What did the USA achieve by sending CIA to shit up the entire south american continent? No meme answers please.
What did the USA achieve by sending CIA to shit up the entire south american continent? No meme answers please
non meme answer: effectively halting the spread of communism in the area
To stop Communism, so that way all of South America didn't turn into North Korea or Moldova. Dumbass
control, influence, natural resources, US friendly allies and bananas
the goal was to stop soviet backed insurgencies from putting nukes in the western hemisphere
Made sure that they stay under US influence
First of all, the USA doesn't have full control of the CIA. And the USSR didn't have full control of the KGB. The thing about black ops is that they are hard to police internally.
Secondly, the USSR was supporting several politicians there as was the USA. The Cold War was characterized by these proxy wars: rather than engage each other head-to-head (which would be devastating) they limited themselves to puppeteering other governments to increase their sphere of influence against the other.
en.wikipedia.org
>us fruit company doesn't like guatemalan laws
>uses money (lobbying) to get the government to invade the country
>muh communism
Is it our fault that Central Americans are primitive jungle monkeys and love to butcher each other?
?
A private company lobbied to get the government to overthrow a democratically elected leader. Think about that.
Both sides were trying to get the other involved in a wasteful war a la Vietnam. Generally this was avoided by supporting proxies, although we had our Vietnam and the Soviets had their Afghanistan.
natural resources and cheap labour
>so they don't turn into North Korea or Moldova
>turn into Paraguay and Bolivia instead
to be honest yes
Somehow I don't think Belgium is the country that ought to be point han...I mean fingers about exploiting jungle people for cheap goods.
You are literally the same except lower than them
You have no right to disrespect any other nationalities. You are the lowest of the low, amerimutt. Your country is a shithole and the people are all brainwashed idiots who have no empathy. You are not allowed to disrespect others.
>Your country is a shithole and the people are all brainwashed idiots who have no empathy
Actually that's your country aka Russia (seeing as to how you're a proxy Putinbot and all that).
Do you think the US would be better off is there were rich strong countries in Latin America? No, of course not. The US fears all competition.
Yeah sure compare a private individual (king) in an age where information could still easily be hidden (no internet, barely any tv even) to the us where the people are so fucking stupid they support their government shitting up dozens of countries worldwide every time.
Fuck Russia
Fuck Putin
Kys dirty amerishit.
Thanks for supporting all those wonderful coups. Living under a military government was wonderful, you know, with the concentration camps, censorship and stuff. Nothing like North Korea, right?
people like the blame my country for everything, don't pay attention to it, they're the ones in control of their destiny
seething
>people like the blame my country for everything
Only commies/Stormfags/Mudslimes do that though.
our markets. we don't have many strong local brands, so we buy americans brands mainly. over european or asians. although that is slowly changing
>they're the ones in control of their destiny
PFFFFFFFFFFTTT
you really thinkk you're in control of YOUR OWN life??
do you... FEEL in control??
Brainwashed
There are many reasons why South America was and always will be shit, including culture, history, geography, and climate.
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>To stop Communism
do you really believe that?
No, the average person blames you for the problems you've caused.
You subhuman shit.
Threads closed. Any other answer requires a tinfoil hat.
>including culture, history, geography, and climate.
oh yes, it's a shame that we don't have the superior american culture.
no communist governments
Brainlet post of the year. The US cold war approach and even post 9/11 approach to conflict and intervention has always been more ideological than anything. One of the main reasons we lost in Vietnam is because we propped up a regime that was corrupt but non-communist. Populist support was non-existant outside of the large metropolitan areas. The US does an amazing job at misunderstanding the wants and needs of the people in other countries time and time again which leads to resentment.
Do you really not believe that? The Cold War was fucking serious you Macaque
Not having USSR ICBM nuke sites just south of them.
That's probably just about every country in the world, Finn friend.
better post than 2bh
you don't know anything about south america, there were 0 chances for us to become comunist.
No it isn't, amerimutt
as a matter of fact, yes
as opposed to you, listening to those select voices that tell you the true truth you can only hear from them I'm sure
The effort in Vietnam failed because we didn't pursue total war and because the KGB funded antiwar activists in the US.
Let's be real, the world would be better if some spaniards didn't find muttland.
