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STOP IGNORING PEOPLE YOU FAGGOT WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THE TAX MONEY OBAMA GAVE YOU REEEEEEEEEEE
MUSK BTFO
Caleb Mitchell
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Hunter Taylor
Almost all of the supposed subsidization involved has occurred: only as part of broad programs available to essentially every company out there (the federal electric vehicle tax credit); relates only to foreign countries (Norway’s or China’s incentives for electric vehicle purchases); is just an example of the typical practice of states/cities to offer tax incentives to lure companies (Nevada’s support for Gigafactory 1, or New York’s for Gigafactory 2); was created on the state level as a way of lowering air pollution (California’s CARB credits); or was created as a means of lowering operating costs (NASA’s occasional development support for SpaceX).
Also very notable: the form of “subsidization” that most people are probably referring to (even if they don’t know it) - the federal electric vehicle (EV) tax credit - applies to the first 200,000 electric vehicles sold by a manufacturer, and thereafter phases out. In other words, after the sale of 200,000 units, it becomes a liability for the company in question - as other manufacturers that have sold fewer units to date will still be seeing their models discounted. Tesla is very nearly to the point of the federal tax credit no longer applying - while competitors such as Nissan and others have a fair while longer to go, to their benefit and at Tesla’s expense. I’d hardly call that a subsidy.
Other than the federal EV tax credit, the form of “subsidization” that most people are probably referring to - again, even if they don’t know the specifics - are the Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing Loan Program loans that Tesla, Ford, Nissan, and Fisker were granted roughly a decade ago. Tesla, it should be realized, paid that loan off completely (+ interest) quite a while back - several years in advance of the payback deadline - which means that of all the auto manufacturers that utilized the program, Tesla was the first to pay off its loan completely.
lrn2 research, OP
David Baker
uh oh, better start announcing another futuristic megaproject that will never be seriously pursued but distracts from all the bad news around you
Jacob Robinson
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I WANT MY TAX DOLLARS BACK YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE
WELFARE QUEEN MUSK NEEDS TO PAY UP
Dominic Sanchez
How did he rip people off with paypal? Lmao. Also I recognize that account, the guy is some bugman faggot that makes shitty comics and cries nonstop about racism and capitalism.
Jaxson Brown
1. you don't pay tax cus you sit in mom's basement all day
2. he did, plus interest faggot
gtfo
Kayden Turner
Pays once still getting government money stops paying because he can't sell shit cars.
I can't live in a basement you idiot because I am below sea level.
Maybe their would a lot less fucking basement dwellers if Musk would not be robbing us blind to send fucking cars to space like a fucking retard.
Why the fuck do we need a car in space anyway and why is the government subsidizing it.
Kayden Price
i guess you didn't read any of
Luke Evans
>No source, just random wall of text.
I guess I am suppose to believe just your blob of bullshit over musk himself hanging up on people asking him if he is going fucking broke.
You know what I would do if I was retarded enough to steal from the government hang up on people every time they asked me what I did with the money just like musk..
HE IS HIDING IT
Charles James
Would it help if it was written in the Washington Post?
Landon Bailey
or you could just copy pasta to google and find the source but you're too fucking retarded to know how to do that so you say
>muh source
John Kelly
>yeah lying news.
>that can be bribed
>biased
> ect
IT IS TOO LATE GOVERNMENT MONEY IS BURNED TO HIGH HELL FLOATING AROUND IN SPACE ON A PIECE OF SHIT CAR NO ONE WOULD REALLY BUY
Adrian Gutierrez
>Why the fuck do we need a car in space anyway and why is the government subsidizing it.
Nobody wants to answer this. Just give me a fucking rational reason why aliens need junk people can't use.
Dominic Perez
The car was only simulating a payload, you fucking brainlet. They could just as well have put a concrete block in there but instead opted for the much better choice which was to use it for a great marketing gig.
Brody Williams
>concrete block
well to be fair people actually use this. Unlike shit musk makes.
Kayden Cooper
let the thread fucking die already OP
stop fishing
Chase Baker
Why are you shilling this hard to protect musk Serious question.
Brandon Barnes
i copied and pasted from the first google result
i've saged every post because it's a boring thread that another decent thread died for
Joshua Thompson
Because this motherfucker is helping all of humanity by building electric cars and reusable space rockets. What have you done lately?
Adam Allen
>helping all of humanity
OH YES, I REMEMBER THIS SCENARIO BEFORE
OH, YES! I REMEMBER MSM PROPPING UP A CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL B4
Joshua Sanchez
the villain from Atlas Shrugged, if there even was a singular one, was a government official, not a businessman
people on either side claim to love or hate this book but nobody actually read it
Brody Morales
just let the man build his space rockets. theyre reusable and the upcoming bfr is a far more sustainable rocket to take us into the future then the nasa sls.
just let them build the fucking space rockets. i dont care about the rest of it. im tired of decades without progress in human spaceflight. its time to go up.
Connor Thomas
>that numale cuckeyes who is obsessed with libertarians
Landon Howard
No one is saying he can't. I am just saying he can do it on his own fucking dime.
James Lewis
Socialism is literally "crabs in a bucket".