Why are they always portrayed as poor and run down? Are they really that bad?
Why are they always portrayed as poor and run down? Are they really that bad?
>Are they really that bad?
Yes. Next question.
Do you live in a favela?
>Are they really that bad?
No. Next question
It is the most unequal region in the world. The worst parts are Africa tier, the best parts are Northern Europe tier. On average, they are usually in the middle of the world on every index of wellbeing.
Although they do have more violence than average, mostly because the illegal drug industry is big there.
These are called Conos here. And no, not yet.
is the iberian mindset to be blamed for their failures as a country? I always see Mexican and Brazilian posters exclaiming how if the Anglos or Dutch colonised them they'd be on par with the US even though most of them would inherit the same problems america has
That is...partially true, but dishonest. There were different colonies with different populations and different ways of making money. Spain focused on mineral extraction using natives as labour, portugal was a plantation owner, while Anglos in general just killed everyone. Cono sur and australia are more related because it was plains. Had Argentina used a proper Homestead act, like the US, they would absolutely be first world I believe.
The good parts are euro tier, the bad parts are africa tier. We truly are multicultural.
Is a multicultural shithole-paradise
Depends of where are you.
Is a lot of Km.
The south is the best
Is Nicaragua a poor country now or is it a developed country with a government that can deter gangs? I remember reading about how most of Central America was a playground for CIA and the US industry in which they would try to beat down on local autonomy just to protect their industrial interests there
We have been screwing ourselves up before the US even existed, thank you very much. But yeah, I would take a full on invasion before those CIA fucks.
Nicaragua (except for the turmoil now) is where CA starts to get safe and good again. They are a small pop, relatively homogenous, and safe. I would say they are closer to Colombia culturally, where we are closer to Mexico.
>local autonomy
404 not found. Central American cunts since colonial times were never anything more than vehicles for resource extraction.
>But yeah, I would take a full on invasion before those CIA fucks
Or worse, Cuban fucks.
My mistake.
I mistook your flag for Nicaragua.
Is Guatemala also on a right track to being more stable now? How do you deal with gangs like MS-13 that comes into your country to cause trouble? Are they as bad as Mexican Cartels who skin their enemies?
Problem is that we inherited a lot of cultural and economic traits that were kind of obsolete, which only helped to drag us down. And when Iberians settled here they didn't have in mind to create a place to for them to live, they instead wanted territories for bucks.
The fact that our natives weren't genocided also contributed in our current situation. After our independence, we only focused on the development of those certain parts that already were important to the crown, while the remaining areas of the country (mostly inhabited by natives) weren't paid much attention. This, along with our caste system, which prioritized the interests and needs of the high class (comforted by cri*llos), further contributed to the slow development of our economies and inefficient approaches towards money management.
But, to be quite honest, I don't think that this is our main problem. It may have caused the big issue, but I don't think that this is a reason to blame at this point. This main problem is the fact that we see mediocrity as something acceptable.
>most of them would inherit the same problems america has
You mean Hispanics?
t. Brazilian who moved to America
Worse. We had no minerals so we existed for cheap labour only.
Well we just sent our UN Corruption probe packing, so corruption is...not great. Also yes, we are as bad as cartels only we make significantly less money. We are also very violent yes and have many gangs.
Also, sorry for the constant misspelling but I think that you can get what I'm saying.
no as in wh*te autism such as claiming you are 1/nth of a race and using race based theories to shit on people darker than you causing racial divide still seen to this day
So the Iberians basically treated the colonisation of Lat Am as a bigger homestead act except they want a permanent land claim instantly and a some cash to compensate them?
I've heard of how Spain's caste system caused it's downfall since most colonies where willing to join with Spain in exchange for being accepted as Spaniards themselves.Why was the caste system put in place and does it's legacy still haunt South America to this day on par with Slavery issues in the US?
>Well we just sent our UN Corruption probe packing
So you guys kicked them out or did you guys pass their corruption test?
Yes, and no
>inb4 amerimutt
I admit I'm an Anglo, but my mum is argentine and I lived in Brazil for 15 years.
Brazil reminds me of China, in that you have first world mansions and private schools and favelas only 10 minutes from each other. The infrastructure is shit, public education is garbage, crime is wack, etc. But if you can afford it (as in, be rich), you'll live a life of comfort and only face some minor inconveniences due to all the poverty
Nah the gov did not like that they were picking on the oligarchs instead of the narcos, so our president (funded by the oligarchs) said they have to leave in a year.
Do Americans call you a mexican cholo in school/work? Do they look at you whenever Trump talks about immigration?
Why were they picking on the oligarchies rather than the narcos?
That I cannot say. Both oligarchs and narcos are doing harm. I guess they thought they would cooperate?
American propaganda
>So the Iberians basically treated the colonisation of Lat Am as a bigger homestead act except they want a permanent land claim instantly and a some cash to compensate them?
