V and w make different sounds

Now that I say some words out loud it seems like it's just another thing I've picked up subconsciously but it seems fairly consistent. We were never taught that w is a different sound in school, I think most teachers don't even realize it given their shitty pronunciation. Replacing w with v makes me sound like a pajeet or russian.

but it isn't a vowel as you use your lips to pronounce it

V in German is retarded as well, because sometimes it gets used as an F and sometimes as a W. So yeah, not really perfect either.

They're clearly distinct in Finnish as we don't have a large variety of phonemes if that's the right word
If you replace v with u in Finnish it sounds like an Australian aboriginal language and if u with v it sounds Slavic

Rounded vowels constitute exactly 50% of phonemes that are considered vowels.
All rounded vowels utilise rounding of the lips.

Try to say "why" slowly. It's just "oo-aee"

>late 1800s we realized that having both v and w is pointless, and just plain removed w from everything

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It is a semi-vowel since you need to fricate your vocal cords to pronounce it properly

No, it isn't. t. native

Yes, if you replace one with the other it's noticeable. But when people actually talk the two sounds sorta converge to an average of the two if you get what I'm trying to say

It's an approximant, and yes I've mentioned it's a semivowel.

Why isn't it called double v

>American education

it is in french

Huh, you learn something new every other day. It had to be a thing either way, the sound is too weird to be something specific.

>t. native
Hmm. I guess I am still adding lip constriction. If I try to do a full proper open "oo" it doesn't sound like "why" anymore.

Humans make weird noises.

we call it that

If you do it slowly it does indeed sound more like a U, but non-nasal consonants aren't meant to be said slowly in the first place, that's their entire point

Are you that English teacher?

No, but English is the primary language of Singapore and most youths speak it at home

It's a sound made from changing from one vowel to another.
W is the sound made from going from a rounded vowel to an unrounded vowel.
Y is similar except it's made from going from the "i" sound to another sound.

That's how you call it though, Alfredo Matías.

No, that's not really true
Both [w] and [j] are approximants and can exist between any vowels independently.

I meant with all the linguistics stuff about phonemes and whatnot. I find linguistics moderately interesting when it comes to how different languages are related to each other and how they can use different syntax to encode structure but the sound bit about alveolar frictives is just too autistic for me.

Phonetics and phonology are cool desu

Very application specific. I wonder how languages will evolve as using meat appendages to directly render acoustic signals becomes less important

They can but they're pronounced with the methods I explained though.

We don't use w in Swedish.

Whats the point of W ? Isn't U or V ( depending on the language) enough? Why did barbarians add it to the Latin alphabet?

we use both v and w frequently
all other germanics are pussyfaggots that got culturally slav'd

Latin originally used the sound W represents instead of the V sound.

lol what does the sound W represent that V or U don't?

The sound we use it for in English which is different from either v or u.

It's a different sound, it's what the "j" sound in IPA is to "i"

J sounds like i or g, another useless barbarian letter

>in ipa
Figlio manzare coglioni

no

dumb gypsy

>weeeeeeeeeee

>veeeeeeeeeeee

doesn't sound the same.

>there're people pronouncing V as F

>ueeee
>weeee

don't sound the same

>there are people pronouncing l as r

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English retains the older Germanic pronunciation of W.
German is retarded for writing a W and saying a V

Wellebeke --> Houellebecq

why cant you just use u? Oh wait you dont know how to pronounce u lol dumb ass language

Why is English more archaic than German in some regards?

Which you're speaking right now :)

Because of this.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_German_consonant_shift
Another difference if that English kept the Th sound while German changed to a D sound

They just need their own alphabet, like the slavs did with cyrillic

>kept the Th sound
Based :)
Too bad you didn't keep your conjugation though.

Yeah I don't get it either

don't you use that weird l letter for w?
always wondered what the relation between l and w could be