Why do people hate Bitcoin Cash? >Fastest transactions (instant) >Very Low fees >Smart Contracts >Working scaling solution proved by scientific and technological studies >Supported by Gavin Andreson (based lad) >It literally works RIGHT NOW. >Very easy to use >Widely Recognised by pretty much all crypto institutions, and a CNBC favourite (which is important to normies)
Jow Forumsbitcoin and bitcointalk.com (controlled by the same guy) have a massive censorship and shilling campaign against it, but desu thats probably a reason to like it more.
>But I dont like muh roger ver Greg maxwell is a fat neckbeard and the rest of the blockstream team are part of the "magical crypto friends". Theyre a bunch of queers
It's not the coin, it's the cultists. Any coin would be hated if their public representation was a bunch of screeching lunatics screaming "THIS COPY THAT CAME AFTER IS THE ORIGINAL! BECAUSE I SAY SO! REEEEEEEE"
They could have just gone for a much more realistic "This one is best used for transactions, this is the speculation coin" approach, but no, they had to ruin everything with a polarizing gospel that no one outside of their brainwashed cult would dare to associate with.
Blake Reed
They mostly don't. The people who do are; 1) paid to. 2) unwilling to acknowledge their decision to sell at 300 was because they fell victim to a scam themselves. It is much easier for them to believe that they avoided a scam and are very clever having done so. Protects the self image. 3) evaluating on character and political propaganda. There have been tons of character assassinations from btc to bch but little in the opposite direction. If you're the kind of person who picks a side based on personalities then your choice is obvious. 4) just mindlessly following the herd without noticing higher price is objectively less valuable than 10x superior market performance.
Its the best coin on the market but its not the top of the market so how can it possibly be overrated?
If you make your decisions based on a few autists on twitter then you're never going to make it
Justin Kelly
See, what you kids don't understand these days is, the secret to success is not stabbing your Superior in the back so you can steal his position by making him look bad and getting him fired. It's about getting behind your higher ups and helping to propel them forward by making them look good. As they succeed you succeed.
You mention normies... what do you think normies will think when/if btc dies? I think normie money will exit crypto never to return if the most popular coin dies. The crypto space is probably filled with fiance geeks and computer science nerds. The vast majority of normies can't understand what bitcoin is, much less what the drama between the two btc and bch is all about. do you honestly think bitcoin dying will be healthy for this emerging market? if you do you are delusional and you need to spend some time outside of this echo chamber called Jow Forums.
BTC isn't superior, it's a sabotaged product designed to destroy the decentralised aspects of the system and bring it back under banking control. If the choice is that or we burn it all to the ground, we burn it all to the ground. The original vision will not be stopped, and certainly not because of some quaint boomer analogy about not having paid one's dues that actually applies far better in reverse, as it's Maxwell's vision which is the upstart, not Satoshi's.
You have to be so insanely retarded to accept this line of “logic.” If CocaCola changed to nerve gas, it would mean CocaCola is now nerve gas. If Pepsi came out with something that tastes like the original recipe of SatoshiCola THEN IT WOULD STILL BE PEPSI AND WOULD NEVER BE COCA-COLA BC THE LATTER IS NOW NERVE GAS. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU EPIC RETARDS? DO YOU NOT REALIZE HOW INSANELY STUPID AND DELUSIONAL YOU SOUND?
Jaxon Jenkins
You mean something new that the guy that mined it to begin with insists on calling bitcoin cash? The point of that joke isn't that the name matters and bitcoin cash should get it, it's that the product is what actually matters. Nerve gas is nerve gas, central bank money is central bank money, cola is cola, and peer to peer electronic cash is peer to peer electronic cash. And what you call any of those things is irrelevant to those facts.
>Why do people hate Bitcoin Cash? I hate the cancerous commuinity behind this altcoin. Also I have concerns that not limiting the block size on layer 0 will lead to problems if the coin actually is used to pay stuff. The blockchain size would grow too fast, this leads to high centralisation (desu. who sacrifies terabytes of data for a single wallet in 5 years?). If bcash would support dapps those problems will be here even faster. And you have no solution but increasing storage, since you want to sign every single transaction yourself. Bitcoin suns on Lightning now, of course there's not a signature for every single transaction (do you really need that?), until I send it on layer 0 which is still possible. Think about it, compressing transactions is the only way of making a decentralised payment system functional AND decentralized. To lightning: Many large hubs with a lot of centralized hubs make a decentralized system.
