Why don't you just move to toronto the best city in all of north america?

Quebec city is better, also isnt Toronto's crime been rising up in the last months?

>toronto metro
6 million
>quebec city metro
600k

Montreal and Vancouver are faaaar better than Toronto. T is San Francisco/NYC/LA rolled into one along with the degeneracy and multi-culti hell.

It's a shithole full of pakis and turks, I've been there once and literally everyone was some allahu akbar shit.

>>kinda sterile compared to chicago or new york

thats a weird way of saying clean and livable

Calgary made me want to kill myself the year I lived there.

why? i was thinking about moving there to escape from ontario

Can I become a data scientist in Toronto? I'm already a data science consultant in Germany
Is the pay good and will the company help me to move there?
It's a big decision since you have to organize everything literally from across the ocean.

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Becacuse Quebec City is better.

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quebec city has less than 1 million people it is not and never will be a great major city

>1.5 million dollars for a crack den
Ill pass, thanks

>new delhi metro
24 million
>toronto metro
6 million
What point were you trying to make again?

new delhi and toronto are both world cities and comparable

Ok so youre admitting that smaller cities are better but toronto is a major city so you cant compare them. Ok then new york city is much better than toronto. Toronto has more crime after all

>Ok so youre admitting that smaller cities are better
nah
>but toronto is a major city so you cant compare them.
yup
>Ok then new york city is much better than toronto.
sure
>Toronto has more crime after all
new york had third world levels of crime until it became a dystopic police city with few civil rights

On one hand, it's a very clean city that has everything you need, with good public transport and reasonable living prices. On the other, it's your typical zero-culture suburban hellscape. At least you can see the mountains on a good day.

>new york had third world levels of crime until it became a dystopic police city with few civil rights
Not true. Also your only argument that toronto being better than quebec city is that it has a higher population. That argument falls apart when you compare toronto to any city with more people

That’s propaganda

Toronto is great if you can afford it

Toronto is the worst city in Canada. Like... I would even rather live in Winnipeg than Toronto.

I would if I could, but that is not saying much, I would move anywhere if I could, I just wanna leave this shit hole, but I dropped college because I had depression LMAO, and now that I want to go back my parents can't afford it

Is Toronto this shit? I thought it was pretty much a generic big city without much culture but being a global-level big city alone kinda makes it a livable place. (Idk how tax works tho. Hopefully it's not NYC or SF tier crazy tax)

but then I'd have to live around canadians.

Already live in Prague

Because I want to study medicine.

Wtf is the difference between americans and canadians?

We’re much cuter and polite

Bitch you lyin

the city of Toronto is a typical city kind of like New York. It has pockets of culture and great places to live, along with meh ones. The area around Toronto is a crapshoot, anywhere from multimillion mansions, housing cooperatives, typical suburbia, apartment living or industrial areas.
Most people think Toronto is the hive of scum and villainy and the most disgusting liberal degenerate San Francisco of Canada, but the reality is that it's the biggest city in Canada, and most of the stereotypes of the big city get lumped on it. The cost of living is high, even by Canadian standards, and it lacks the small-town or close feel that a lot of other towns and smaller cities have in Canada, but in return it has an enormous diversity in opportunities, real estate and cuisine. It's different than most of the country, and tensions arise because of it.

they wouldn't let me in

keep boxing shadows champ

is there many chinese in toronto?

This pretty much, also Etobicoke is probs the best area to live in.

>No one mentioned Ottawa yet

I went there yesterday and it was by far the most livable city I've been to

>but the reality is that it's the biggest city in Canada, and most of the stereotypes of the big city get lumped on it.
Yea, that's what I got. I've never felt it to be as 'liberal degenerate' as SF or as crime-ridden as Chicago. To me, it was just a generic big city.

Wonder if real estate is fucked like NYC or SF tho or not so bad like Chicago or Philly

Ottawa is so friggin boring I wanted to kms when I went there.

You won't fool me twice leaf, never going back.

Sir Peter Ustinov famously said that Toronto is "New York if it were run by the Swiss." It was not meant as a compliment.

What happened to you in Toronto, did you get your heart broken by a Canadian chick?

>cuter
lol
>polite
too polite for your own good

Fuck that nigga

>I don't speak Canadian

Nor does anyone in Toronto

Lol you just mad that we know how and when to say please and thank you. Americans are legit one of the rudest people I’ve ever met.

When I went they had a light show at parliament hill, Jurassic park with free pop corn on some street, and a live concert all within 10 minutes of walking. Plus the food was great and Byward market was fun. 10/10 experience.

Almost everything

They need to keep their grubby fucking hands off mah handguns

The fuck do you need a handgun for?

Give me visa and perm. residency - I will move

This
If you have to live in the area Ottawa is vastly superior to Toronto.

Actually I wouldn’t mind a couple of Chilenos, I’ve only met like two Chilenos in Toronto. Where are you guys hiding?

>giving please and thank yous to C*nadians

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If i'm not a criminal, then why not?

Mostly from the white flight from vancouver. All the boomers sold out in van and bought here, driving up prices.

Not that guy but I don’t understand your logic. We haven’t been raised in a culture like in America where they are taught that guns are a fundamental right. I never felt the need to own a gun and I live in Toronto.

Why are there so many Sikhs there? I also saw a lot of black people but they weren't ghetto, they were normal like everyone else. The chinese are a given. Are there any other large ethnic groups that I should know?

