/ita/ il filo

How we wuz is Italian history in regards to Rome?

How entire history is based in that

*on that

What about medieval times?

Have you ever heard of the Holy Roman Empire?

Yes; but for most of it's existence Italy wasn't involved. Do Italians see Rome as the first Italy like Hitler talked about the HRE as the first Reich?

e se ti cago in bocca?

Huh? Google translate says that's an insult, but I'm just asking a question

google translate is shit t b h

So what did you say?

messere apra la bocca orsù

>Yes; but for most of it's existence Italy wasn't involved
>australian education

Half of Italy was part of it, and the other half was part of the other Roman Empire

WE WUZ KANGZ N SHIET

Italy was nominally involved for most of it's time. From 1000 or so onwards the Germans really had no say in Italy

its

>LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT YOUR HISTORY

Seeing as neither of us were alive at the time I don't see why it's your history. I've studied that period a fair amount so I'd like to see what qualifications you have over me

*sbuffa* sono sveglia *si pettina*

not him but I'm graduated in History with a thesis on the role of the italian peninsula in the early years of the HRE

I have over 3000 hours in EU3, EU4 and CK2. I think I got you beat

I also wrote a biography of Louis le Pieux

>io gioco ai videogiochi

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On a Frank? So what?

>I choose how to spend my time based on societal normes rather than what I want

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well show me the biography YOU wrote

I wrote my dissertation on Machiavelli, Cesare Borgia and the immoral King of the Medieval ages. How about your actually show me the biography you wrote? :)

it's in italian so you wouldn't understand

*si scaccola* buongiorno

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Perchè gli Anglosassoni sono sempre così fastidiosi ed arroganti?

Dev'essere il clima oppure il fatto che nella loro cultura culinaria ci siano tortini con le interiora di capra

I was never arrogant; I was just asking legitimate questions and the terrone got butthurt because a foreigner had more interest and a better understand of his country

Sopravvivere abbastanza da accumulare tutta questa saccenza senza essere steso da un ragno dev'essere un enorme achievement per un aussie

Again. You're being combative for no reason. Why do you feel insulted by me telling the truth?

>muh terroni
*snap*

Where are you from?

Stavo solo cazzeggiando tranquillo non me ne frega un cazzo in realtà

Naples

>I've read macchiaveli once now I'm an expert of Italian history
Congratulations now you are on the same level as the average Italian high schooler

Tutti esperti di storia in austraglia

Zittite il canguro con una risposta sensata voi che non siete ignoranti, altrimenti non la finiamo più

I've read more than just Machiavelli. I've read Guicciardini, Firpo, Parenti and Felice as well. Also most know it alls have only read Il Principe.
Everything south of Florence is Terrone. Also Venice

whatever happens in the geographical area you live in is considered "your" history so yes. Not only rome though, this can be extended to Etruschi, Longobards, Sabini and the fuckton of tribes that the romans conquered and annexed to their population and culture.
What makes you think historians have more than a little grasp of what actually happened given Damnatio Memoriae used to be a thing?

What do Italians learn about outside of Roman era?

>furenti a prima mattina con i forestieri
Ma fatevi na scopata

Beh per esempio al momento sto studiando la civiltà sumerica, l'impero di Akkad e la III dinastia di Ur, che si dice in Australia invece?

E secondo te se mi fosse possibile farlo al momento pensi che sarei qui a cagare il cazzo a un negro d'oltreoceano

We study from the australopitecus to the first gulf war, I dont understand the question.

Imparano la storia spendendo oltre 3 mila ore a giocare videogiochi ebreo-svedesi e se ne vantano, a quanto pare

I never spent a day on medieval history. As for classics we looked at Alexander the Great's conquest of Asia and thats it. Most of history was spent on the history of NZ (which is boring as fuck) and generic European/American history like WW2 and Slavery

dopo il canguro è arrivato il macaco
questo filo ormai è uno zoo

NZ =/= AUS

I mean what periods of Italy do you focus on? Do you study Habsburg–Valois Wars? Or Florence rise to power?

Lmao why is Anglo Eduation so shitty?

Do you study maori history as well?

we study literally everything since it's our history, there is not a particular period we focus on

Because our history is boring as fuck and we don't have that far to go back on anyway
We look at European/Maori relations if that's what you mean. That's the main focus; things like the Treaty of Waitangi. Before that doesn't get mentioned, but like I said it doesn't even go that far back

>Polinesian culture
>boring

Minchia

Da cellulare non si vede la differenza

You're lucky. No country has a more interesting history than Italy does; you're spoiled.

Hai torto user, non lo sai che in austraglia si parla anche tedesco? Sembra che non usi nemmeno il microonde per scaldare l'acqua

>actually studying something

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I honestly thought western history programs were standardized. We start with mesopotamia, egypt, move to greece then rome,

Preroman, roman republic, roman empire, post-roman. Then there is a brief blank period in which germanic tribes dominated northen italy but they werent fond of writing stuff so we know little. Middle age (800ish to 1492) is all about city states, in particular Florence, papal states, reign of naples and most importantly Repubbliche Marinare (venezia on top). After that it basically overlaps with european history

It's extremely cringe when foreigners get into North vs South banter

Is Italian irredentism poplar? I've heard before that there is still a big rivalry between the different states

yes, I hate everyone but lombards (the true ones, not terroni parasites)

hanno trovato un culo su marte

>lombards
They are extinct nowadays

Ah sì, la famoza bianura badana...

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Why did Italians change so many names? Mediolanum is a much cooler sounding name than just Milan

parla per te ciro mazzucchelli
lmao ecco il salentino invidioso

No no sono ancora più a sud fai conto quasi Africa e comunque non è invidia prendersi gioco dei padanfag

We should have formed a Confederation like the swiss or the germans, but apparenly getting rid of the Spanish/french domination in the peninsula was considered most urgent shit to do. Italy became one with the piedmont reign and here we are.

Sei furente ragazzo padano? Noi terroni abbiamo impregnato ogni singola donna padana, ormai trovare un lombardo puro è praticamente impossibile

chino chan

Ok cazzo giallo con questa cosa ti sei appena guadagnato una italica mulier

venite pure a impregnare, però poi nascono padani. Parla al telefono con balotelli e vediamo se sembra più un bingobango o un chad carpentiere bresciano

>but apparenly getting rid of the Spanish/french domination in the peninsula was considered most urgent shit to do.
Wasn't it?

Northern Italians do like getting cucked

>Balotelli è padano
AHAHAHHAHAHAAHAH
L'ASSOLUTO STATO DEI """PADANI""" (Arabo-Afro-Siculo-Napoletani)

io sarei rimasto volentieri sotto spagna, francia o austria piuttosto che diventare shitaliano

>parlare in inglese sul filo
L'assoluto stato di /ita/

Che vi avevo detto

chi ha invitato l'angloporco?

itagliano troppo difficile per gli austriaci padani

Anche io, sopratutto perché se fosse rimasto il Regno delle Due Sicilie adesso ricchissimo

*adesso sarei ricchissimo

>Implicando che la mafia non ci renda già ricchissimi

Picciotto cosa sei un pentito?

la lingua italiana di oggi è quella del manzoni e non mi sembra originario di napoli
go duolingo for today
notare che ha detto la spagna prima di tutti quindi è un suddito delle due sicilie come te, cvd

ma vattene, australiano falso