Inb4 in 10 years everybody will blaim the Uighurs when they start to rebell because they are getting opressed

You have literally cross on the flag

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Because it makes them violent.
And?

>Because it makes them violent.
They rebel because they want to separate, not because chinks are unbelievers.

> And?
Symbol of the another terror religion

Crusades was a tiny tiny imitation of jihad.

>zey ar beeg bat uee uoz smol!

>Symbol of the another terror religion
Somebody hat this fool

Look at tibet, in a few years it won't exist because chinks will literally have outbred tibetans and become the majority. They transport millions of chinks to their minority region to replace them. Same thing is going to happen to the uyghurs

> Crusades
As if it only one thing

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What about the millions of dead native americans and pagans who were slaugthered by christians?

It's funny you bring up ancient history for why Christianity is just as bad when the Muzzies are doing this to this fucking day.

Yeah, but they don't force tibetans eat frobidden food, beat for praying on streets and forbidden names, etc
Uyghurs suffer not because they are islamist terrorists, but because they are of different religion and live on their native land which they want to make independant. I wouldn't even care for independance if i was uyghur, if china wouldn't opress them so much.

Not even 100 years ago christians caused the two biggest wars in human history killing millions of people. That is not ancient history

I know, Russia should have never given Sinkiang to China to be honest, it should have remained a part of Russia

Stop bringing up stuff that isn't done in the name of religion, roach

kek

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And? Christ your whataboutism is getting pathetic

Neither is Uyghur independance.

Uyghur independence has nothing to do with religion, they are ethnically and culturally different people than the chinese. They lived in these lands for thousands of years and they have a right for self-governence and determination. The fact that you are quick to insult people when they give valid arguments shows that you are an immature person

> whataboutism
Learn a new word? I gave you examples of crist terror

norwegian and intellectual, two words that never go together

He isn't saying that uyghurs deserve their fate because their struggle for independence is motivated by religion, he's saying that uyghurs deserve it because they are of that fate (islam). You're missing the point he's trying to make (which is quite a childish one if you ask me)

Did you just learn it brainlet? I used it correctly once and it's old as fuck. Breivik wasn't Christian terror. Read his manifest.

Stupid American. Two words that do

>Breivik wasn't Christian terror.
He is from a Christian country and he is a terrorist, so that makes him a Christian terrorist, if we go by your logic here.

> brainlet
> Stupid
Nice.
Either way you will deny everything that hurts your safe space. Christianity is not better than Islam. Islam terrorism is more frequent now, because of total destabilization in middle east.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism?wprov=sfla1

>islamic terrorism is more frequent now because of total destabilization in the middle east
Bullshit, the problem of islamic terrorism is because of the quran's explicit approval of violence towards infidels, destabilization in country of origin is a factor but you can't deny that islamic terrorism is disproportionately higher than any other kind of religious extremism

you are a obvious tatar

True, but most of the terrorists are poor people who get supported by saudis and people with money. Low life quality, no education also attracts that even more, easier to manipulate people like that, just like peasants during heretic burning times. Those terrorists in USA and Europe are mostly second generation people, who have problems with fitting in and similar stuff, like it happens with american school shooters.
And? Tatars suck russian dick anyway, he is probably not tatar.

On no, they know
> destabilization in country of origin is a factor
Whole region, whole middle east. Imagine live in stagnating region for 2 century, cause of trade centers shift, then because of that being split between europeans and after somewhat free times suffer from dictatorships and poverty, caused by lack of education and institutes due to constant warfare, then whole Afghanistan thing caused new wave of terrorists sponsored by USSR and USA

>Christianity is no better than Islam
You'd have to be damn near retarded to believe this

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>"start to rebel"
fuck you germany those extremist cunts have been going all over the middle east as jihadis for decades
i bet you think the chechens are oppressed too

>the problem of islamic terrorism is because of the quran's explicit approval of violence towards infidels
It is a problem, though that's the least of it. Islamic worlds itself is at war with each other, because of how they should interpret the verses, plus all the sunni, shia, sufi, wahabi, salafi, khanafit shit

One thing is being an extremist in middle east, the other is being opressed by China because of your believes. And Chechens are not opressed, they are free to practice their religion anywhere in Russia, plus government overlooks their own rules and problems, like killing gays and similar stuff.

I would call them freedom fighters if they were somewhere in western yurope or USA.

I understand your perspective being wealthy swede surrounded by constant news of islamic terrorism, but at least try to learn some history and roots of the problem

>terrorists sponsored by USSR
find me one. afghanistan was a stable country in the russian's sphere of influence for decades, why would they do such a thing? it was the cia who started the conflict by funneling arms and money to the jihadis to force the USSR into an unwinnable conflict. the soviets were reluctant to get involved because they knew that afghans are crazy

"your believes" being a childraping, womanbeating jihadi must be oppressed. it is simply evil, anti-modern behaviour

because they are separatists
why do you support uyghurs

kek, this

>muh witchburning
most of them deserved it, cases were very well documented, the narrative the kikes show you on tv is bullshit btw
read Montague Summers "History of Witchcraft and Demonology"

But in China it's not?
It's not my beliefs and i don't believe that. Child rape has nothing to do with islam, catholic popes rape chidren as well, but has nothing to do with christianity. Beating women is a an old patriarchic tradition, that has no place in secular countries, everybody used to put women in places though, even chinks still do that.
>why do you support uyghurs
Because China opresses them, like no one does in the world right now. Separatism in good in their situation.

