Americans rebuilt Germany with the Marshall plan despite all the ignominies they did during the war and all the GIs...

>Americans rebuilt Germany with the Marshall plan despite all the ignominies they did during the war and all the GIs they killed.
>Germans are the most Americanophobic people in Europe.

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>West germany
>1448
Honestly we should have rushed for Berlin and installed Hitler as leader of west Germany. Instead he had to commit suicide since the commies reached berlin first

We arent tho also in the last ten years they spied on us and blamed us for not joining the iraq war.

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Imagine a germanic europe and instead of medshits there would be americans

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>french spreading lies about Germany again

>Chad Germany taking Americas money and not giving a fuck about them after

based

Based. Fuck the mutts

The Marshall Plan was a waste and did not contribute in any significant way to the rebuilding of Europe. All it did was retard more free markets and give the Americans an excuse to impose their own self-serving economic interests on Europe. It was the lowest form of opportunism.

>give the Americans an excuse to impose their own self-serving economic interests on Europe
someone is waking up

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All of you have self serving interests.. why do people make it like it’s only us that serve our own interests. You think Germany is going what’s best for everyone, or themselves?

>and blamed us for not joining the iraq war.

come on, they barely said anything to you

True, but what everyone dislikes about the US is how they always try to present themselves like the good guys who fight for liberty and democracy, so we have your hypocrisy, not anything else.

Germans love to role-play as victims.

The jews you mean.

They didn't rebuilt Germany, they built some jewish-american puppet who serves as their puppet and a military base.

The Germans are even worse than the Jews because the Jews did suffer for real in history.

Don't tell me you actually believe in the holocaust?

>completely ruined the cunt, literally burned it to the ground
>later in fear of the commies gave a few bucks (even a bit more than for Netherlands, yay!) to Germany
>W-why don't they insta love us?! ;_;

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Germany received 20% more than Netherlands.

Germans should pay us $850 billion of war reparations

So they rebuilt what they destroyed?
Did they revive the people they killed?
Can they remove their degenerate influence from our culture?
Can they remove the immigrants they forced us to take?

That damn sure made a difference.

Overall I really would like to know how much of the destruction could be repaired from that bit Marshall money. Can't really count the hundrets of thousands of civilians they killed, but at least the damage on the cities, the infrastructure, the economy. Would really be surprised if that money would make up 0,1% of that.

US is still occupying western europe to the point that some ''''''nationalists'''''' are now praising israel, defending US foreign intervention and want to preserve anglo-american culture.

>and want to preserve anglo-american culture

No offense, but Anglo-American culture is clearly superior to the culture of Auschwitz and Treblinka and goose-stepping conformism.

The question I can't get around to answering is this, mostly directed to the UK bros, Germans too. Was it worth fighting Germany?

Instead of going on a long tirade, I'll put it in one sentence, It would be like USA declaring war on USSR if the Soviets invaded the rest of Germany and USA declaring war on China if they took the Korean Peninsula.

Shouldn't have started a war then. You reap what you sow, kraut

>Marshall plan

THE PLAN WAS A HIGH INTEREST LOAN THAT MADE AMERICA SUPER MEGA RICH AND BENEFITTED THE AMERICAN BANKING CLASS WHO ARE GUESS WHAT...

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United States didn't help us, but why?

Maybe you shouldn’t have started shit famalam. Only the Germans whine this hard about losing. Even France got over losing

No one in real life gives a fuck but wouldn't you say that the marshal plan was extremely benefitial for america?

It was clear germans couldn’t install their own government that got uppity. Shit they caused two world wars after all because Germans are control freaks

I say it was more beneficial to Europe since it was used to rebuild. Hell we could’ve used those funds to built cool shit but we were nice and sad Europe was in ruins.

Never heard the high interest loan part but it’s hard to trust people with money when they just participated in a giant war that killed many Americans.

