Being childless should be taxed

My mental torment is enough.

Because of demographic decline in Europe that will wreck us all in the long term.

Some of them yes, but if you pay less taxes if you have children more poor people will get them just for the tax cuts.

because children are necessary to pay for your retirement
by not having children you make the egoistic choice of forcing other's people children to pay for you once you are old

That's your problem. Why don't you fix it by yourself?

not my responsibility europes demographic is declining
What if i pay for myself by working and investing so that the government doesn't need to pay for me in my old age?
Would it be ok?

Women over 35 without a child are worthless

Wow, the jews really won in the end.

>tfw have to pay $10k no gf tax

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society still needs labor to keep going
since you chose not to have children, it is only fair that you get taxed more than those who made this sacrifice that is necessary for the continious existance of society

Paying those taxes would still be cheaper than raising a child, never mind a bunch of them. Such taxes would also encourage even more dual income couples which only decreases fertility rates even further. The only people I could see this encouraging to breed are the people on social welfare, like Nigerians

Besides, the principal of it is retarded too. If someone doesn't want a child, it's their right not to have one

What if i didn't ''choose'' to not have kids?
Then i am being punished by the government for things that are out of my control, seems as if you have been reading a bit too much Marx there Hans.

>pay for your retirement
You already pay taxes for that.

Just like you choose to drink booze and pay the tax included in its price.

>being this retarded
sure a single family can have few million children easily

Knowing I will have to pay taxes if I don't have kids will just make me even more autistic around women.

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genghis khan did it, no excuses

you are not being punished. You are showing solidarity with the couples who have the incredibly difficult task of managing job and raising children at the same time.
Since you will benefit from their children once they are old, it is only fair that you help them through your tax money

You dumb fucking retard, if i didn't choose to not have kids then?
Should we tax cripples because they got crippled? That follows your logic perfectly.
If you can punish people for things out of their control you are unironically advocating for textbook State Capitalism

I don't know how it works in Russia, but in Germany, your retirement funds pays for the currently retired people.
And once you are old, the working population will pay for you

Each of you retards can have 5 or 6 kids. How many do you have?

As i said, theoretically if i pay for my retirement myself, food, medicine, housing, whatever, just like in America where you pay for yourself.
Then i am just being punished for the sake of being punished because i opt out of the system.

>your retirement funds pays for the currently retired people
So that's where the problem is. How is it fair? Make everyone pay for themselves.

>Since you will benefit from their children once they are old, it is only fair that you help them through your tax money
How do old people benefit from people unrelated to them from the younger generation? If you're referring to state pensions and free public transport for the old, that is paid out of that person's income taxes they paid for 40 years

>few people having 5-6 kids will solve the problem
i sugguest you stop taking Krokodil

their children are already benefitting from my taxes
population growth isn't negative yet, it has just slowed. we need that in every country.

>few people
So only a few people are not childfree?

you're the only smart person in this thread

only if you can get a involuntary celebacy waiver

no you idiot
huge majority of people either have only 1 child or decide to not have children at all

It isn't negative only because we still reap the benefit of increased longevity. But the number of children and people in reproductive age is decreasing fast.

who will cook your food? make your medicine? Repair your house?

>be Jow Forums dad of any race
>redpill your kid
>becomes a shooting prodigy and starts with mom and sis

what about the people who are currently retired and whose money is already spent? what happens with them?

me? Who the fuck do you think?

you have the necessary skills to make your own medicine? and you will be fit enough in your old age to do home repairs?

So looks like the majority of people doesn't give a fuck about your 'problem'.

untill non whites will become majority
im sure then they will start giving fucks about this problem but it will be too late

I'm incredibly sceptical that poulation growth in any country will ever fall below replacement rate.

you sound a bit racist to be honest

You buy the stuff you need, and if you know that you will be prone to cognitive or bodily disabilities in your old age you start saving money for hired help.
Else you would just take care of your body through your youth so it will last you into your old age and do it yourself.
You pull your own weight here in life.

he already paid taxes for those fucks to go to school

nah
but the way having children is set up in the popular discourse, as 'an obstruction to your career' or 'an obstruction to living your life to the fullest' is really fucked up.

he said he'd pay privately for all of those things

it has to in africa, but its also heartbreaking seeing people try to survive through it, the mental illness it breeds in children

I've never understood first worlders that simply want their genealogy to end

YES

>Being childless should be taxed
S*viet union tier. Fuck off with your maggots.