>most of them deserved it
How? Not only them, all non-believers and heretics were burned. Jan Hus, who basically created protestant movement before Martin Luther, was burned at cross himself, despite believing in God.

>like no one does in the world right now
they are forced into education camps and are forced to eat meat, a little better than the plight of rohingyas id say, similarly why do you not support rohingya separatism

Nah, I don't really appreciate the idea of separatism and that strange attitude to practice islam in an atheist country. Like, don't be a muslim in Vatican.

islam is a vile religion. child rape has everything to do with traditional beliefs which are synonymous with islam in these places.

heart to heart with you ivan i'm afghan from a lousy & powerful family, i've seen the worst of it and i can tell you that the chinese keeping a lid on the radical side of it is the best thing that's ever happened to the uighurs and it's necessary for the stability of the entire region. wish they had afghanistan too

I know that, but the chinks aren't about to let it go. Saw a headline on Jow Forums earlier, didn't went into the thread, but it said that the Chinese government will now consider islam as a mental disease, an "ideological disease" something along those lines, and give them the Soviet treatment against dissidents using psychiatry, electroshocks and tons of Haldol.
It sounds true because this is the asiatic way of doing things, meaning especially Chinese communists.
I'd say the longing of the Uyghurs is legitimate, they're not a historical part of China but rather belong to the Turkestani country group.

> it was the cia who started the conflict by funneling arms and money to the jihadis to force the USSR
Usa sponsored jihadists after USSR invaded Afghanistan assaulting Amin's palace with special forces
> russian's sphere of influence
It always was shared between russian (then USSR) and british (then USA) sphere of influence

>similarly why do you not support rohingya separatism
I do. I'm not sure about how geographically they are in Myanmar though or how true to those lands they are.

oh yeah, burning of old women who would sell weeds that caused abortions is sooo bad, also killing the most violent and retarded people in many geneations, this is the reason thier IQ is so high today and why they have these superior structures you cunt

also the crusades started after years on muslim invasion

no, you have the incorrect (but widely believed) timeline. it's known from us sources that the cia and carter acted first:

"Additional meetings were held on April 6 and July 3, and on the same day as the second meeting, Carter signed a "presidential 'finding'" that "authorized the CIA to spend just over $500,000" on non-lethal aid to the mujahideen, which "seemed at the time a small beginning.""

you wouldn't say it was shared sphere of influence if you'd seen the photos of the russian cultural centre back in the heyday. the us's connection to afghanistan had to be mediated through the pakistanis.

>slaughtered
they died of diseases and if you weren't thought to feel sorry for those few tribes you wouldn't give a shit about them
>boohoo some native tribe died, I am so sorry, I won't have kids now

>child rape has everything to do with traditional beliefs which are synonymous with islam in these places
Waht are you talking about? What does Islam has to do with child rapes? If they fuck femenine boys for money in Afghanistan, that's more of a part of their culture, that has nothing related to islam.
>i'm afghan
Good for you. What ethnicty are you?
They aren't migrants though, central asia was always filled with turkics. Xinjiang was Turkestan before.

>muhammad marries 9 year old girl, it's treated as the romantic ideal which all muslim men should emulate like all parts of his life
hmm

panjshiri

He married her prematurely, but it doesn't mean he had sex with her. Marriage is like a pledging loyalty in that sense.
>panjshiri
What? That's are region, no?

All turkic people will be removed from Turan
This is land of proud europeoid indo-european eastern iranians and tochars

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Taджик чтoль? Узбeки oбидeли? Я дyмaл вы бpaтyшки.
Also, marrying girls was not such a taboo back then as today, it's all over bible as well with slavery rules.

>tfw beheading twink russian conscripts with your big dull knife of revenge

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is this how you call your dick?

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Я ягнoбeц

Protestant movement in itself was a judaising heresy, and there is more to Hus that meets the eye/wikipedia. The Church always tried to reason and debate with heretics first, as they did for years in the case of the Albigensians for example, so did they with Hus. It took 7 years of agitation until Hus was finally excommunicated. He persisted in his activities, was to be imprisoned but sought refuge in Hungary and again persisted in his spreading of Wyclif's and his own doctrines until the Hungarian king had him delivered over to the Council of Constance. There he was finally sentences, persistant heretics can lead many souls astray and into damnation, so hence the severity of the punishment.

Also mind you that burning at the stake was a pagan habit, especially of witches (Tacitus for example describes the burning of a group of 'hallerunen', hell-witches, amongst the Goths). The Church had in fact tried to suppress the habit for a millenium but the civic authorities still applied it as a punishment in certain cases. Especially with the late medieval re-emergence of neomanichean heresy and the pagan mystery teachings (often former clergy were condemned for witchcraft, it is the predessessor of freemasonry).