We readily admit it was beneficial for America. It's Europe that acts like their isn't a shred of help from America for anything that happened during and after WW2. Should have let the Soviets take the whole of the continent

>install hitler
somehow i don't think that would be a good idea

Well you actively supplied the soviets. But I would never blame america, it was purely the brits

Where does one even download a hitler

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At first, America should not help to Communists sending to them everything for free: from boots and powder to airplanes and tanks.
And Hitler would overcome the Soviet Union before winter of 1941

In terms of man power it’s easier to let the Soviets fight their ideological war with Germans while we arm them with the biggest arms deal ever.

For America it required not only continuing to support the western allies but also transport their own troops and soldiers. As a german you should understand the logistics. And we opened up that second front and pushed y’all back. Battle of the bulge was nothin but a speed bump

In Austria duh

Not complayning, just laughing about the numbers.

We did more damage to Germany and Europe in the long run than the Commies did to the parts they occupied. They know this.

>destroy country
>whoops sorry we'll fix that

>wait you're not allowed to hate us, we FIXED you!!!!

>did not contribute in any significant way to the rebuilding of Europe.
Are you retarded? I mean, Marshall and his butt buddies were, since they let the UK keep their military and the French remilitarize.

No It's more like our brand new extremely powerful economy was hurting because the European market no longer existed so we needed to rebuild it.

Good fucking lord. Can you imagine being one of the german posters on this board? All of this, pompous, condescending, self-righteous, delusional posting is 100% due to the fact that they can't come to terms with how much of a cunt they have been for the last two centuries.
>America acted in their own self interests they deserve no credit for doing any good nor helping europe at all.
Because, you know. Germany has any fucking ground to stand on about world war two
>Yea but America helped supply soviet russia.
We wouldn't be supplying them shit if you didn't invade them brainlet fritz faggot. I wonder what country is to blame for communism anyways. Oh no shit that's your fault too.
The way you Germans think you can devote a century to destroying europe, exterminating undesirables, implementing eugenics, undertaking genocide...

Then poof you wash your hands a little and following 50 years of NATO/USSR house arrest you act like you have any moral high ground to stand on? It's fucking pathetic. All of your behavior is dissonance regarding how awful your country has been for essentially the entire history of unified Germany. Krauts are THE ultimate dindus in history

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marshall hated spain for some reason
it might have been the protectionism spain had
oh the irony

epic

this

and the nerve of their fellow Euro enablers, themselves ITT occupied by these these same Germans

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why would we invest in a market that won't do business with us?

We spy on everyone

>"fix it"
>force them to take turks
>"reeducate" them
>profit from the loans more than ever before
>expand your sphere of influence

would you rather have us let you fall into a depression?

All you had to do was remain friends with Stalin. You you had to do was accept the Russian offer of friendship and alliance that they had been offering for nearly 200 years.

But no, ever since Europe had a rough winter during Napoleon's day and Russia farmland was ok, you obsessed over slaughering the Slavs and taking their shit.

All you had to do, all you fucking had to do, was not betray Stalin. And you would have had plenty of spare strength and resaerch potential to get radar and VT fuses going and blast away the bombers.

But nooooo.
Fuck you. All the best Germans left Germany, giving everyone a false impression of peace loving, hyper competent, productive little farmer peoples who were willing to rapidly assimilate when asked. But thats the thing. All those decent nice and productive people left Germany, because it was filled with spiteful, autistic little shits who were ruled by Poles in denial, playing the same playbook Poland played, and losing for the same reason Poland lost.

Because everybody got tired of your shit and broke your country into pieces.

You want the degeneracy gone? Invite Russia back. Or expand your military budget to 4%, and everything you don't want to spend on your own military just cut a check to Poland.
It really isn't.

america was quick to forget about franco and hitler being best buddies when they decided to build military bases here

we never really cared about that, we just want you to buy our shit.

The Soviets actively supplied YOU. And would have happily kept doing so. They probably would have marched to Suez if you had asked them to. But nah, you just had to have Ukraine.

I was stationed at Ramstein for a while. I want to say German girls like me, but they mostly struck me as being desperate to get out of Germany.

lol you don't know anything. That whole war was ideological, we had multiple peace offerings to britain so we can stomp them together.

