1. Your sovereign state

All libertarians here are nutjobs, but not all nutjobs are libertarian.

He's not wrong

Why and what do you consider yourself?

inb4 you are a le free thinker tipping his fedora

>bigger fish eats smaller fish

That's an ambigious metaphor. What do you mean by "eating"? In case you mean killing, you are wrong. Physical safety is a natural right in classical liberalism. And you are free to build your own wealth, since the right to personal property is another one.

>The Finn above might be stupid enough to be one as well.
Nope. I'm a classical social democrat, or in other words an orthodox marxist. And even I know that anarchism and capitalism are inherrently at odds, since capitalism and libertarianism are based upon the right to private ownership of land, which strips people of their freedom to utilize that which is in it's natural state the common property of everyone.

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>lets reposses the property from everyone and distribute it """fairly"""
-pol pot, mao, stalin, (You)

don't identify too strongly with any term, but nationalist is kind of close, and because librarianism seems too rootless, it views people and the nation as reducable to purely economic units, and that doesn't sit well with me, as for ancap, it's a meme ideology that will never move beyond the internet

t. sebastian izquierdo

>pol pot
>communist
Here we go again...

oh, and also cause i don't have some innate fear of using the government, it's like if there was a weapon in a room, as well as all of your opponents, sure you can choose to take the moral high ground and not use the weapon to enforce your will, but no one else will treat you the same back

theres some things a market just can't do that a government can, you need a mix

this unironically

>capitalism and libertarianism are based upon the right to private ownership of land
>of land

Libertarianism is based on the private ownership of oneself. Therefore you also own your time, your labor and the products of your labor. Taxing it would be akin to slavery. A good counterargument would be that "we live in a society" and by doing so we have to follow the rules of the society.

For example John Locke theoreticized that property is a natural right that should be protected by the government, but that the government as representative of the people is free to define what "the right to property" means in the first place.

Another liberal thought is the Lockean proviso. The Lockean proviso is a feature of John Locke's labour theory of property which states that whilst individuals have a right to homestead private property from nature by working on it, they can do so only "at least where there is enough, and as good, left in common for others."[1]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockean_proviso

im talking about business, it will eat you and you will lose your livelyhood because its going to be in a dominant position where your supposedly "unique" set of skills is going to be replaced by a less costy guys unique set of skills

Brazil
I wish that was me

>lives in mass surveillance state
>post was probably collected and dissected by some cia ai robot
>pays insane taxes
>pays 5$ for a coke cause minimum wage is like 20$ for burger flipping
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Not enough are
t. Ancap nutjob

bottom line is everyone should have the same and ample economic opportunity to buy land for themselves to live on by comverting their labour to cash and that cash to land. If you end up in a tent under a bridge its your fault. What that finn said was some paycho shit

That's the difference between the two.
Libertarians are in favor of a small government (a night-watchmen state ) while ancaps are the "no government REEE" memestars everyone bitches about.

you need your meds polfag shitstain

not an argument, never been on pol, gg thx

So how is this lower cost guy surviving if I can't survive on the same budget? That doesn't make sense. If you think like this, you want to prohibit all competition.

except that doesnt happen
washington.edu/news/2016/04/18/early-analysis-of-seattles-15-wage-law-effect-on-prices-minimal-one-year-after-implementation/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5615576/
>There is no evidence of change in supermarket food prices by market basket or increase in prices by food group in response to the implementation of Seattle’s minimum wage ordinance.
but keep touting your outdated theories you heard in a prageru vid

nah we don't even pay that bad taxes, its similar to american when you take into account social security.
Ok but why a mixed economy is good. My dad lived on a farm, his Dad is an absolute piece of shit. Basically stopped working when you couldn't cane kids anymore, was abusive and gambled away all the money my grandma made. But all 5 of his kids could go to uni, with part time jobs because of capitalism and either free or heavily subsidised government loans that they just wouldn't have been able to afford otherwise and every single one is now pretty much the perfect citizen, working decent jobs and buying as much shit as they can.
If it was a purely socialist or purely libertarian they would have been stuck doing fuck all as uneducated workers.

1) debt-colony of germany
2) no. but calling yourself either of those things here will get you branded as a cryptofascist.

Canada
They're not nutjobs, but it's still retarded.