>Jow Forumsbitcoin and bitcointalk.com have a massive censorship and shilling campaign You mean they delete "muuh Bitcoin Cash is the real bitcoin" shitposting? I'm not impressed.
>Greg maxwell is a fat neckbeard every developer is beautiful kek
Gavin Butler
THEN WHY CALL IT BITCOIN CASH???! Jesus, you people don’t have any concept of how stupid you sound. It’s really quite amazing.
Jaxson Morris
Exhibit A for just how hard people will cling to the decentralisation meme in the face of overwhelming evidence exactly what they say is necessary for the maintenance of it is actually what is destroying it. I think most people are actually incapable of admitting they were wrong. Especially if they were wrong because they were tricked. I remember quite well the three day period where I finally decided this block size debate had gone on for long enough and the big blockers claims had to be summarily properly demolished in order for the space to move forward. It was ego destroying to slowly realize I had been tricked, and actually it was I who was utterly wrong. Most people don't seem to be able to cope with that and instead result to whatever rationalizations are necessary to maintain their narrative, case in point.
Because that's what it is? You don't seem to realise how unhinged you sound.
Benjamin Rogers
>selecting 2 large hubs to colourful highlight them between many other large hubs. Why don't you just share the link to the live visualizer? lnmainnet.gaben.win
everyone wants to be a better bitcoin. only bcash is trying to steal the name.
Carter Stewart
The point of the image is to demonstrate the simple fact that a routed staked network will necessarily be hub and spoke oriented in order to route payments, because there is no solution to the routing problem without this. Your image shows it as well. The hubs are extremely visible abs exactly what the BCH camp has been saying would be the inevitable result all along, and that actually it was the intention all along. They were and are right. It is not an accident. It is the design.
Plenty of people unironically believe it actually is bitcoin, and thus they call it that. In the meantime the guy who mined it insists on calling it bitcoin cash, and it's the emotionally wrought core supporters desperate to save themselves that insist on calling it bcash to deny the fact of its heritage. Do you ever see bgold or bprivate or bdiamomd or bdark? No, because those aren't a threat to bcore, while bitcoin cash can and very likely will destroy it.
>everyone wants to be a better bitcoin. This is what gets me the most about the altcoin market. You need some project behind your coin, something that sets it apart. BCH has nothing. You know a coin that's faster, has better scalability, lower rates, higher potential usage, and isn't bogged down by an ongoing dick measuring contest every time they want to make a change?
Digibytes. The butt of every joke of this board is unironically a better altcoin then BCH on every single measurable metric you could choose.
Cooper Robinson
Those who think that simply don't understand
Jayden Nelson
DGB is a multi-algo (SHA-256 amongst them) PoW chain. It's also laughable that everyone is sucking SHA-256 when it's not even ASIC-resistant, and thus is not any more secure than any shitcoin, just easier for chinks to take ownership of.
Nolan Phillips
The necessary investment to attack dgb is orders of magnitude lower than even litecoin, letalone a post core death bitcoin cash.
Jeremiah Richardson
And there is no such thing as asic resistant proof of work, anymore than there is atheist resistant religions.
Mason Fisher
ASIC resistance is a meme. Do you really think it's possible to create an algorithm that can resist the advances of technology?
Brody Evans
By your own logic, then, all this circlejerking about SHA256 being the end-all proof of the chain's security is all bullshit?
I would make one thing clear here, I'm not against BCH any more than I am for BTC. I'm just tired as shit to see only pure retardation on both sides when it comes to finding reasons why one is supposedly better, and those painfully wrong images detailing fantasy scenarios being spammed in every thread don't help either.
You might as well make an infographic saying "Someone might guess Satoshi's private key and steal all the genesis coins! In that case, BCH would be the only bitcoin worth something!"
Brandon Allen
Our logic is that SHA256 is the most widely deployed proof of work algorithm, and you think pointing out there's no asic resistant proof of work algorithm somehow invalidates that? That doesn't make any sense. The infographics people are throwing around are in wide circulation now, and the math simply validates them. There is no refutation or even an attempt at a refutation. They're just facts.
Kayden Parker
I would say the reason people find Bitcoin Cash distasteful is the constant coup. For instance holding Bitcoin.com etc. The list goes on.
By consistently calling Bitcoin "Bitcoin Core" you are part of the problem. If you believe in the tech, there should be no reason to not stand proudly by Bitcoin Cash and the tech behind it. Including the name.
It's a little ironic that there is so much slander and finger pointing when a lot of that tribalism comes from the camp you're sitting in.
