery vis the petrodollar. It's going to die, get over it. This last ditch attempt to replace it with a kiked out lightning network where you can redo bretton woods 2.0, it's not going to work. And what normies intellectually understand about the situation is absolutely irrelevant to the economics which dictate the above inevitable outcomes.
So you can bitch and whinge and moan about muh roger until the cows come home, and all it tells me is ur mad bro, and frankly I don't give the slightest fuck, your pain amuses me and I will be glad to see your shit tier hijack attempt eat mud and burn dollars.
Didn't say they were a good bank. Said they had divergent interests from wall street kikes. That's simply accurate.
second layer solutions, just like Satoshi envisioned
yeah, what a genius, does he make your pussy wet too becky?
>force users into second layer.
by not fucking with the money maker? something cashies can't understand becasue all the money in bch is owned by Ver, Ayres, Wright and Wu... you don't go fucking around with the goose that lays the golden egg. Let fuck boi ver create Frankenstein's Monster. Let fuck boi Lee test the segwits... leave the Cash Cow alone!
seriously, I thought economic central planners were the antithesis of cryptocurrencies.
The limit (which will be raised, btw) is seen as a necessary security parameter to maintain decentralization by having as many full nodes as possible running in a variety of jurisdictions around the world. Calling the base layer "intentionally crippled" is highly misleading, but another example of Roger's clever wordsmithing.
>Roger is a libertarian therefore he knows about computer science
>More incoherent, butthurt modest-IQ rambling
Funny no one even mentioned Adam Back until you did. But he's a pivotal figure in the history of Bitcoin. Without his contributions, Bitcoin's PoW couldn't exist. Without Roger, nothing would be different except perhaps there would be less vitriol and divisiveness in the community.
>all the money in bch is owned by Ver, Ayres, Wright and Wu
twitter.com
Lightning network in action. Bcash shills are shitting their pants right now.
You... You know that they intend to move the bulk of revenue generation on the BTC system away from the miners that secure the chain and onto their kiked out central banking hubs, right fuckwad?
What am I saying, of course you don't fucking know that, otherwise you wouldn't be talking about the insanity of attacking the goose that is laying the golden eggs, whilst the farmer next door is buying it a nice new barn and offering all the attractive goose treats they can find.
Fuck, it really does stun me how amazingly stupid you people are. No wonder you actually listen to Tone Vays and his ilk unironically, they actually are more intelligent than you, I can't believe that's even possible but it clearly is.