Shrimp/Snail/Mushroom Farming General

then why do you want to farm vermin and bugs for pocket money you fucking mongoloid?

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>Guide to shrimpless cycling:
fishlore.com/aquariumfishforum/threads/ammonia-instructions-for-a-fishless-cycle.19627/
>Freshwater shrimp keeping guides
fishlore.com/aquariumfishforum/resources/freshwater-shrimp-keeping.23/
aquariuminfo.org/rcs.html

>Shrimp diseases and treatment
shrimpcorner.co.uk/blog/post/18-common-freshwater-shrimp-disease-treatments

>more to be added as the meme continues

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How profitable is it farming either in an apartment, provided I have 1 room at disposal that I also happen to be living in? Mushrooms probably need dark, cold basement, or? How big of an aquarium to make $500/month on shrimps? Swimming pool-sized?

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Not sure about the shrimp or snails, but oyster mushrooms can make you a good bit of money. They do so bad with shipping that they're impossible to get other than locally, and high end restaurants will pay good money for them.

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I'm doing it
Glad to see my general is getting use. Those are good resources

bump

All my shrimp got AIDs and ded :(

You could make stackable terrariums for mushrooms super easy, they don't need mush room

cool, about how much is the initial investment and how much work is it?

>they don't need mush room
>mush room

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I used a closet for my mush rig

Pulling around $200 a week with this oyster mushroom set up

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DON'T DO THIS NOW THE SHRIMPS ARE MY BEST FRIENDS AND I CAN'T GET MYSELF TO GIVE THEM AWAY TO GET THEM KILLED

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Was it actually profitable?
Holy shit, that's impressive. How many bags do you have?

Mushrooms will be maybe 150$ish, lower if you already have a nice pressure cooker. They're super easy to take care of, just follow a guide and be super sterile.

I'm at about $450 on setting up 5 20 longs. I haven't bought the breeding grade shrimp yet. Honestly that's going to be another $500

>oyster mushrooms
where do you sell it ?

High end restaurants need them because they are tricky to order online

Yea I don't remember the exact numbers since it was a while ago but roughly 300$ into 3000$ needing to buy more spores

For what its worth, if you're trying to make money growing mushrooms, you need to get an LLC or something because a lot of fancy restaurants and especially high end grocery (whole foods, Wegmans) won't be able to accept it otherwise. Its not hard to do that though

All you really need to do is file a DBA and you're good. Don't need and LLC, sole proprietorship works fine.

I'm a eurofag, so not sure how it works over here.

Also you'll make guaranteed bank with shroom growing(im actually starting to do the shrimp thing because of you meming faggots but i actually do gourmet mushrooms on the side, but im iffy about the returns, we'll see). Seek out fancy french/Italian restaurants in your area, and talk to the chef to develop a relationship with. A lot of times the chefs will create a daily special/fixed menu around whatever comes in as an ingredient in the morning. Learn to mushroom hunt as well. Chanterelles, Morels, oysters are good ones for $$$

Exactly, just something to put on paper because a Wegmans or Whole Foods manager can't just accept shit off the street, but can sell em as "local grown" once you have an official business going. This might not be necessary for smaller restaurants but the guy who gave me the idea to grow gourmet shrooms said that some will want that little sense of legitimacy

Are they difficult to maintain. Apart from the perfectly sterile environment

And how much does the set up set you back to bring that in a week?

As long as you get the sterile portion of the process figured out (the most difficult but just learn sterile techniques used and its easy) they're pretty low maintenance

>Chanterelles, Morels, oysters
Super difficult to find. Haven't seen either of them in years.It's mostly Boletus, some Clitocybe Nuda and shitton of Clitocybe Nebularis. Not sure how much either of them are worth. Probably not much.

It may also be worth it to look up organic mushroom regulations to hike up the price a bit, and it's worth it getting different colors of oysters.

Also, you only ever need to buy spores once if you make prints

There's a fuck ton of wild chanterelles in central/southern jersey in the pine barrens. Morels i know a few spots up north, and have spore printed both with successful grows. I'm gonna start again in a few weeks

I have been buying this shit. I am ok with it

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So far mushrooms seem to be the best option in terms of initial cost, space used and profitability.

I want to use the waste heat from crypto mining to warm the water. Poor shrimpies need a decent amount of power to keep happy. Any extra heat will be recycled to power my hydroponic chili farming rig. Chili's are a great earner user, I'd add them to your long term holds too.

I was actually thinking of buying some land once I have more in crypto and growing habanero and other exotic chilli. How much are you growing?

