science, conscience
fiance, defiance
character, charade, charity
designation, designability
Aah! These things are pronounced completely differently!
science, conscience
fiance, defiance
character, charade, charity
designation, designability
Aah! These things are pronounced completely differently!
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Woah, I didn't know English was so DIFFICULT!!!!
English is one of the harder languages because it has a ton of loanwords from French, Old Norse, German, and in the US, Native/Spanish.
t. monolingual
The only hard part is the spelling being all over the place.
I have another problem. I know how to spell words that I know, but listening is difficult for me because sometimes I don't know a correct pronunciation of a word.
>English is one of the harder languages
I'm done
>this is what anglo monolinguals actually believe
falo ingles e portugues
my family members who speak even more languages (mostly French) say the same thing because it has like 90 different sets of rules it uses depending on the source of the word
English is highly cultured and developed, people are retarded and only treat grammatical complexity as a measurement of a language's worth and call English shit or "dumb" just for that. Under that criteria fucking Swahili is superior to most Indo-Euro languages.
Stop baiting, English is fucking easy. That's why it became an international language.
I know how ough and igh are actually pronounced and im not gonna tell you how to pronounce them
>any language being superior to another
With what criteria would someone claim this?
Are other languages even harder? It was a nice dream to become a polyglot.
> grammatical complexity
Actually, grammar is fine. It's not difficult.
what bothers me the most is:
To / two
three / tree
eyes / ice
i never understood how to pronounce these correct
>eyes / ice
The first ends in a "z" sound, the other in an "s" one.
>To / two
I think they sound the same althought "to" sounds more compressed compared to "two".
>three / tree
Ah this one is easy m8, the first one is a good ol' "θ" sound.
>Are other languages even harder?
Usually yes. If you really wanna challenge yourself, try learning a Finno-Ugric language.
To/two are mostly homophones. "To" when said quickly or more casually comes out like /tə/, a bit shorter.
Three/tree, the difference is just the ð in three.
Eyes/ice, if you pronounce "ice" with a longer stress on the "i" and a softer "ce" it should be roughly the same as eyes.
> That's why it became an international language
I thought English is so wide-spread because of colonization and other historical things not because of its characteristics.
You are correct.
Well yeah, english is a peasant mutt language. Do you think they care about words?
Its simplicity was probably an advantage over other languages, e.g. French.
Please tell me!
Well, I know it. Cough, though. These things also are pronounced differently in different words.
>it has like 90 different sets of rules it uses depending on the source of the word
>rules
>implying
It's an arbitrary mess because they started to standardise the spelling during some vowel changes and never bothered to correct it.
But please do give the rule why for example wednesday is pronounced as wensday.
All languages aside from constructed languages like Esperanto are arbitrary.
>English is one of the harder languages
Lmao
Synthetic lingua franca made by AI when?
I was talking about pronunciation rules which shouldn't be arbitrary. You're either baiting or retarded.
Ffs i even had to check the spelling of "pronunciation".
Hopefully never.
my biggest fuck up with english was pronouncing shield as child on teamspeak while playing world of warcraft and nobody could understand what the fuck am I talking about
Why? It would be more logical, better and easier than other languages.
We wouldn't have to be slaves to english language and way of thinking.
>I was talking about pronunciation rules which shouldn't be arbitrary.
Are there no accents in Belgium, since it's a non-country?
Are you going to dye today?
me: ( A..Am I done..?)
After you heard them once or twice you should know them.
Have one last (You).
English is an extremely simplistic language.
The only "issue" is the retarded pronunciation "rules"
But you eventually learn how to pronounce the words so they're a non-issue.
Vocab, grammar, etc is laughably easy.
I suppose they should adopt some of Cyrillic letters.
шeld
чild
karakter
шarad
чarety
conшens
dezegnaшen, dezeinabelety
The words became more understandable now.
>Why? It would be more logical, better and easier than other languages.
Sounds gay
>We wouldn't have to be slaves to english language and way of thinking.
Well, just wait for the next lingua franca to take its place, it may be Finnish for all we know.
Also even if you pronounce things wrong most people will be about to understand you. For example if you say AY-PUHL instead of AH-PUHL you will sound incorrect but everyone still knows what you meant.
the problem is more that it doesn't adapt loanwords to its spelling system
This is to be expected with all those funky accents.
I can see no problems in these. If some language doesn't have things like these:
>character, charade
it's probably a newly constructed meme fake language.
Do you have such examples in Russian?
>English is one of the harder languages
We have that Latin Root without actually being Latin Root.
ough used to be pronounced with a back rounded vowel and a voiceless velar fricative and igh was a voiceless palatal fricative
You have to learn the pronunciation for EACH word. It’s like learning kanji for speaking.
> You have to learn the pronunciation for EACH word.
Exactly. I like this comparison with kanji even though I don't speak Japanese.
English is the second language for my entire family and they all say the same thing, despite most of them knowing 3+ languages.
As Americans we are always taught in school that English is a very very hard language to learn so dont be racist against Mexicans who cannot speak it yet.
Then you go on Jow Forums and everyone is like "lol English is easy pie retard whats wrong with you".
I dont know what to believe.,
Isn't zucchini and some other stuff from italian as well?
the first two are basically the same, some might say two is sounded out a fraction of a second longer
for the others:
vocaroo.com
Yup. It's even more complicated in the US, especially New England because of the mix of English and Native names, descriptions, etc.
>Berlin = BAR-lin
>Worcester = wuss-tur (or wuss-tuh)
>Quahog = ko-hog
>Aquidneck = Uh-kwid-nick
>Quincy = Quinzy
>Scituate = Sit-chew-it
>Billerica = Bill-rick-uh
>Portsmouth = Port-smith
>Haverhill = Hay-vrill
etc
>To/two
Same. With my accent to can become ta though.
>Three/tree
Only different is the th vs t but they both rhyme with bee.
>eyes/ice
ize, ise (e isn't pronounced just makes the i sound long like is "I")
>ы
thats just pronunciation though, and it's different everywhere
Read the thread. Or even just the OP
We just have as many shibboleths as we can to identify outsiders. We don't want any.
A rough-coated, dough-faced, thoughtful ploughman strode through the streets of Scarborough; after falling into a slough, he coughed and hiccoughed.
If English was easy then everybody could speak English already. I get the highest marks all the time at a university and I can't speak English. Most of my groupmates can't even read properly even though they learn it at least for eight years (at least 5 years in a school and the 4th year in the university). Well, I think they may be not interested in it for some reason, it is not that difficult to read.
the only real problem with english is the retarded phonetics and pronunciation, and you probably have no idea what im talking about because you're a native