How can we make mexico less religious?

What I'm saying is, kill the Masons.

Sweden's social climate is so much worse off than Venezuela's

Any wikipedia lino please? I'm interested to read more about this

we already have that, they even have their own political party that won the elections

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristero_War

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristero_War

it was a weird conflict, even the KKK was involved

Pentacostals are the most based Christians

Make Mexico richer, or preferably make the majority of it's citizens richer. Religion is "the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions". People who aren't poor and suffering, living and working under shitty conditions, will find less to interest them in religion.

Mexico has an abundance of natural resources.

this

That's Mexico the country. Mexico the nation is only as religious as it's people are, and how much the country has in resources doesn't really affect their lives or how religious they choose to be as a result.

Mexico is poor because it's over populated and has had terrible rulers for 100 years.

Not only that, México cut diplomatic ties with the Vatican until the 90s, and religious ceremonies in public where forbidden, funny how a country so religious has had such a history of antireligion goverments, one thing that still remains is how the sepsrstion of church and state are so strong, anything that reseembles a break in that separation is met with strong opposition by the people, a few years ago the state goverment of Jalisco was going to give some money to the church for building a sanctuary for the cristero war martyrs as a tourism investment the protests and rejection of the people halted the investment and with that the construction all togheter, Also mentioning introducing religion in plublic schools in any capacity is political suicide

You need to become more religious, not less. You can never be too Catholic. Really you should thank God every single day that the Gospel was brought to Mexico's shores.

kys

chr*stians are scum, they are holding this country back

They tried this and had the opposite effect

I remember someone saying that the more you try to oppress or persecute Christians, the more they grow in numbers. For some reason, Christians are huge masochists.

Not really, gulf states are rich and they are religious.

Shame about the war memorial thing that actually sound interesting to see. Antireligion or proreligion govt can go either way. Govt are retarded by nature. Is the church there equally retarded? Govt can wipe it out easy pie. But if the church there is not retarded and has strong foundation, it just will backfire.

The key to wiping out religion in Mexico is to make the church there more retarded than the govt is. Change old folk traditions to be more like bullshit mass media culture and it will disappear within the year.

It's "the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church"

Make atheism illegal

Not true at all, persecuting Christian 'worked' in some places (many areas of Europe/Asia etc). Didn't destroy them completely but did stop their growth.

It very much depends on how much people are rooted in their faith to begin with. Persecution or antireligious propaganda will cause more nominal Christian to fold because lol who cares. Persecution will cause more deeply rooted Christian to dig in.

catholicism is actually dying out in mexico, the problem now is pentecostals

chiapas is only 58% catholic now

>stupid cunts washing feets to each other
>based

I didn't mention Catholic Church at all in that post. They had their big moment of making themselves retarded in the 1950s-80s (arguably up to today and beyond), and will likely not grow anywhere again for a long time outside of small traditional communities (Given history, I do think they will probably get their shit together and recover eventually though not in my lifetime lmao).

I heard somewhere that Pentecostal traditions match more of the Latino spirit in terms of being very extroverted whereas Catholicism is traditionally more introverted.

Nigga what?

How can it be that the witch-hunt is still exists in Mexico?

wat

secularize the state, make temples pay taxes and invest in poor zones

youtu.be/eoVZWgWjVRo

Mexican govt is already extremely secular and even tried to violently destroy religion before.

"Invest in poor zones" is a common belief but doesn't actually work, ie Gulf States are very rich but still religious. The fact that they seemed to go along in Europe is only part of the story.

make reddit the frontpage on every mexicans browser

lol the gulf states are just technically religious, how the fuck can you look at cities like dubai and bahrain and think they're some religious mecca?

also, the gulf states are rich because of oil, it's not like they actually created the richness by themselves

>lol the gulf states are just technically religious, how the fuck can you look at cities like dubai and bahrain and think they're some religious mecca?
"No TRUE rich person!"