Jordan Stewart
>They're just facts. >Facts >"In this absurdist scenario of BTC capitulation, BCH might weasel through on stealing the name!"
Yeah, great "facts" BCH could have been an actually respectable project, if only it hadn't chosen to live with this constant Napoleon Complex towards bitcoin.
John Roberts
Continuing:
It's amusing to me that the people who support Bitcoin Cash always victim blame and say there is a FUD campaign against them by the "core cucks."
Not everything is a shill campaign against you, there is no grand conspiracy. It's shoveled to you. Does the FUD happen? Sure. It happens with every coin. But not everybody who happens to disagree with you is a paid shill out to slander your name.
A 7 percent divergence in the price of the BCHBTC pair in favor of BCH for 7 consecutive days is not "absurd", especially in light of the fact BCH has 10x'd BTC since fork. And once again, the name isn't what matters.
Gabriel Gonzalez
I suppose there's no point debating if you aren't willing to look at the other side of the coin.
If you're solely interested in the tech and not trying to execute a coup in order to secure the name "Bitcoin" why don't you look at a project like Stellar? It's currently the best scalable solution and has everything BCash does and then some.
Justin Turner
>And once again, the name isn't what matters. Which is why BCH keeps stealing all urls, media accounts and everything it can get its grubby paws on to fool people into thinking it's the Bitcoin 99% of people think of when looking up the name?
Liam Morris
I'm interested in the tech and the vision, the one embedded in the original chain prior to core sabotage that continues in bitcoin cash. I did look at it from the other side, but the simple fact is unilaterally forcibly changing the architecture of the project in order to specifically hand control of it to the very parties it was designed to destroy is exactly what core actually did, and exactly the narrative you accused cash of, and that is why you are flatly wrong. I understand your perspective completely. I used to hold it before I understood the above properly, but it's just a fact.
William Morris
Because all of the people in control of those assets actually happen to believe what they're saying. It's still the actual properties of the system that are the most important thing. In fact those properties are why those people think it is actually bitcoin, because they are the properties of the original Bitcoin, and core doesn't have them.
Aaron Lopez
So why not look at Stellar?
Again, the post above rings very true.
"Which is why BCH keeps stealing all urls, media accounts and everything it can get its grubby paws on to fool people into thinking it's the Bitcoin 99% of people think of when looking up the name?"
Do you have any input on that? Regardless of how you perceive "Bitcoin Core" do you not see how the BCash crowd could be seen in a negative light because of that which is ultimately hurting the brand?
I would appreciate it if you could answer that question directly and not evade the question by finger pointing at the core cucks.
Thanks.
Luke Green
>fees im laffin
Angel Murphy
Because stellar is just a clone of ripple, not designed to destroy states and central banks. That vision is what bitcoin was designed to do and only bitcoin cash has the necessary architecture to continue with that strategy. I am also diversified into a few other assets which compliment that vision. But as I see it BCH is the primary thrust. It has been the plan from the genesis block and it continues now. It has been very resilient even under concerted assault from well financed interests to sabotage that vision, and at the end of the day if one must choose one is the central thing one must keep in mind.
Oliver Richardson
>bitmain organises ""user activated"" hard fork to increase block size to 8 MB >nobody cares >they fork anyway and also change the difficulty algo so it doesn't die out >they exploit their hacky new algo for PnDs >still no one cares, blocks are less than 100 KB in size >they fork again and make the limit 16 MB >still no one cares and blocks smaller than 100 KB >they fork again to a 32 MB limit >blocks still below 100 KB in size
Fucking pathetic. They keep increasing the block size to pander to the narrative and fake interest but practically no one but their shill squad cares or uses their centralized shit coin.
Bitcoin has actual professionals and cryptographers researching and developing real innovations (segwit, schnorr signatures, mast, bullet proofs). BCH is a bunch of script kiddies and salesmen playing around and copying shit, on bitmain's payroll of course.
You've actually just clearly shown your innate tribalism with this response.
There is clearly nothing more to discuss, you have already made up your mind.
Good luck with your future endeavors. I'm not sure how far confirmation bias will get you in this market, though.
Jordan Watson
If my tribe us "the tribe that wants to destroy states and central banks and views poorly the idea of handing control of the blockchain back to them" then yes, we agree. I will do whatever it takes to see that vision fulfilled, unless I am convinced that there is a better one.
Levi Phillips
You might want to do some more research into Stellar in that case, because you don't sound very educated.