And yet you don't have major christian terrorist groups in regions like south and latin america where the people are poor, the political environment is mostly unstable and corrupt and where the people are still very religious, islam itself is the problem and the poor state of the lives of those who become terrorists is merely a pushing factor.

>le Witch burning meme
Most of them were civil courts, even the Spanish Inquistion actively fought against them you Tatar subhuman

Native americans died due to diseases, and Pagans got converted to missionaries or through Sword, shouldn't have raided Christian lands

>ягнoбeц
Bac чтo-тo тaк мaлo, чтo мнe cлaбo вepитcя. A ты знaeшь фapcи?
>Protestant movement in itself was a judaising heresy
>neomanichean heresy
>debate with heretics
As in "you do believe in God, right? If not you are sentenced to death, cause of act of heresy. The way you defend killings of heretics, is non better than defending killings of non believers from islamist hands.

9 years old was the age of consummation
yes panjshir valley. tajiks if you want less specific

indeed, but the bible does not state that you must follow its words literally and if you try and innovate or dilute the meaning of the text you must be killed

Because Christianity already went through protestantism, technical and cultural advancements, while countries in central asia and middle east still are poor camelfuckers who live in deserts and have nothing better to do.
>Most of them were civil courts, even the Spanish Inquistion actively fought against them
That doesn't make it any better, just proves it was organized rather than chaotic.

Alright so then we agree that islam is backwards as fuck and it has major problems?

You don't have to follow quran word for word either. Also, does quran even mentions aisha being a 9 year old girl?

>poor
in fact the rich and landed in these places live it up. what really kicked off the fighting and was the genesis for that reaction against the saur revolution was the commies tepid attempt at fully re-compensated land redistribution. that's what started the warlords reeeeing about interfering kabulis.

it's a reason to support the chinese efforts at modernisation and redistribution. these problems are wealth based

I'm not talking about Islam, but about those countries and their state. Being any religion makes it even harder to push away from that.
Also, i'm tatar and i've yet to hear about tatar terrorist, that's jsut how people are in middle east and asia.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bid‘ah

it's sahih hadith and bid'ah covers all the sunnah

Well of course you have to see it in its era, but mind you it was Christian heresiarchs (and unrepentant, persistant heretics) who were severely punished, as heresy was considered worse than sodomy. Non-christian minorities; such as jews, and muslims for that matter, were not killed for their beliefs, they were however treated as second-class citizens and especially in the case of jews, often kicked out.

It's not about believing in God merely, if you mix truth with 5% lies you teach lies. That is where the term wicked originates, from candle-making (wick). It gives artificial light.

Because they are yughurs and islam is at least third if not fourth religion they had.

>even the Spanish Inquistion
I don't understand why this Protestant propaganda still works. A very simple search will show you that most people judged by the Inquisition were set free.

> even the Spanish Inquistion actively
Cool.
> Trying to teach me a history
> Appeal to a meme

What about extremist groups in indonesia and boko haram in nigeria? Sure you can say that all of those countries are shitholes but then why aren't there religious extremists in south america? Most south american countries are shitholes too. You can keep on denying it but islam is at the core of the problem and you know it

For a modern traditional catholic view on islam I mostly follow the views of E. Michael Jones, he is an often invited speaker in the islamic world btw. Of course we think the religion is wrong, but they did find a solution for the problem that lead to the judaising heresies and basically the modern financial world, which is, usury. That is a major victory on their part, as usury is strictly forbidden by our Lord, and the main tool by which jewish money lenders and their masonic puppets gained almost absolute power.

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So killing of non believers is okay in Islam by your logic as well then.
>Because they are yughurs and islam is at least third if not fourth religion they had.
You had pagan religions before, maybe you should re educate your christians in camps as well?
I was talking about quran itself, but ok, that works as well.
>why aren't there religious extremists in south america?
They have cocaine instead of religion, they still decapitate people. In brazil it's just normal folk who do that in favelas.

>jews
>masons
>heretics
I think you had enough for today

This. I really recommend the book of Montague Summers on this subject, "History of Witchcraft and Demonology". He was highly educated and spend a lot of time sifting through the archives of the Inquisition, providing citations for every claim.

I never said that, I was referring to a time period in which the civic authorities applied such harsh punishments. I don't think the Turks today sentence apostates and unbelievers to be impaled anymore too right?

good goy, don't do your own research, only trust the bread and circuses narrative our media provides you

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Фapcи ж язык пepcoв, лoл

I hate islam as any sane person but they have a right to live there, the chinks are literally outbreeding them and culturally genociding them.

>chechens dindu nuffin
kys, germ

Yes and there is also drugs trade in the muslim world and the middle east, the difference is that the middle east is also home to terrorists. You can keep blaming religious extremism on lack of opportunity and stability but we all know that islam is just an inherently violent religion or atleast approving of violence.

Uyghurs are fucking based despite being muslims. I hope that one day Ch*na will get utterly buttfucked by rebelling Turkic and Mongolian minorities