Yes.
>Why was the caste system put in place?
It helped to establish and enforce a social hierarchy imposed by the colonizers.
>and does it's legacy still haunt South America to this day on par with Slavery issues in the US?
Because we enabled it for centuries even after our independence without realizing it. And this kind of contributed to our current problems such as centralization (everyone that wanted to get out of poverty had to go to the big cities where the majority of Criollos and mestizos were settled, and where the biggest investments directed to development were focused) and aggression from natives (whose are distrustful our of government actions after centuries of isolation and mistreatment from the state).
Are there any policies put in place in Lat Am to integrate the natives? What about Centralisation? Are there any policies or action taken to de-centralise and spread the wealth around each Latin American nation?
South America didn't have the climate, favorable geographical position, or cultural mentality to become First World.
>favorable geographical position
only reasonable thing in all that shitpost
:¬D someone has been learning here......
yes pls send money, situation is dire
Bolivia and paraguay have done their natives best, although peru is up there now. We treated them the worst I believe, and still do. Also a homestead act for later immigration is what I believe truly separates us from anglo colonies, because it would have filled our interiors more. Most all immigrants to argentina went to buenos aires, and it just solidified it as king. Brazil tried to fix this with brazilia to no avail. Mexico got close, but Mexico is weird because it borders the US.
why are there threads like this every day, even down to the image.
PFFFFFFFFFT
why the fuck you include my country?
the ACTUAL natives live in shitty reservations after we copied the USA system and stopped genociding them
they live a miserable existence now, it's like watching a tiger rot in a zoo cage
>"but you speak a native language??"
it's OUR language, not theirs. here, have a map
Stay in your damn progressive-all- are- faggots dystopia of country you have damn fool!
Which one is the biggest shithole?
>Singapore is going to remove an anti-gay law rarely enforced
progressive I guess?
>Although they do have more violence than average, mostly because the illegal drug industry is big there.
70% of homicides in Latam are caused by casual fights
Just 6% of people in Latam live in favelas, you retarded
Do you think that someone who speaks english live in a favela??
>South America didn't have the climate, favorable geographical position, or cultural mentality to become First World.
And we have fucking terrorists as our northern neighboors
this brazilian poster was from a favela, and took photos with timestamp
he's dead now i guess
>giving it (You)
are you mad??
to be honest, whenever someone brings up South America in American shows they'd show either poor neighbourhoods with everone speaking in a forced accent or rich syndicatos selling drugs to people.
El Salvador is poor and the most violent but Maduro is crashing Venezuela with no survivors and the people aren't getting enough food.
>Are there any policies put in place in Lat Am to integrate the natives?
There are social programs which main objective is to help everyone living in poverty (natives are the largest group under the poverty line) in getting a decent education or study abroad.
But the last is only directed towards superior education and most people aren't aware of the existence of this program. Then we have our problem with our public schools, the government only focuses on elementary school, because their interest isn't creating independent individuals capable of making informed decisions on their own.
>Are there any policies or action taken to de-centralise and spread the wealth around each Latin American nation?
Yes, but these aren't very effective because of their ambiguousness and people's will to use their law to their own advantage.
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Você nem é paraguaio e sim um brasileiro vira-latas que foi fazer bosta no Paraguais, pedaço de merda
It sucks being a thirdie but at least I have a gf with a huge ass
Probably the US
IBGE: 6% da população brasileira mora em favelas
Em todo o País foram identificadas 6.329 aglomerados espalhados em 323 municípios
LOS
>But the last is only directed towards superior education and most people aren't aware of the existence of this program
Can you elaborate on this part more? Why don't the government explain it on national television or radios?
You guys made El Salvador a violent cesspool tbf.Maduro and Venezuela is a gone case
>the best parts are Northern Europe tier
Just people with recent european and asian heritage live in these places.
For them, the life here is 100x better than if they had been born in Europe
yes you are mad
estou me referindo a dar o que o troll quer: (You)s
ele se gaba no seu ódio
It's so tiresome, if only you knew how bad things are.
Are Haitian refugees like Niggers there?
pussy
This. Thanks Spain for creating thicc latinas
You speak to a Moor who can't accept racial fact.
>spain
Thicc latinas come from our diet and a mix with amerindians
We have less homicides than you and we are 100% moor while you are only 5%. Races have little to do with violence.
LATAM: Do you know what is the worst?
We accept being dominated by a failed meme state that never, NEVER, has won a war.
We should hang our vassal elite
sure, Adelio Bispo de Oliveira
you start
>Why don't the government explain it on national television or radios?
For the same reason why the government stopped the mortgage tax deduction. As soon as people are aware of it, they will overuse it, and the state can't afford to fund the education of 6 million people now. Right now the last thing that the state wants is accumulating debt.