"It's just a clone" - you realize they started the "send money like email" phrase, yeah? I'm betting not.
Not only that, but it's provably the best scalable blockchain currently.
I advise you to look deeply into Stellar Consensus Protocol. I run a research group aimed to be as completely unbiased as possible.
I've done more research into shitcoins than probably 99.95% of people on biz. I encourage you to get out of your bubble and look into real applications if you're looking at tech, not securing the name Bitcoin.
Joshua Lewis
I have no problem with stellar beyond the association with ripple which I think is just a bankers coin and thus I am wholly uninterested in. Technically speaking I believe the best experimental payments chain right now to be nano, but I would not be confident to rely on it as I am with bch as I think despite the promise if it can execute on its plans, it's a long way to go before we can be certain that is actually realistic. I will take another look at stellar. But as I said. To me all these instruments are simply weapons. Whichever can most effectively end states and central banks are the ones I'm interested in.
Robert Bell
because it's one small step away from being an actual bank. an actual bank is controlled by one organization. bch is only controlled be 3 or so pools due to the large block size. so it's only about 3 times better than a bank.
Dominic Hernandez
>"Someone might guess Satoshi's private key and steal all the genesis coins! In that case, BCH would be the only bitcoin worth something!" strange example you give. if someone guessed satoshis private key they'd inflict just as much damage to BCH, since the same keys work there too (and have the same amounts), because BCH is bitcoin
Charles Garcia
The exact same set of people mine BTC and BCH.
Liam Gomez
Totally not ironic how Roger "Bitcoin Jesus" Ver is now one of the most hated in Crypto for preserving the Bitcoin Whitepaper
digital currency group also invests in a lot of crypto ... like Coinbase, Kraken, Ripple, ZCash, Coindesk, shapeshift, bitpay, Chain (not chainlink), Circle, Etherscan, Ledger (like the nano), and many other crypto startups... Just exactly like the Bitcoin Judas himself. Bitcoin Cash would have everyone believe that the entirety of crypto has been sabotaged like those flat earthers believe all the conspiracy theories.
you do know that bch follows btc... that bull flag is actually bitcoin's bull flag kiddo.
Alexander Martin
because it's spiting crypto as a whole just so one millionare can try to push his coin.
It's purposefully confusing people who are trying to enter crypto and Ver basically spends every chance he can to slander LN when LN is one of the few things that could start the next bull cycle. And for all of that effort it's not really ever going to achieve its goal of flippening.
If you're myopic it looks nice and you might believe the Core hate but what's going on is BCH is one of the scummy things that's holding all of crypto back. It's also been observed that BCH adding to Coinbase was the trigger that started the massive downtrend from 15k or whatever it was at the time. Now people don't trust Coinbase after that debacle.
Xavier Brooks
reply to me if you are all in on BCH
pajeets with $200 total portfolio need not apply
Andrew Anderson
this is the cult shit he was talking about
Ethan Taylor
You gotta be an extra type of autistic, out-of-touch asberger retard to think someone as passionate as Roger is evangelizing Bitcoin for dishonest gain. Rethink your whole life.
B/c it stole Bitcoin's branding by calling itself Bitcoin when it's not Bitcoin b/c the genesis block was mined before the fork. Roger Ver, CW, and Jihan are doing everything they can to slow down BTC.
The scaling debates boils down to TX on chain, or off chain. On chain would mean larger blocks, larger blocks = inefficient b/c the network is mining a bunch of empty blocks. Where as smaller blocks means the network is more efficient b/c every block that is being mined is not empty. Increasing block size also decreases decentralization b/c of syncing issues, so they will claim 0 confirmation TX's are the way to go but it is not.
Off chain scaling with Lightening network allows for BTC to scale infinitely. B/c 2nd layer solutions like lightening can do the TX work required off chain, while using the chain to secure the TX's. Layer 2 is the way to go b/c decentralization requires small blocks.
Roger has tried to fork BTC before, remember BTC Unlimited? That failed b/c the network did not agree. So what he did was working with the Chinks to secure hashing power to fork BTC into BCash. If you recall after the BTC fork Bcash was created BTC went to 18k, and Bcash went to less than 300's.
No scaling with sharding. No move to PoS since that'd fuck Bitmain. No dev ecosystem or handy stuff equivalent to metamask for Dapps. Endless transparent shilling and washtrading that discredit the whole ecosystem.
BTC, BCH, all other BTC shit forks, the whole lot need to die.
Nathan Powell
People are just very misinformed about Bitcoin Cash.