>0 chances
ahem, there was Guevara... your countrymate ahem ehem ahum
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
YOU PATHETIC FAT PIECE OF SHIT
_YOU_ ARE NEVER IN CONTROL
_YOU_ ARE NOT A """"JEW"""""
_YOU_ ARE NOT FULLY WHITE
_YOU_ ARE NOT RICH
_YOU_ ARE IN CONTROL OF NOTHING
Then how come we didn't get an intervention even though we had a literal communist guerilla in our country?
Ok. Enlighten the class as to why there was a 0% chance of any country in South America allying with the USSR.
Yeah you're right we should have just dumped more kilotons of munitions into empty paddy fields.
The military strategy employed in Vietnam was by and large a huge failure. Marines would fight tooth and nail for some ubiquitously numbered hill and after losing half the platoon to get the top would be airlifted off the hill back to base.
because we have a conservative mind, we are mainly catholics and all that shit.
our actual govermen is from the right, and the most popular party in the country (peronismo) is named after Peron, a general who was trained in fasist italy, and had a lot of facist ideas.
we would never become commies, nor side with commies.
you're a nutjob, not enough of you were gassed by brazilians it seems
The correct action was to invade North Vietnam, but we didn't because Johnson and McNamara were idiots.
>you're a nutjob
and you're pathetic
you are not a """"jew"""""
you are not fully white
you are not rich
you're just some dumbass virgin spewing whatever shit your jews imprinted on your feeble brain
but most of all, you will NEVER get a girlfriend
We couldn't even push up beyond the DMZ what makes you think an invasion of North Vietnam would have been any better? The whole reason North Korea even exists today is because once UN forces invaded up into North Korea, Chinese troops pushed them back. What makes you think that Russia and China wouldn't have done the same?
Communism is just an economic and governmental policy, not a socially progressive one. Look at Russia, its Orthodox and very conservative. Yet was communist.
you are pathetic
you are not a military strategist
you are not rich
you are not fully white
you are not a """""jew"""" (not even the """"jews"""" are actually from Israel)
you will NEVER be in charge of even your own life
and you will NEVER have a girlfriend
you sound like a very insecure person, I'm sorry your life doesn't go as you planned
at this point russia and the chinese were not in cooperation, tension had been building between them.
you are pathetic
you are not a winner
you are not rich
you are not fully white
you are not a """"""jew""""""
everyone in Jow Forums is laughing at you
and you will NEVER have a girlfriend
You already lived under the government we just agreed they should kill gommies. That goes for a bunch of other LatAm countries.
>What makes you think that Russia and China wouldn't have done the same?
???
you are pathetic
you don't control your country's government, they control YOU
you are not a """"jew"""""
you are not rich
everyone in Jow Forums is laughing at you
you will NEVER have a girlfriend. NEVER
All those dictatorships were mostly the result of the indigenous political cultures of those countries; the US really didn't have that much influence.
Is this the power of central south american indio posting?
nuh uh, that means you supplied all the money arms and people and popular support they ever had, and every soldier in the argentine army was an american
Sorry I'm phone posting making breakfast I'll respond in a more clear manner once I'm back.
Policy wise you're right the Chinese and Russians had very different implementations of their view of communism which would lead to a complete rift in the 70's, but throughout the vietnam war the USSR and China both supplied the NVA with Artillery, AA and Flak guns, and small arms like the AK-47.
you are pathetic
you can't even troll me properly
you are not even full white, you mutt
you are not rich
you are not a winner
you will NEVER have a girlfriend
The real truth is, the US State Department didn't really want Pinochet and he was a bit of an embarrassing ally to have. We wanted Allende gone, yes, but not like that. The Reagan Administration pressured him to democratize and finally he stepped down at the end of the 80s.
>Pinochet
that's really the only case you know about, don't you? it's okay, there's no actual reason to learn about South American history
The Soviets had relatively little direct stake in Vietnam; for them it was mostly an opportunity to train army officers and test out military hardware. China's main interest was in keeping Vietnam divided since if it would reunify under either government, it could become a regional power and a threat to Chinese interests in Asia.
I will always be better than you, I suppose that's what's got you bothered. I'm sorry you feel flustered and all, but, the Anglo-Saxon man is the ultimate power in the universe after all, so the outcome never really was in doubt!
Brap!
Both the USSR and the PRC were heavily invested in Vietnam in an attempt to spread communism in East Asia.