I have been writing letters to Her Majesty as well as the Royal Navy desperately trying to get them to start impressing American sailors again. At the same time I have been writing letters to agricultural agencies in mostly the American south, informing them of Ontario's impressive farmland.
All of this in a desperate attempt to get the Americans to burn down Toronto again. I urge you all to join me in my letter writing campaign.

It's not as bad as NYC, but it's only slowing slightly, and the only way to get it down is to enact similar foreign ownership laws as NZ IMO.

Toronto is heavily neighborhood based too, and you need to look around before you buy. Often the problem is that houses sell so fast, you often have to make an offer on the same day, no time to think about it if you want to close.

The biggest thing in Toronto is the food though, I'd say it rivals NY if you know where to look. There's more restaurants than you'd know what to do with, I suggest Anthony Bourdain's episode on the City. Places like Liberty Village and Queen Street have a massive selection to choose from, often on the same block. It's the main reason I visit, other than family nowadays.

Pajeets, Koreans and Latinos

Most Americans aren't really like that, especially in the suburbs. Guns are definitely a southern and Texan thing. This is coming from someone who lives in Northern Kentucky.

Ottawa is a quiet town, I call it a small town the size of a city. I love it because it's so calm, you feel removed from all the problems that people bitch and moan about all day. It's mostly a government and student town with agriculture around it, but ever since I moved here I've loved the place.

What's the point of owning one? They aren't practical for hunting. Do you own them for investment? Are you a serious collector?

Because I like to shoot, and collect them. That is a good enough reason. It's not so much, that I need it, as much as there is no good reason I shouldn't have them, that doesn't revolve around sensationalism, and fear mongering. I don't even live in Ontario, but the fact that some city across the country gets to decide what my hobbies can, and can't be is stupid.

I think I assumed all the koreans were Chinese. Is there a way to tell them apart? And I did see a lot of Latinos but I assumed they were mostly tourists for some reason.

How do they commute to Vancouver? When I went to Nanaimo from Vancouver, the ferry took like 1.5-2 hours or so.

There are actually many neighbourhoods in Toronto where you can find great food for a good price. The neighbourhood you mentioned actually have pretty expensive places. My neighbourhood has two viet resturants and a pupuseria that are fairly cheap and taste good.

Only jetsetters commute. Most of them move here to retire. We are a city pretty much focused on the retirement industry.

Toronto is becoming an unironic shithole. Take it from someone who has lived here their entire life and even tried to find the good in it.

Pic related is easily the most succinct description of it.

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This may be true but I have a strong attachment to Toronto. It’s hard to explain. I know there are definitely better cities to live in but I feel at home here. I’m too used to the way of life here.

Oh no, I just mentioned those two since they're so prominent

you can find good food anywhere, like the basement 'Tea Houses' that were a thing due to the alcohol bans, and are still around today serving great food in areas you wouldn't expect

Tea Houses are a wierd Toronto thing not many people know about anymore. Back when Toronto was a WASP city, alcohol was not served after midnight. So when you wanted to keep the party going, you would go to Chinatown and visit a tea house, order the special and get a teapot full of beer.

Michelin doesn't even do surveys in Toronto, they just started this year if I recall.

Also, if all you expose yourself to is Scarborough community housing, then of course you're going to have a bad image of the city. There's a thriving underground, communities, places to go and do things, but it's only there if you look.

Nah, I can tell you're some sort of transplant. The city has grown much worse over the past few decades and it is beyond saving at this point. Nigh unrecognizable and soon enough the rest of Canada will follow at this rate.

Is there a way to tell them apart?
Lol not really unless you talk to them. At least I can’t. Or you hear them speak to each other. Korean doesn’t sound like Mandarin or Cantonese. You’ll see a ton in their neighbourhoods like in North York and Koreatown by Christie and Bloor.
>And I did see a lot of Latinos but I assumed they were mostly tourists for some reason.
Nah we have a solid Latino community here. Not as big as America’s but still big. We have a lot of Mexicans immigrating nowadays. My neighbour actually rents his basement to a group of 7 Mexicans kek.

grew up in Thornhill and moved out, I visit every once in a while since most relatives live downtown.

It's not the same town as it used to be but if you want the world to burn it'll look like it. There's things going on that aren't on the surface of the dry city. Lots of car meets and a tuning/classic scene, food, bars and events. Older stuff like Honest Eds are slowly fading, but it doesn't mean that other things rise as well. I don't know the city as much as a permanent resident anymore, but whenever I come back I get hauled around and have a good time, it's just that the city is getting cost-prohibitive and you don't have that same blue-collar mix that the city used to. It's a shame the Toronto of the 80s is gone, but the city is constantly changing and that's something people have to come to terms with when you approach this level of scale and development.

Also Quebec City is the most beautiful city in Canada, for the record.

>I never felt the need to own a gun and I live in Toronto.
Wow what a surprise.

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Isn't that where there are big riots after every hockey game?

N-no

The difference is that only Canadians care about the difference.

you might be thinking of the 2011 hockey riots in Vancouver
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Vancouver_Stanley_Cup_riot

>he hasn't the saskatoon pill

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Only Canadians know about the difference

There is no real difference and no actual Canadians outside On*ario think there is

Because It's not Quebec City, the best city in North America.

Some people just like to collect, and shoot guns, and should still be able to, even if they live in a city.

I live in BC and there is a difference. Having American relatives come up from fucking Oregon to visit really drove it home.

How so?

What are Americans like? I’ve never met one before

>I live in BC and there is a difference
There's no difference between Cucklumbians and On*rians.

If I married an American, would I have betrayed my people?