/lang/ – Language Learning General

>What language are you learning?
>Share language learning experiences!
>Ask questions about your target language!
>Help people who want to learn a new language!
>Find people to practice your target language with!
>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!

Learning resources:
First and foremost check the Jow Forums Wiki. (feel free to contribute)
4chanint.wikia.com/wiki/The_Official_Jow Forums_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

Check this pastebin for plenty of language resources as well as some nice image guides.
pastebin.com/ACEmVqua (embed) (embed)

/Lang/ is currently short on those image qts, so if you can pitch in to help create one for a given language, don't hesitate to do so!

Torrents with more resources than you'll ever need for 30 plus languages:
Mega link with books for all kinds of languages:
mega.nz/#F!x4VG3DRL!lqecF4q2ywojGLE0O8cu4A


FAQ:
>How do I learn a language? What is the best way to learn one? How should I improve on certain aspects?
Ideally take a class, otherwise buy (torrent) a well-received textbook for your language, google any grammar you have trouble with and no matter what do lots of translation exercises. Duolingo is fine to use in addition to whatever else you are but a poor idea to use on its own.
>When can I move on to a different language?
At a minimum of when you've gotten the grammar for your current language down, or being able to shitpost in its respective general without much effort.
>What language should I learn
If you have to ask, German. Russian if you especially want a challenge
>Should I learn X to get a qt wife/gf?
No, fuck off

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i've made several arguments. i have yet to hear a single valid point why finnish is a particularly hard language compared to say slavic ones. i already debunked the 15 cases meme.

The only thing you ever said was "ackshually its not hard anglos r just dumb XD". Do something besides shitposting and posting uninformed opinions if you want anyone to take you seriously

>"ackshually its not hard anglos r just dumb XD"
i'm not wrong you know

Only proving my point, you don't have the slightest idea what the fuck you're talking about and are just full-throttle shitposting

Learning Japanese. Trying to get through Pimsleur. I was struggling remembering it all doing it once in the morning and once at night, doing the same 30 min lesson 2x. I seen someone say they would play it on repeat at work. I've done that for the past couple days and I feel like Im progressing and remembering better. I loop it and then listen to some music at the same time.

this is rich coming from a German l m a o

When have the Germans ever been wrong?

Don't start this shit here

But he's right, you know. Anglos (especially Americans) usually don't learn second languages, or learn them at a lower rate than others, and so they're dumber at picking up languages.

Learning Croatian. Very easy after learning Spanish in university. Keep practicing, listen to the music, and watch films too. You'll get it! Also, really understand and recognize patterns as to which kinds of words conjugate and how they do so. Also keep a journal with word bank and write everyday about what happened. Of course just using the words you know.

>Svaki dan, sam malo jaden jer želim ići u Hrvatska sa moja famalja. Vamo na America su puno ljude ali ne puno srce za dom i famalija.

Ali hvala bog za sve. Tamo su idea za naš život od On.
Gdje hrvat zene?
Do I just fly over there to find one?

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i'm sorry but this is horrible. looks like you haven't even peeked at noun declension yet.

Not that, but it's irrelevant anyway. If you learn a second language [especially out of necessity] as a kid that's barely going to help you unless the second is similar to the third. He's a fucking moron who thinks his opinions are facts regardless

No, Americans are literally not familiar with learning second languages outside of mediocre high school classes that don't really work. Normies who aren't really into language learning who are Anglos have a harder time picking up a new language because they don't know how to do it. It is different if you have gone out of your way to do it as a hobby in your free time, but that's not something a lot of Americans do.

>but that's not something a lot of Americans do.
You know just because you post things doesn't mean it's true. Kids don't know how to learn languages, they just absorb everything, and your claim that Americans are less likely to do it as a hobby compared to anyone else is a claim you blatantly pulled out of your ass.

The original point is Finnish is not "medium difficulty" and his claim was based nowhere in reality

Have you ever been outside? If you have been, you'd know that there are tons of Americans crying about how hard their Spanish class is and get upset over how trying to memorize 4 different articles is hard. I'm not kidding. That's not something common on Jow Forums because we're all autists here who like to learn new languages, but it's common with Americans who don't learn other languages as a hobby.

