Monarchy

because fuck you that is why

b&r

Based
Any monarchy is better than none

Look, I know that in ebin videogames and movies monarchies look very romantic and cool with the flashy crowns and ceremonies and so on but I get the feeling that when it comes to an oligarchic third world country, the idea of going back to being ruled by an unelected aristocrat who happened to be born from the right person would make such country look more backwards.

Well that would certainly be the case, if Dom Pedro II's time weren't the most liberal and prosperous of our country

still nigger

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>m*narchy
ew

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nigger that rules over you

India superpower by 2020
Brazil Monarchy superpower by 2028

Constitutional Monarchy is okay if the constitution doesn't limit the power of the monarch too much.
Do you really think most people in Brazil are qualified to vote?
Look how powerful China has become under a dictatorship.

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>liberal
Yeah, about that...
>Brazil was the last country in the Western world to abolish slavery. By the time it was abolished, in 1888, an estimated four million slaves had been imported from Africa to Brazil, 40% of the total number of slaves brought to the Americas. For comparison, the United States received about 3.5%.

Stalin was pretty much a new monarch, an absolutist one. So yeah, not really helping your point there.

>slavery means that the economy isn't liberal
Also the royal family was openly anti-slavery since day 1, but the parliament and the elites were completely for it, hence when they abolished slavery the monarchy fell

still nigger

>if the constitution doesn't limit the power of the monarch too much.
then the monarch is an accessory
basically tourist attraction, like in the UK

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>still nigger
suck my BBC slave
They are planning to give the emperor the same powers as in the XIX century tho

Exactly.
Make Monarchs Respectable Again

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What a considerate guy, it only took him over 50 years of rule to abolish slavery but he really cared about their freedom, I'm sure.
Also, slavery quite literally by definition precludes liberty so forcing people that you own to work, and I'm just taking a guess here, might not be too liberal.

Also, the point was how liberal Brazil under Pedro II was, not his alleged personal thoughts on slavery.

>What a considerate guy, it only took him over 50 years of rule to abolish slavery but he really cared about their freedom, I'm sure.
Yeah let's shove it down everyone's throat, make everyone rebel and spark a civil war like in the US! Sure it will work just fine!
>Also, slavery quite literally by definition precludes liberty so forcing people that you own to work, and I'm just taking a guess here, might not be too liberal.
If by liberal you mean morally liberal, I am talking about economic liberalism, which in the monarchy were freedom m8 and small government.

It could work in a place like Brazil but i don't think it will be of any significance to the """""worldwide monarchist movement""""" which sounds like delusional shit straight outta Jow Forums

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I dislike the Romanian royal family but people in this country are so fucking dumb that they can't decide for themselves and always elect corrupt politicians. We should go back to a monarchy or dictatorship.

The orleanist movement in France is literally crazy about this m8, obviously because the imperial royal family is a branch of the Orleans, also if we succeed it would probably create political momentum against globalism and moral liberalism to the point of shilling monarchist movements worldwide, I mean even in places where things are against western culture like Russia. I mean like it or not, we are the country most advanced in the Globalization project m8, due to our history of racemixing, centralization and homogenization, and now we are going to the complete opposite direction

I lmao at the fact you elected a Transylvanian saxon.
Same thing with Poland electing silesian german.
Why'd you have to so brutally murder Ceausescu anyway?

>Why'd you have to so brutally murder Ceausescu anyway?
Because he was a cunt. Iohannis is unironically based. Everybody else is shit because people voted for the worst party in the parliamentary elections and beyond

Wtf im gonna annex your cunt and replace it with gay muslim duke now.

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The brazilian monarchy was not an authoritarian autocracy. It was a parliamentary democracy. Pedro was a parliamentarian.

>if we succeed it would probably create political momentum against globalism and moral liberalism
Excellent, I wish you the best of luck brazuca bro.
btw when do the elections start?

7 of october

I'll be shilling for you on Jow Forums that day

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Thanks bro!

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Wait, the guy everyone's calling a fascist wants to bring back the monarchy?
That makes no sense.

exactly, he is conservative and literally has appointed a libertarian as the economy minister, the media is on full damage control, especially when their alternative is literally a puppet of a socialist that is in prison

Based to be honest.
Sometimes democracy doesn't work.

will it be a member of the Braganza house that he wants to be the monarch?

