Turtlecoin

100 sats by 2020

You forgot two zeros at the end

But in all likely hood, ya 100 by 2020 seems right if but goings-on goes 500k+

If bitcoin goes.....

TurtleMessenger will be released soon, and to send messages (for the first time on a decentralized crypto net) you have to pay 0.11 TRTL per 32 characters. That means that if this thing becomes a hit, the price of TRTL will increase in relation to the user base of TurtleMessenger.

However, if nobody cares about TurtleMessenger, at least we have a really cheap decentralized, anonymous and encrypted messaging service. Win win if you ask me.

That's actually a good idea. Glad I have a few trtls hanging about, even though I'm down quite a bit. Looooong term hold for me

Definitely a win win. Would this theoretically mean that someone would be "payed" to run a steady node to help with traffic?

Remember, there's no "down" for trtl. Just hibernation. :)

Fuck yeah turtle coin

Wait! I just realized that was a decimal in front of the "11" . Sweet, that's a very cheap price. Obviously this won't be no texting / emailing app but in a world that needs more and more privacy, fuck yeah. Now, get outta my shell :)

0.1 TRTL is payed to the miner of the block in miner fees, and 0.01 TRTL is payed to the receiver of the message. So basically you're sending 0.01 TRTL back and forth between two messengers, and 0.1 is payed to miners with each transmission.

So node operators would not profit from this, and actually, each messenger app will be running it's own node (unless a public node is used, which is also possible).

Damn I love this community

Can't see a downside to turtle coin, at this price you can't possibly lose money turtle could be the new tether?

Haha as of right now it is.

How many of you are bagholders who bought the top?

Not 100% sure of the average.... But I started buying at 9 and have been throwing more all the way down to 1. Between that and mining, (shitty ass Mac from 2012) I would say my average is between 4-6....

>biggest achievement is a message app

Have fun bagholding.

And why the hell would i pay to use a message app? Turtlefags are fucking dumb, do you ever heard of PGP encryption?

Turtle is cool but idk why people are making stuff up about a messenger app, nothing like that is being developed.

Well that's discerning.... Time to ask the discord.

Alright, discord confirms myth..... For now.... It's like an undescended testicle. It's got potential to be there.... But not right now.

Back from time travel, it's worth more than you think

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100 SATs by 202000?

Trips reveal a hater. 100 SATS by EOY 2018 confirmed

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Well, I am the developer of Turtle Messenger and it's true that I haven't announced anything to the community yet. Why? Because it's alpha alpha alpha prototype mode still.

But I can give you a quick rundown:
It's built with electron (works with linux/mac/win)
It can be used with a local, autostarted node or a public node so you don't have to sync the bc
It uses the payment id function (the hexadecimal message that can fit encoded ascii) and sends a payment with an encoded message to a turtle address on the other side, which is then decoded back to ascii and shown as a regular message.
Every payment can only contain 32 ascii chars, which means that for every 32 chars you need to pay 0.11 turtlecoin (0.1 for mining fee, 0.01 which is the minimum amount you can send)

So what are the advantages of having a messenger on the blockchain? Well, first of all, you're not tunneling unencrypted data through data miners that sell your data to anyone who asks for it. Secondly, it's more resilient since you have to take the whole network down to stop it, not just a company's server cluster.

Having that said, messaging on the bc is nothing new, it has been possible even with bitcoin but the reason to why it is plausible to make a usable messenger app with turtle is that it's really cheap, and the block time is so fast so that you get your messages across in less than 30s.

As of now, the price for 100 000 messages is just one dollar. That's why this is a big deal.

You know you can put more data into the extra field rather than the payment id field, so your message can be as long as you want, provided the transaction can fit in a block.

What make turtlemessanger better than p2p encryption?

I'm half aware, yes, but I can't find anywhere what the maximum length of the extra message is.

The bytecoin wiki says:
>String of variable length. Can contain A-Z, 0-9 characters.

But not how many chars, I guess I will have to experiment. Either way you could use the extra field in addition to the payment_id field. Thanks for the heads up!

Well, first of all, it's as hard to crack as bitcoin, and with the Bytecoin background you're messages are tumbled, sort of like with Tor Browser, between a number of other peoples transactions meaning that it's impossible to tell even who sent to message, and who received it - if you could even tell that a message had been sent at all! Perfect for political dissidents or anyone with a need for private messaging.

Fairly sure it can be as large as you want. The daemon will reject transactions larger than about 125k bytes, but your transaction size depends upon the mixin values, number of inputs, etc. Of course the amount of inputs will be very small when you're only sending 0.11.

If you just allow the user to send messages as large as they want, and when you go to sendTransaction(), catch the "Transaction is too big" error, and notify them to shorten their message. If you set a hard cap of something like 115k bytes then you'd probably not encounter the messages being to large at all.

You should come into discord to show people what you're working on, and get included in the next weekly roundup.

It should be worth noting that while you can't tell who the messages are going to or from, a third party can read the data in the messages, though I'm sure you're aware of that.

Is it possible to make a Turtle Twitter type app or a Turtle Jow Forums that is user and immutable? Asking for a friend.

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SO why were those nice panties removed? They were perfectly SFW...

Pretty easily actually, yeah. Just need to post your content in tx extra, and if you want to @someone, or (you) someone, you could just include their tx hash in the extra field, and then match them up.

That does mean we went from 32 chars to 100k, right? In that case that's great news. Good thinking about the error handling too, I'll be sure to keep that in mind.

I'll announce myself soon enough, actually I'm already quite active in the discord and I also run a pool.

I was thinking about having the message data encrypted at rest to address the openness of the data, like a public-private key scheme.

I'm actually experimenting with a twitter-type application on turtlecoin too. I can't be bothered going into details rn but I'll be sure to follow up in the discord eventually.

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