>also, the gulf states are rich because of oil, it's not like they actually created the richness by themselves
And Europe is just rich thanks to imperialism. Wtf does "create the richness themselves" means? Extracting a natural resource and selling it is about as close as "create the richness yourself" gets. Its not like oil is a one way ticket into wealth either, look at Venezuela. You have to be able to extract it and sell it and invest the profit.

That seems to be the case since most of Mexico’s pentacostal churches seem to be filled with the lower class people
youtu.be/D-cDBylLJVA

Mexico has to be the most secular country in the world.

Feet washing pentecostal practice, the fag-tier ritual.

Or with people like these
youtu.be/07cmMhQxjfg

>mfw people are still trying to root out religion out of mexico
>to no success

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Pentecostals are poor everywhere its a poor man's religion

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Why do they do that? I’ve been to Evangelical churches and they were pretty lively compared to Catholic churches but no one acted like in that vid.

Different cultures and communities. Being able to dance and flail around like crazy is a release for them, but for other people it'd just make them go leave and find a new church

>Making México less religious
>mfw
Give it a try.

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>Not really, gulf states are rich and they are religious.
>He believes this

5% of Saudi youth are atheists. I have met so many gulf atheists onpine, it isn't even a joke.

Unironically is probablly the country with the most secular goverment in the Americas probablly tied with Canada, but the population isnt, i dont know of any country with that kind of disonance, super religious people that are Also super into church and state separation and a goverment that outright hanged priests from telgraph poles

mátate

Because they misinterpret the book of Acts where the Holy Spirit descends and has the Apostles "speak in tongues" (preach in foreign languages), as well as a bunch of other passages from the Bible. Their rituals consist of yelling gibberish at each other and shaking around like they're having seizures because apparently that's what the Holy Spirit does.

I live in the most conservative state in Mexico and I think we're not that religious. I'm gay and atheist and I live fine here.

>mfw time and time again religion in this country has survived everything

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>5% of Saudi youth are atheists.
And that makes Saudi Arabia less religious how? Does "5% of youth are atheist" sound not religious do you? Do you think religious countries have 100% youth religious? Reallly??

I don't think there's been a single society on earth where 100% of youth are religious.

Guanajuato?

Yes

Why do you constantly make threads complainig about it, then

Have you ever heard about MBS' social and economic reformations?

I wouldn't say Mexicans are super religious.

is it true that san miguel de allende is full of ytoids?

he probably has a personal stake in believing the gulf states are some religious paradise

we aren't that religious

Cool state overall, 9/10 because only Jalisco can be 10/10

What type of atheists are they? Hardcore fedora types?

why are so obsessed with islam?

Not muslim country leve religious, but yeah México is religious even more so than several other countries in latín América and not even comparable with western developed nations, theres no shame in admitting it

I'm not obsessed, just interested.

why?

mexico is the least religious latinx country outside of the southern cone
and the number of people attending church is just barely above america's

just because our culture is very influenced by christianity doesn't mean we are religious

We're not religious m8.

idk, I just find that part of the world to be interesting.

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A bit, this does not make Saudi Arabia irreligious though, not by a long shot. Mexico has already allowed women to drive for a very very long time lol.

lol he doesn't even mention Islam wtf, just asked what type of atheists they were.

>all these faggots denying the truth, mexico being religious.

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Mexico is literally religious.

You don't need to attend church to be religious, traditionally speaking most people didn't attend church.

it must be so sad for you to see the only developed muslim countries turned into just westernized run of the mill countries :((((((((

kek

>Mexico is literally religious.
it's as religious as the us
>traditionally speaking most people didn't attend church.
yes, they did

>it must be so sad for you to see the only developed muslim countries turned into just westernized run of the mill countries :((((((((

I don't know what you are on about, but Saudi Arabia is not a "westernized run of the mill country" when they allow women to drive. Are you kidding?