From alphahistory.com
>Both Moscow and Beijing hoped to consolidate and expand communism in the Asian hemisphere ... To this day there is much speculation about exactly what was given and by whom. What can safely be assumed is that Soviet and Chinese support was vital to Hanoi and contributed to the successes of its operations in South Vietnam.
Since the NVA had a stated goal for re-unification, I'm not exactly sure that the PRC or USSR were inherently against the re-unification attempts.
you are pathetic
you are not better than even your countrymates
you are not rich
you are not fully white
you are not fully Anglo-Saxon
you are not in control
and you will NEVER have a girlfriend
do you get tired of looking like a retard?
You can see that almost as soon as the South fell, Hanoi and Beijing turned into insta-enemies.
you are pathetic
you are not smart
you are not a free thinker
you are not fully white
you will NEVER have a girlfriend. NEVER
I can spam things too, but I'm not some troglodyte without a valid opinion like you.
You're 100% right, and looking more into it there's some interesting stuff about soviet influence in Hanoi later on into the war.
From globalsecurity.org
> The Soviet Union had three clear objectives regarding the Vietnam conflict:
1) to maintain the advantages of peaceful cooperation with the US;
2) to support national liberation movements and their role in the eventual final victory of communism;
3) and to reduce the influence of the People's Republic of China (PRC) in the world communist movement.
The first link I linked even says at the bottom that in the later periods of the war, Hanoi's resources came mainly from the USSR and closely aligned itself with Moscow later. Thanks for teaching me something user. If you're also interested in this kind of stuff netflix has a 10 part documentary of the vietnam war which starts post WWII (after french colonialsim) and goes all the way until normalization with vietnam in the 90's. It's worth a watch.
Non-meme answer:
To uphold the status quo i.e. business relations and to prevent other countries from going the way of Cuba.
China had no desire for a unified Vietnam for the same reason they have never wanted a unified Korea; it would upset the power balance in the region which might be bad for them.
money, they achieved friendly governments who will fuck their nation for money and the USA get deals
no SA union of any sort, pants on head retarded spics larping as european countries with a nation
USA does whatever protects its power or influence or increases its power or influence. They didn't even care that much about commies and had no issues funding communist Yugos, they just wanted to curb Soviet power since they were rivals.
you don't have opinions
you are not a free thinker
you are not rich
you are not fully white
you are pathetic in your delusions of grandeur
and you will NEVER have a girlfriend
a little too late, already posted the answer
everything else is me beating up the fatso with a stick while he's teary saying "it doesn't hurt you monkey, ha ha!"
Always love it when the Kremlbots and seething 3rd worlders shit talk America for saving the world once again.
Isn't the only country the US has ever invaded in earnest us?
The rest were just destabilization and regime change. We turned out fine, it seems like the issue is squarely on your end. Just fight them like men and they go away.
you're clearly a nut, and you're engaging in a forum with a language you have terribly limited command of
>saving the world
you watched too much Armaggedon, son
>Just fight them like men and they go away
nah they took a page from """"their fathers"""" and did inside job by buying politicians instead
and that's fine, it's cunning. why spend your own ammo when you can spend the locals'
they wanted to get rid of socialism all together.
they succeeded.
>implying canadians ever fought us
>They didn't even care that much about commies and had no issues funding communist Yugos
Tito just took money from anywhere he could get it.
>they succeeded
but they didn't? they called it quits in the 90s
which is the obvious move since there was no more need to dickwave against the russians
and you're pathetic
you are not fully Anglo-Saxon
you butcher """your""" own language
you are not fully white
you are not rich
and you will NEVER have a girlfriend
one day, maybe not, you will realize this
And that's exactly why it failed.
The communists tried to be progressive and religion less, but the people were conservative and religious.
>Another 3rd world monkey trying to rationalize his seething, impotent jealousy of his superiors.
They tried to show you civilization and you refused. It's your fault, nor America.
Yeah, and Americans just gave money to whoever was anti-Stalin, even if they were also communists. US meddling in South America was probably about more than just "muh gommies".
>Canadian education
By the late 80s, as the Cold War was coming to a close, the US put increased pressure on its allies to democratize and support for various autocrats such as Suharto and Mobuto was withdrawn.
you're a worm, get eaten, die
Monroe pls
and you're pathetic
you are not fully white
you are not rich
you are not in control of your own life
you are not civilized
you are not a winner
and you will NEVER have a girlfriend
it was 100% anti communist/ militant anti american socialist
One day when you grow up you'll realize this.