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no because it'll still be a shithole

The direct heirs of Dom Pedro II, which are from the Orleans-Braganza family hue

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Brazil isn't getting a monarchy back ever. At the most you will get a right wing government that will screw things up even more until another military dictatorship happens. Kind of like Mexico. It will never get better because the average br doesn't want it to get better.

>It will never get better because the average br doesn't want it to get better.
elaborate

>It will never get better because the average br doesn't want it to get better.
Yes hence why we are still governed by Dilma Rousseff haahaha

It's a problem all South American countries have:

>poor rural people want to remain poor, rural and catholic
>landowner catholic aristocrats do not want any industry because it would require them to obtain bank loans to finance it
>poor urban people want to remain poor because they're going to die before 40 anyway
>industrialists are fine with all of this because they will extract what they need and dump all the money into their swiss bank accounts
>anyone with talent just leaves for America anyway
>virtually no middle class exists, and those that fall from the middle class back into poverty just accept it or go into crime

Result: everything stays the same.

t. doesn't know shit about LatAm

>thinking any ideology matters when both Lula, Dilma and Bolsonaro are all Brazilians

The only reason Mexico industrialized was because America shot their leader and replaced it with a klan member/cop who then imposed national socialism. Brazil has no such comparable leader, unless you were to readopt a military dictatorship. But this is unlikely because who wants a military dictatorship besides the military command and America?

yo hecho en mexico

Based

Why would poor people want to remain poor though? Isn't it "muh poor masses want to be uplifted by capitalism" one of the biggest memes around these days?

Ok, now you honestly think that LatAm is all Mexico?
>Brazil has no such comparable leader, unless you were to readopt a military dictatorship.
Who is Getúlio vargas? Also you clearly don't know shit about BR history to the point of thinking the military dictatorship in Brazil was a one strong man leader. Industrialization doesn't really come from top to bottom m8, also if anything Brazil is the most industrialized country of LatAm
>I do in Mexico
great spanish

Because they're illiterate and don't know any better? These are the sort of people who have no electricity, no phone service, and their only social activity is sunday church where a priest reads them the bible orally. Most people get around on donkeys or horses, with the occasional dirtbike or 4x4 for trading products with a nearby town (which itself might only have a single working payphone). Their only experiences with industry (eg, capitalism) occur if they have to take a van into a nearby city for work, where they are treated like shit for being stupid, illiterate and poor. The only time they work with cash (not barter) if when they buy diesel from the government gas station, where they only know what type gas to buy because of the color not the name. Every time they have to talk to someone smarter than them, they are usually spat on, told to fuck off, or have money demanded from them. It's not exactly a thing they want in their own communities.

He is retarded and spouting only memes

This.

t. from a stable country that had pinochet

any link on the french orleanism reacting?

there was a video about it, I will try to find it

patria, rei

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familia

Your king is Portuguese, you should become a colony again

Yeah, I look forward to see the capital of the portuguese empire in Rio again

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>Sometimes democracy doesn't work.
Its the worst thing that have ever happended to my country

>Being the cuckold of the Dictator/dumb king
Weak and Bluepilled

>being the cuckold of the bread and circus masses

Power to the people

The people are retarded.
I'd rather not be ruled by whom they consider to be the best leader.

And what makes you think the dictator/king is not?

At least in democracy you can elect a anti-migrants government if the migrant policy is not working out, but if you are ruled by a cuckold king like the British Royal family, you will have open borders for 80 years until he dies.
Fuck that

>Power to the people
Keep telling yourself that when government and corporate oligarchs keep "the people" in line.

>monarchists

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>what makes you think the dictator/king is not?
he is less likely.
After all, he's being trained his whole life to leade, whereas the people barely know who's running.
King's can be migrant cucks, but that's what a strong constitution for specific issues is for.
You could elect an anti-migrant leader, but chances are, you won't.
I'd think you would at least remember the benefits of Estado Novo.
this

Prince Carl-Philip is the rightful heir to the Brazilian throne

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no

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Too bad for you

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