>You don't need to attend church to be religious
wew

My only complain is that I'm the only gay where I live

cum to guadalajar :)

>it's as religious as the us
So its religious

>yes, they did
No they didn't. mid-19th century church attendance was lower than it is now, for example, with only 1/3 going to church, and in the 18th century it was 1/5

ethicsdaily.com/church-attendance-wasnt-always-robust-in-past-cms-20169/

Medieval times were even lower, with people MAYBE making it 1x a year. You are probably conflating all of history with the 1950s which had uniquely high religious attendance and which quickly disappeared when the church went full retard.

>Mexico
>religious
You have always been a socialist shithole

I’ve always wondered how conservative countries like those in the Gulf are completely fine with building cities like Dubai or Doha which are like some kind of Las Vegas in the Middle East

>socialist

Wut?

Yes, many Americans and Canadians

I'm moving to Mexico City soon to study my Masters degree

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Church attendance wasn't required at all til 1215 and even then it was required 1x a year. USA is coming off a massive religious attendance high from the 1950s, but 19th century it was 1/3, 18th century it was 1/5. Lots of religious people just practice folk religion/devotion at home. You don't need to go to a special building to be "religious" and never have, you know that right? Right?

I don't think Islam even has an ascetic tradition the way Christianity/Buddhism does. I guess the Sufis do.

>So its religious
compared to europe, i guess. most of the population isn't, just like in the us.

now listen, we live in the modern world where church attendance is a mark of religious identity and belonging, okay? we don't live in the middle ages where everyone's christian by default. got it?

also, excuse me if i don't take some article from a christian website trying to mask its decline of power as authoritative.

cope

>You don't need to attend church to be religious
Is this why most of the white population claim to be Christian when they’re don’t even own a Bible?

>compared to europe, i guess. most of the population isn't, just like in the us.
Most Americans are religious. Hell, 20% of our atheists literally believe in God and most unaffiliated people are into magic crystal divination and karma and shit.

>we live in the modern world where church attendance is a mark of religious identity and belonging, okay?
lol no. Most Christians I know don't attend church. That's a mark of 1950s Christianity more than 2010s Christianity. Different eras have different modes of religious expression or devotion/practice. You are defining religiosity very narrowly if it comes down to "go to church".

>also, excuse me if i don't take some article from a christian website trying to mask its decline of power as authoritative.
Look it up yourself, I just pulled the first link off google. Church attendance wasn't even "a thing" for Christians til 1215, even then it was only 1x a year. Go look up historical (pre 20th century) church attendance rates yourself.

Probably, the whole Bible-worship thing that Prots did was extremely alien to Christianity as a whole and how religion in general (and Christianity in specific) generally works.

you're a very special kind of cookie, aren't you?

I think I'm just educated and I think you're just a retard.

>Religion may be defined as a cultural system of designated behaviors and practices, worldviews, texts, sanctified places, prophecies, ethics, or organizations, that relates humanity to supernatural, transcendental, or spiritual elements
>Different religions may or may not contain various elements ranging from the divine[3], sacred things[4], faith[5], a supernatural being or supernatural beings[6] or "some sort of ultimacy and transcendence that will provide norms and power for the rest of life".[7] Religious practices may include rituals, sermons, commemoration or veneration (of deities), sacrifices, festivals, feasts, trances, initiations, funerary services, matrimonial services, meditation, prayer, music, art, dance, public service, or other aspects of human culture. Religions have sacred histories and narratives, which may be preserved in sacred scriptures, and symbols and holy places, that aim mostly to give a meaning to life. Religions may contain symbolic stories, which are sometimes said by followers to be true, that have the side purpose of explaining the origin of life, the universe, and other things.

This is religion, note how its a larger general umbrella term for all matter of different practices that attempt to relate humanity to the proverbial divine and not limited to "Religion is when you go to church and the more often you go to the church the more religious you are"

i am a radical atheist and 20 million of my neighbours pretty much are