It's not a case of wanting their bloodline to end but simply accepting that this is the end.

They've been fooled by the government. Why should I be the one who is paying for their stupidity?
>untill non whites will become majority
How is that important?

if you want buy stuff or hire help, you depend on other people's workforce. People younger than you = somebody elses children.
If nobody was having children, you would starve to death in your old age, because you can't eat the money that you saved

needs to get developed then the rate will fall naturally

wont happen because even if possible, embezzlement is too profitable

They have to give me money before they can tax me.

the moral argument is that they payed for the generation before them, and the next generation will pay for you
the realistic argument is because politicians care about old peoples vote

I already pay taxes for the fucks to go to school

he might save money, but if there is a shortage of workforce, his money will be useless

Which is the same thing pragmatically, if anything is more of coward's way of thinking

>the next generation will pay for you
That doesn't look fair either.
>because politicians care about old peoples vote
So let the politicians pay.

Are you fucking insane? Having children is fundamentally a selfish and irresponsible burden on humanity and those who shit out kids should be held to higher financial, legal and ethical standards.

it will happen but not in our lifetimes

that's a ridiculous thing to worry about, population won't fall that much.

SO FUCKING WHAT CUNT?
The population rise of within Europe has caused far more harm and destruction to the world as a whole than it has provided benefits.
You disgusting selfish piece of shit.

Having children should be taxed, or there should be a law prohibiting psrents from having more than one child. It's paramount that we keep Earth-chan's ozone hole nice and tight for future generations to enjoy, and the worst thing you can to the environment is to produce offspring that will drain our planet of its resources and contribute hundreds if not thousands of tons of Co2 to the greenhouse effect over the course of their lives.

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you don't see the problem with fact that your country will be overtaken by non whites?
look what's happening to Britain
You want Germany to end up like that? Go ahead.

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>by not having children you make the egoistic choice
Having children is ENTIRELY EGO DRIVEN.
Get some self awareness.
>of forcing other's people children to pay for you once you are old
As opposed to having children so they fund your retirement? You're a fucking sociopath. Human lives are more than cogs in the rat race to make your live better. What a fucking disgusting selfish piece of shit you are. Fuck off and die.

it is happening already.
western countries accept refugees and migrants, because population is declining, and all the real estate owned by boomers is losing on value. So boomers support an open border policy, else their wealth will lose in value

t.manchild
t.adult

>da JOOS are why I can't get a grillfriend

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You are obsessed.
Don't embarrass us anymore please.

>society still needs labor to keep going
Society needs INNOVATION to keep going.
CORPORATIONS require cheap mindless labour to keep going.
If you value the second then you fundamentally devalue the first.

politicians are only representatives. they don't have nearly enough financial means to pay for the retirement of the people

t. 14 year old

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>shortage of workforce
That's actually a good thing.

>DA JOOS

Lol you would still be a virgin even in a white only ethnostate

Society need consumer base that would buy all those products of innovation.

t. leftist

So they want votes, but can't pay for them? How is that my problem?

my country is allready being overtaken by poles and russians (we have 3 millions of each here).
But you guys integrate pretty well. And i see no fundamental difference between slavs and non whites

>ITS DA JOOS REEEE

how about you accept some fucking responsibility and improve yourself. Jews are evil but blaming them for your own failures only discredits White nationalism

>not a raging racist is enough to be called a racist

Fuck off to Wykop or any other incel haven.

>And i see no fundamental difference between slavs and non whites
i don't see slavs driving trucks into people

No, one is a choice the other is not.

why are you so agressive, man?
I am not the one who set up society the way it is. I just live in it and observe how it works

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making innovations is also a labour

>Europeans shouldn't have more kids and Europe should accept rapefugees

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>wykop
>incel
there he is
get back to r/polska you idiot

>Da JOOOS

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slavs killed much more germans than all non-whites combined

why do you think that?