Chili's user. Been killing it, they grow real fast. Use indoor hydroponics and to heat them, mine monero and water cool the GPUs, then use that to heat the hydro kit.

Also, looking at growing medicinal herbs for sale to hippie natural health boomers. Some BIG money there user. Don't need much space, and the money pours in.

That and you'll probably not be stepping on anyone's turf if you live in a more urban environment, its really high in demand people pay fucking $30-40/lb for chanterelles, $60-100/lb morels.

Truffles are pretty much impossible to farm unless you know some spots but those go into the hundreds of dollars/lb especially for white truffles

>Hydroponic chili
Holy fuck i used to do this too. Ghost chilis, Carolina reapers do really really well

My dad's been growing chillis on his window's ledge for years, maybe 4-5 plants, but it seems like I'd need at least 20x more to make it worthwhile.

A LOT actually for a small setup, like 10kg last month. Yeah habeneros and birds eye mainly. I'll expand at some point. For other IRL mining ventures, I'm looking at medicinal herbs to sell to boomer natural medicine stores. Some of those are expensive as fuck, as in higher margin than weed. Use a nice hydro setup, should be worth some serious cash.

Shrimp

>higher margin than weed
Care to share?

You just need proper hydro gear user. Once you have that you can just put it in the garage or wherever. Eventually I want my house to be this fully self contained money making box I just happen to live in. Thinking of making a blog for Indoor Farming. Maybe even create a whole decentralised indoor farming coop movement kek.

The shrimp thing is only part meme, there's a ton of shit that's actually profitable if you're a NEET with a garage.

>decentralised indoor farming coop movement
ICO when?

shrimp side connnnnnnnect gang

Kek, no. Don't want every pajeet out there discovering this idea. But Dyor user, look up prices for common supplements, then look at which are high yield and fast to grow. Look at stuff bodybuilders use (lurk Jow Forums for a while), hint hint. This is really untapped, often only a handful of suppliers using old time farming methods or chink farmers shipping crap quality in bulk.

Soon user. We're gonna put all food on the blockchain, it solves SO many problems it just makes sense kek

>The shrimp thing is only part meme, there's a ton of shit that's actually profitable if you're a NEET with a garage

This. Making money with little side projects like this is super easy. Gourmet garlic is another good one

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Yeah, I knew someone doing garlic, seemed legit. Also microgreens, someone I wagecucked with a couple years ago did that. Basically baby veges, and health nuts would pay premium to eat them. So you just germinate and sell em like a week later. He did well, stopped wagecucking at least (System admin).

>Look at stuff bodybuilders use
Is it an absolute meme? If so, I know what.

STOP DERAILING THE SHRIMP THREAD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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If you know a bunch of druggie/college fags like I do you can make yuge profits doing small psychedelic mushroom grows in a spare room. You could even start farming oyster mushrooms in your garage as a front for even more money.

>microgreens
Seems pretty legit. Might try this out.
thepennyhoarder.com/make-money/side-gigs/microgreens-side-hustle/

only sell to buyers looking to adopt and tell them interview required

ok bois get this dude outta here

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It's legal to buy the spores online too.

What about growing green barley and grinding it into powder? Shit costs $100/kg.

You sure?

Short Australian mortgages.

You'll have to check where you live but it's legal in most places. If it isn't legal then you'll have to take a spore print or tissue sample from a wild specimen and do some serious agar work to obtain a clean culture.

Are we talking about oyster mushrooms? Wtf? They cost 30$/lb?

Fuck, I can buy them for 2-3$/kg where I live. Clearly we're not talking about the same species or something. Why would they be this expensive..??

I think it was funny

Chanterelles is a different mushroom. It's fucking tiny, no wonder it's expensive.

Oyter mushrooms cost around 5€/kg where I live, but perhaps you can get more for them if they're fresh. If you can grow 10kg/week then it's nice. Not sure how many bags you need for that.

Stop assigning emotions to the insects of the oceans and lakes. They're less active because there's less competition for food. A well fed shrimp doesn't move a lot.

Can I live off shrimp? I'm not confident about being able to sell off my shrimp (making deals with people, transportation, etc), but if I could eliminate my food bill that would save me a few hundred a month easy and I think it would be worth it.

The farming part seems nice, but how are you supposed to find people to actually buy it?
I have no social skills whatsoever.

What about raising corals/fragging for money?

Sure you can, user.
I guess you can e-mail restaurants in the vicinity, or sell at some open markets.

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Danke, may many gains flow your way

Dude, the indoor farming community already exists. Do you really think you've figured out something new? People have been growing crops in cities for a long time.