Race have all to do with violence and when I spoke aboute Moor I didn't spoke about Spaniard but about YOU
kinda? But what firsties don't know is that extreme poverty has reduced all over the world so it's not that bad. We are also like 30 years ahead of Africa but 20/30 behind Europe and North America in infraestructure, education, and so on (not all of the third world is the same). We are trying our best!
White brazilians have 7 times the income of black brazilians on average.
Please, do not talk about how Latam is unequal without talk about race inequallity
But yes, blacks should have less babies. They have a FR of 3 babies while whites have a FR of 0,9
Yes we are. I'm apparently part of the top 8% of what is said to be the best latam country, and our income is that of the median american family
The annual median household income here is around 9k.
Nice try, Jesn Pierre Garcia but you aren’t white
LATAM: Do you know what is the worst?
We accept being dominated by a failed meme state that never, NEVER, has won a war.
We should hang our vassal elite
Chink (if youre really a chink)
Latam is like Asia: you have people living a Japan´s tier life and people living a India´s tier life.
Thats it
now i regret giving (You) to that petralha autist
my honest mistake
We are not trying hard enough. With a country like ours, other cultures would have already reach super power status.
Take every single Japanese citizen and bring it here, and move all argies to Japan. See what happens.
>no as in wh*te autism such as claiming you are 1/nth of a race and using race based theories to shit on people darker than you causing racial divide still seen to this day
Bruh look at homicide rates in the Americas, literally worse than Africa
Portugal banned industries, universities, schools and press from Brazil.
In 1900, 95% of brazilian population were illiterate while in USA 90% of population knew how to read
here
They think we speak Spanish in Portuguese, but no I don't get any looks of slurs because I'm blonde and my father is a white af Irishman and my mother is an Italo-Argentine, I'm only Hispanic in that I speak Spanish (and Portuguese)
>Take every single Japanese citizen and bring it here, and move all argies to Japan.
Read this before start talking bullshit, colonized mindiset
Fucking colonized bitch
Do most mestizos and whites hate blacks in LATAM?
>And we have fucking terrorists as our northern neighbors
Terrorists is a bit of a harsh word for Pooruvians. I prefer to call them "special".
Portugal banned industries, universities, schools and press from Brazil.
In 1900, 95% of brazilian population were illiterate while in USA 90% of population knew how to read
They just wanted to extract gold and exploit the plantations in Northeast.
And a population made up of slaves were not able to be a consumer market
Yes, and blacks hate themselves.
Our mindset is colonized.
We worship northern european people and hate ourselves and southern europeans and africans and middle easterners
Throwing money at you wont solve the problem, just like it didnt fix Africa.
I dont get this pathetic "we wuz oppressed by foreign powers" excuse. Japan was LITERALLY MEDIEVAL when they made contact with an industrial powerhouse, they saw the writing on the wall and got to work, less than 50 years later and Japan itself was an industrial power and defeating Europeans at war.
Brazil, and Argentina, etc. Had the whole 19th century to build themselves up, you failed because of your own incapability.
We don't hate them but recognize that they have no soul
You know that that monkey you're replying to is a mentally ill communist spammer.
some of them do, they think they are somewhat superior due to their skin tone
In 1822 yes, in 1900 Brazil was independent for 80 years
In 80 years, Japan went from being a medieval society to being a Great Power that sat among the Europeans as an equal.
Bro, the main problem with latam is education and lack of a strong working culture.
That, and the fact Asian countries have a higher IQ. Is not about having FREE GIBS retard.
Yeah I was talking about the region in general, but also about the less developed parts of our country that are improving even by inertia alone. It is difficult to imagine a country in the position that our country was 100 years ago that takes a series of worse decisions than we did. It seems like we are always a step behind the geopolitical changes determined by the first world
Chile is unironically great, already have a higher HDI than Portugal and most of Eastern Europe. I hope you guys can become an American Switzerland soon.
>worse than Africa
that's because war casualties are on statistics apart
gang wars should be on those statistics
>an Italo-Argentine
eww dawg
And the geography--it's isolated from the main world trade routes, which East Asia is not.
Peronism ruined us. Sorry but that's the fucking true
found the phonefag
Really even before the junta? That's the one I always hear complaints about.
Chile has the highest inequality in the region tho. Still a good country.
IQ off the charts
Too bad Blanqueamiento wasn't fully completed.
If you're talking about HDI we're around Hungary tier and when adjusting for Inequality we're Romania/Bulgaria tier, which only seems good because nearly every country around us is somehow even worse. I'm optimistic but you're celebrating way too early.
That metric is shit, it put Spain below Belarus
in practice we still beat anyone here
Yeah but adjusted to inequality places Iberia below fucking Kazakhstan and Belarus. Spain is objectively superior to those 2 in every way possible.