It would honestly have been strange if things didn't pan out this way but more and more will switch over to BCH because more and more of the people that sway the larger crowds will start doing their own research instead of just repeating what they are told by other influential people.
Make no mistake, BCH *will* take over. BTC has nothing going on for it except it has the old ticker symbol. If you who are reading this regret not buying bitcoins when they were new this is your second chance. Don't miss it!
Also as to WHY people are misinformed about Bitcoin Cash, if you look at the view count on YouTube videos about BCH they will have something like 1k views while videos about BTC might have 100k views and if the guy in that video is misinformed about Bitcoin Cash it carries over to all of his viewers because clearly they aren't watching Bitcoin Cash videos themselves.
>The scaling debates boils down to TX on chain, or off chain. On chain would mean larger blocks, larger blocks = inefficient b/c the network is mining a bunch of empty blocks. Where as smaller blocks means the network is more efficient b/c every block that is being mined is not empty. Increasing block size also decreases decentralization b/c of syncing issues, so they will claim 0 confirmation TX's are the way to go but it is not. absolute nonsense, first of all if only 1 MB of transactions are created every 10 min the blocks would still be just 1 MB. second, if blocks were 32 MB you'd only need 450kbps to download it in 10 minutes. that speed will be extremely common all around the world in, what, 20 years when some few blocks finally reaches around 30 MB.
I don't think people realise how little BCH is actually available for trade. A lot of it is locked up by massive whales
Brody Jones
calling me names doesn't make you appear smarter. Roger Ver is a business man... he will "evangelize" anything that makes him money.
James Gutierrez
Lol projecting much? You sound new to crypto and probably haven’t given much thought to why Satoshi’s Bitcoin/Blockchain prevailed. Keep hodling that BTC breh
Parker Richardson
The trust issues flow both ways, there is no way core or blockstream will ever regain the trust of the people who split off and went into cash. Secession was the only option, and now conflict is inevitable given that we both bid on the same oxygen supply, and our bids can actually kill BTC. That means they can't afford to leave us alone, and we don't want to leave them alone because of what they did.
If you got sent to prison on trumped up charges because of a state you viewed as illegitimate and the grudges of jackbooted thugs and a corrupt legal system *AND* you could get rich off evangelizing something you know can destroy it, would you think "No, what I really want to do is just help the state that fucked with me and scam everyone who might potentially want to help the goal of destroying them." Because if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.
dude, that faggot went to jail becasue he pissed off the wrong people. He admits it. He's the only fuckstick to get caught and charged with those explosives, several places online still sold the same explosives online long after Ver was getting penetrated behind bars. He dug his own grave. I have no sympathy for that loud mouthed scam artist of a cum bubble. you are barking up the wrong tree here step-son.
Jaxson Perry
Why did you get the impression I was trying to convince you to join the right side? You've made it abundantly clear already that all you care about is being on the side of the majority and facts don't matter, I was simply making it clear that actually no, there's no reasonable narrative where Roger is trying to scam the Bitcoin Cash users, he honestly and earnestly believes he's doing the right thing. And he is. You're just trying to pick the winning team in what you perceive to be a machiavellian political dispute. We're trying to destroy the entire concept of machiavellian political disputes as a meaningful thing.
Elijah Baker
I bet you have never actually run the bitcoin core node yourself. That shit consumed over 300GB/month data of my upload bandwidth when I was connected to 50+ nodes. Have fun with your bandwidth with 32MB full blocks.
Carter Garcia
> doesn't know what the blocksonly flag does
Brayden Watson
Well I can afford to keep the flag=0 with 1MB blocks so no problem.
Blake Davis
> wow it uses so much bandwidth > but I want it to. well then...
Caleb Sanders
Have fun with your bandwidth with 32MB full blocks.
Parker James
You should read my first post here . This is why I am sticking to the original bitcoin. I am not incorrect to think that you are trying to influence my thought processes by shouting from the rooftops that bitcoin has been infiltrated, imagine I was a degenerate felon, or what ever other large words you can find >machiavellian the truth is Roger was relevant to bitcoin in the early days when he was the "bitcoin jesus". Blockstream took that away from him. Now he's the guy who is trying to save Satoshi's Vision. Greg Maxwell has been quoted saying that the only reason why he started Blockstream was for the funding needed at the core development level. Why didn't the "bitcoin jesus" invest in the core development? because there is no ROI in open source code? If all the faggots who are whining and crying about Blockstream were there financially when the core devs needed them... maybe Blockstream wouldn't have even existed.