Pajeets won't get into this, it's too much work and too high an initial investment. Pajeets only swarm on low cost shit and low hanging fruit. Plus, they can't use their garages, because their parents live in there.

Grinding it turns your product into a processed food item, and then a whole asston of regulations and laws apply.

Selling produce whole is the only way to go, because the government won't be all over you. Once you chop it up, or change it in anyway, it's a completely different deal.

The kind of shrimp being farmed in these threads are cherry shrimp - while they're eaten in Japan, it's extremely rare to see them sold as food here. From what I've heard, they don't taste very good, and don't have a lot of "meat". Most eating shrimp are prawns and whitelegs, both salt water species. You need BIG tanks to grow shrimp to eating size. You'd need a commercial-sized operation to grow a reliable source of food for yourself, so the answer is no, you're not going to eliminate your food bill with cherry shrimp.

Raising corals is a thing, but it's got a very high startup cost, it requires a lot of room, water, and energy, and it'll take at least two years to get your first viable specimens. But people are doing it, there are several communities dedicated to doing it. Tank grown corals are VERY lucrative as corals are getting harder to get for tanks.

Do you need any state permits to sell to restaurants?

Thoughts on tokenizing lettuce? Harvestable hydroponically every 45 days so short life cycles.

There are a lot of greenhouses for sale in Ohio which has a lot of access to most of the US population.

Been worried about if hydroponic coin would be a security.

Would be cool to have each table be a masternode

>Females of the freshwater shrimp Caridina ensifera are capable of storing sperm from multiple partners

Not so different from human females

For unprocessed produce, depends on the state. There isn't much regulation on it, but you might get inspected. Start reading up here:
urbanaglaw.org/food-ag-and-health/
for whatever state you live in. Unprocessed food is pretty easy, vegetables and fruits are pretty simple, same for fish and venison. If you don't want to visit every restaurant in your area, and can produce a regular crop of something, look into a small stall or table at a farmer's market in your area, and sign up with local CSAs and groups.

Does that apply to juicing as well?

Gonna have to look into europoor regulations on this. Probably would get away with it on a small scale though.

Thanks! Finally, I'm assuming you set up an LLC?

Yes, juicing is processing.

I don't do it myself, I worked in the food industry for over 12 years, and the particular aspect of the company I worked for brought us into contact with a lot of small farmers, and restaurants. I knew one chef who got things like rosemary from neighbors who grew it as groundcover in their yard, and grew all of her own herbs, and sold the surplus. Plus, i grew up in an area where a lot of people had roadside stands for things like corn, apples, cherries, pumpkins, and all kinds of produce, from backyard operations.
If you grow/raise something, there's a market for it. Farmer's markets are a good place to start. My neighbors had almond trees, and they'd sell the harvest every year for a couple hundred dollars. (Until mexicans discovered the trees, and would strip them overnight, so they took pomagranate trees, and would make a pretty decent profit off them - she'd sell a big chunk of it to zoos in the area, for animals that eat them in the wild.
I'm not a hippy, or anything, but I've always been supportive of this kind of shit. Growing up, we had a small truck garden, that fed us pretty well for not that much work. Once my mom started canning, we had more food than we knew what to do with.
I don't have the ability to do anything right now, but I have some plans/ideas for the future. Fuck Monsanto and the other farming combines, I try to buy local when I can.

Truck garden? Like, growing food in the bed of a pickup truck? Square foot gardening on wheels? Do tell us more.

It's shorthand for a garden big enough to require a small truck to operate. Bigger than a small garden, like 10x10', but not big enough to be called a farm.

>fishlore.com/aquariumfishforum/resources/freshwater-shrimp-keeping.23

fishlore.com/aquariumfishforum/threads/ammonia-instructions-for-a-fishless-cycle.19627/

You post ammonia treatment but another post is saying any amount of amonia could kill the shrimp

Threads like this on biz make me smile.

I encourage anyone interested in mushroom farming to check out any book by Paul Stamets; guy wrote the book on Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms.

Even if you don't turn any of it into an income source, growing your own food will offset your expenses, fill your free time with an interesting hobby, and give you a sense of fulfillment. We're all gonna make it, but it takes work.

I just try to help out.

The ammonia is for cycling user.
In short you are building up benifital bacteria in your filters for the ammonia cycle.
Ammonia turnes into nitrites which turnes into nitrates
If you don't have this bacteria in your tank then when your shrimp produce ammonia from waste it won't be converted into anything and they will die
The ammonia cycle is the first step to any aquarium regardless of species.
That's why it says shrimpless cycling