Uh no.
This. The Commies were better keepers, even when they had every reason to rip Germany apart.

eh, Stalin was never really a trustworthy person, see how Stalin treated the west after the war for example, despite us giving them a shitload of supplies during ww2

>You want the degeneracy gone? Invite Russia back.

This "Russia being antithesis of degeneracy" bullshit could be born only in heads of amerimutt subhumans brainwashed by Jews. It is even more crime-ridden, antihuman, perverse and degenerate than the jewSA.

Why didn't you?

oh yes that's why east germany still hasn't recovered from soviet occupation

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Because we don't want to die for Israel?

wars in the middle east weren't for Israel, it was purely american interest to keep third world shitholes from driving the price of oil down with their massive newly discovered oil reserves.

I guess it's more because Russians call the shots in Germany and Austria.

>unborn babies are real, kurwa!

10/10 family

lol nah. You're owned by jews
Yikes,

>wars in the middle east weren't for Israel,

So what did you achieve for America there? What was the gain of the USA in burning 7 trillion dollar in the Middle East?

Its telling that German immigrants and Germans who remained in Germany pre-1939 have such strongly different characteristics. Like its fucking astounding how different people descended from the various German diasporas are compared to those who remained.

>they can't come to terms with how much of a cunt they have been for the last two centuries
They can't come to terms that their choices were severely inbred Catholic retards from the Dark Ages, or a bunch of Polaks in denial. No really, look at how Poland fucked up and got torn to shreds and how it happened to Germany. Zero politics, repeatedly fucking over peoples who are defending your borders or supplying you with stuff, starting dumbass wars while surrounded by hostile powers willing and capable of fucking your shit up.

>Oh no shit that's your fault too.
What's funny is that had Stalin not taken power, their plan would have worked perfectly. Commie Russia before Stalin was a degenerate cesspit barely holding anything together, more focused on free booze and slave girls for Bolshevik Kikes than getting anything done.

Then Stalin put an end to all that nonsense, the degeneracy, the social experiments turning people into cattle, making Trotsky and friends enormously butthurt. Stalin was doing the work that Hitler would do.

Unfortunately for the German ruling class, the enemy has a say in things, and nations are pefectly capable of working together againt you. Too bad about that hyper autistic one track mind.

Like, Communism tearing Russia to pieces was the fucking plan. It worked. Then Stalin came in and was like "Hey, if we don't industrialize, we are all gonna die."

It didn't matter. Spain was a bastardized nation incapable of anything at that point. It hadn't been worth giving a fuck about for centuries at that point.

Gas up.

In what interest would the Jews have in keeping Saudi Arabia our friend? Why would the Jews want us to invade Iraq and Afghanistan? Afghanistan is way the fuck east, like 3000km from Isreal

We didn't rebuild Germany

The money given was less than one half of one percent of those country's GDP, and West Germany, which was the worst destroyed, rebuilt and rose to economic solvency much faster than France and the UK both of which recieved way more money than West Germany.

>Why would the Jews want us to invade Iraq

Good joke, amerimuttturd

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Saudi Arabia is owned by jews aswell

The Marshall Plan was a system designed to benefit the US producers of materials to boon their own economy and make European markets reliant on them for future gain.

There was nothing altruistic about it.

You guys weren't even in the war

>bomb virgin nations
>they give you money as a response

absolutely based

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>yfw Great Britain got 3 times more than Soviet Union while doing merely nothing for the final victory

>being desperate to get out of Germany.
See
>we had multiple peace offerings to britain
See? This is EXACTLY what I am talking about. Hyper Autistic One Track Mind Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

Why be fucking friends towards Britain, which had happily served the Rothschildes for 150 years at that point?! Why the fuck be merciful to France when there entire agenda was murdering you and beating you down, why not force them to use their fleet or burn Paris to the ground with Parisian in it? The ony thing either had said or done to or for Germany at that point, for decades and decades, was declare imminent desire to murder Germans, and bring Germany down into the dirt.