Julian Stewart
Why bothering by a banker's coin when Bean Cash is already there?
Bitcoin has been infiltrated, that is simply a fact. As for your first post ,yes, I read it, that is why I can see very clearly that you are a status quo line toeing conformist and what matters to you is what is being screamed loudest at any point in time. You are not a mystery, in fact you are exactly what I expect from a herd of conformists who has no idea what is actually happening
Mason Reyes
Yeah, if I had to travel back in time to 1997 or so, that sub 500kbps throughput might be a problem. But seeing as it's now over twenty years later, it's not.
Evan Campbell
Some ISPs limit the montlhy data and the upstream is max 10 Mbps, typically 2 or 1 Mbps. I'm lucky to have unlimited 100/100 connection. That's for EU, I think the situation is more shitty in US.
Have fun with your bandwidth with 32MB full blocks. Maybe relaying transactions is not so important after all.
Jason King
You enjoy repeating yourself uselessly it seems. You do realise that 500kbps is less than 1mbps? And that almost every OECD country in the world has an average of about 20mbps? Here I have 100mbps and it was default, before I lived in Japan and had 10gbps. You can lie all you want about the state of technology, but that doesn't mean anyone is actually going to believe you.
Adrian Scott
Why is 500kpbs some magical number? Because 32MB/10min has an up bound of 500kpbs? So your node basically sends one 32MB block to one other client once in every ten minutes?
Austin Hill
Because with full 32mb blocks the throughput would be less than that. 426.7kbps to be exact. And all of this ignores the important point that you don't need to run a fully validating node to simply use a cryptocurrency anyway. But even if you did, yes, you could run one on less than 500kbps. Relaying transactions is a problem for miners, as the people who actually put the transactions in the block, and profit by doing so. Any project that relies on altruistic relay nodes is not being economically sensible, even ignoring the fact that with full 32mb blocks it's still trivial to run a full node just fine contrary to blockstream / core propaganda.
William Taylor
core cucks are scared shitless of it and have a paid army to troll it all day on every social media, that should tell you why.
Justin Sullivan
insulting my integrity is what I would expect from a cashie.
Connor Morales
There's nothing insulting to your integrity about pointing out you're a conformist. 99% of people are conformists. That's why they're called conformists, after all. I am most certainly not holding you to any standard that the vast majority of people would not also meet.
Isaiah Cook
So you are saying that for full node it's enough to send _one_ 32MB block to _one_ other client _once_ in every ten minutes and relaying transactions is not important.
Please confirm.
Parker Adams
I'm saying that I've run bwm-ng on a full node in blocksonly mode and verified that the actual consumed bandwidth at 100% block utilisation was exactly equal to block size / block time. I'm also saying that getting transactions into blocks is a problem for miners, not anyone who runs a node for any reason at any time, ever. Miners are paid to put those transactions into blocks, so they will make sure they can get them in order to be included.
Ian Taylor
Who do you know that collects fake Rolexs, fake hold coins, fake, vintage cars, etc
Don't buy knock offs created by a scsmming diuche
Luis Ward
Good for you and bch then. Now start filling those 32MB blocks so we can stress test that system.
Cooper Russell
Or they may just get left behind like buttcoiners. You'd be surprised how fast people's opinions change when prices move.
David Baker
Not really, it's been nine months since the fork and despite 10x performance on BCH vs BTC, this and every other non-censored forum is still packed to the brim with three or four of these discussions which turn out the exact same way every day, BTC has absolutely nothing in support of it, no arguments, no refutations of all the arguments from the other side, basically just emotional sloganeering and tribal virtue signaling, and yet the discussions continue, even while the market has solidly gone in the direction of BCH and all arguments and logic of any kind are on that side. Humans don't give up their irrationality easily, it takes a *lot*.
James Lewis
bitcoin cash itself is great, the wannabe bitcoin attitude is dumb and desperate.
Blake Jones
>Supported by Gavin Andreson You know it's 2018, right? GA was last relevant in 2015 was three years ago before he had that 'dictator' breakdown
Pretty much this. Also I wish Bitcoin Cash was the real Bitcoin because it's better, but as long as Bitcoin exists, Bitcoin will forever be Bitcoin Cash.
Landon Gonzalez
>buying into a pre-mined air-dropped hostile-forked bitcoin clone scam coin, born out of greed, deception, and grossly over exaggerated conspiracy theory claims, makes me a cool non-conformist.