Meanwhile, Russia, then the USSR, had been offering hands of alliance for just as long if not longer.

You dumb motherfucker.

>burning 7 trillion
For starters, we make money when we go to war. It's called the military-industrial complex. Secondly, the dollar is directly tied to the price of Oil. It's in our best interest to keep oil demand high and expensive for the rest of the world but keep ours cheap. How are we going to do that? First let's become huge friends with Saudi Arabia, they'll give us a killer deal on their oil. What's that? Some dumb sandmonkey is trying to invade our friend Kuwait who also gives us a great deal? Let's invade him so he stops. Also let's drop a huge reconstruction deal with Iraq when we inevitably bomb the fuck out of Baghdad. Afghanistan was also similar but we failed miserably

I sense that no one in this thread has an relation to money on a national level

Even when adjusted for inflation, the total amount of all 3 years that m*rshall plan "aid" (credits that had to be repaid) is less than Germany's "ministry of culture" spent last year

>Meanwhile, Russia, then the USSR, had been offering hands of alliance for just as long if not longer.

Russia and USA are two jew-ruled countries, that's why Hitler had to destroy them. If he defeated Soviet Union, Britiain would give up, and your jew-ridden satanist motherfucking shithole would be next on Hitler's shit-list.

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spain fought the civil war wich was a proxy war of germany and russia 1936-1939
commies lost that war i thought americans knew that

Nah Saudi Arabia just likes being rich

The Marshall Plan was nothing more than a super high interest loan that gave lots of production work to the US market while hobbling Europes own internal markets by making them effectively buy 100% American products instead of making their own and rebuilding their industries.

It was an opportunistic backstab to re-establish the US economy while destroying the European one to prevent competition, all wrapped up in a nice little box that looked like a caring gift to a destroyed post-war society.

Because nazism was a direct response to communism? We had commies wanting to seize power here aswell, they were the 3rd strongest party. We didn't want any beef with Britain and just get our land back from France. Really man you don't know shit

this

Being this fucking retarded.
This might just be the most insanely moronic thing I've read here today with the illusion of saying some troofs.

>Romanian education

Sorry you got hoodwinked, gypsy

he's right though, we did it to make more money

Retarded posts from Canadians as usual.

>For starters, we make money when we go to war.

So these Middle East wars that you started by Jewish order were a very shitty business because they generated much smaller gain than cost.

It's been 70 years, you can stop trying to bullshit around the true intentions of what you did.

After France and Britain let Germany loot Czechoslovakia, then let them loot Poland, then performed like shit in France, all of which allowed Germany to acquire everything they would need for the invasion into the USSR?

The same West that actually thought that the USSR didn't have damned good reason to want barrier nations?
>It is even more crime-ridden, antihuman, perverse and degenerate than the jewSA.
Not even close.
They kept it White.
>wars in the middle east weren't for Israel
Liar. That's been exposed as pure bullshit.

That Emperor is butt ass naked and has been for some time.
This. Its funny though, because Iraq wasn't a threat, and what really needed to be done to secure Israel was invading and demolishing the Iranian nuclear program.

Its almost as if the post-Cold War administrations are secretly pissed at Israel, but can't openly admit it, and so do their job as Israel's mercenary as poorly as they can get away with. The result of Iraq was Iran doubling down on extremist rhetoric and being piss poor in Iraq gave Iran 10 years of practice of making IEDs and designing themselves to be even harder as a target.

Then killing Qaddafi and burning Syria to the ground convinced NK and Iran that no guarantee from the Judaic-American establishment was worth a damn, so both of them are never giving up nukes. It has also forced Russia out to come play, and integrate with Iran more, which means the Shia Crescent might become a reality. Possibly even a Shia-Kurdish Crescent.

Iran should have been knocked over first and Gaddafi should never have been killed. And over the last few years, everyone who has cared to look knows that Turkey enabled ISIS.

Somebody has done a bad, bad job.