Are you saying Europeans love their forced language classes in middle school? There's absolutely no urgency to learn Spanish for us [memes aside] unlike English for Europeans. It's a complete false equivalency. I didn't like taking Spanish in middle/highschool and yet I'm here learning far harder ones

I'm saying that American education for second languages is shit. The fact that there's also no urgency for you to learn a second language makes it harder for you. What don't you understand about this? I already said that it's normie Anglos outside of Jow Forums and stuff who have a harder time with it, not you in particular.

I'm saying you either have an interest or you don't and that has nothing to do with country. What don't you understand about this?

Yeah, I'm still working on my English. Will try harder next time :^)

Are you even talking about anglos or americans, make up your fucking mind

Instead of des it should dat (if he means dees, it's the demonstrative pronoun in the genitive case)
> Dir misst mech ee Stëft bréngen.
That's more akin to "You must bring me a pen" also "dir" is either plural or genitive 2nd person, I would simply use "du".
[Du sollst mech ee Stëft bréngen]
>Ech wäert den Zait benotzen.
This is "I will use the time" it should be "Ech ginn den Zonk mollen"
>Är Hoer si laang a rout gewierwt.
Her is "seng". "Used to be" should become "waren"
[Seng hoer waren eemols laang an rout]
> Ech wonneren ob ech e Roman ginn schreiwen.
Ech wonnere mech ob ech e Roman schreiwen ginn.
>Denkt Dir Iech de Präis deen ech Dir verlooss hunn?
Erënnerste dech d'Geschenk deen ech da läscht Joer ginn hunn?
> Sollt mir Pingpong spillen?
Solle, not sollt
>Gitt e Biene vu Frëndlechkeet a léiert d'Begrenzung vu Frëndlechkeet.
Hiew eng Biene op aus Frëndlechkeet an léier d'Begrenzung vu Frëndlechkeet.
The last one is beyond recognition unless I rewrite it.

People without an interest in language learning who aren't Anglos still generally have an easier time picking up more languages.

Not enough to drop Finnish to a "medium difficulty"

>take spanish all through high school and do two years in uni
>never need it because I worked with white people
>decide to go into construction trade because academics are for faggots
well now that there are mestizos crawling all over the job sites I work at I might as well pick it back up. I remember much more than I expected, I can pick out many words I recognize though I mostly miss out the full structures of the sentences. I seem to recall reading on Jow Forums about some website that sets up chatrooms for people to communicate with people in other languages, for mutual learning purposes. Does such a thing exist or am I retarded (could be yes to both)? I also remember some people complaining that it was hard to find people who wanted to communicate in anything but english.

Seriously? You would classify that as hard? It's easy.

t. turk that cant get white pussy

no they dont. most swiss learn french/german in school and never pick it up. most only know there native tongue and english

No, every site that ranks this in existence would classify it as hard for an English speaker. Unless you speak Hungarian or some barely spoken meme language whose people don't even exist on the internet it's going to be hard for nearly everyone

he is a brown turkroach that is seen as subhuman in europe and tries to one up himself on an anonymous board by insulting le anglos xD

Source?
I've learned languages with more cases than that and it's easy, stop whining Ameribrainlet. There is no reason to believe that memorizing a case is more difficult than memorizing a preposition of the same meaning.

effectivelanguagelearning.com/language-guide/language-difficulty

Duration of learning =/= difficulty.

I legitimately can't tell if you're this much of a fucking idiot or just baiting

>Unless you speak Hungarian
hungarian and finnish are about as close to each other as russian is to english. in the same language group but completely different apart from the very basics for all intents and purposes.

yeah those are difficulty tiers for ANGLOS... who suck at learning languages as we have already established. you could drop most of these languages by a tier or two for non-anglos.

based anglo hating turk

Let's say there is an ablative case. In the ablative case, you attach a suffix onto a word which basically changes the meaning to "from (noun)". The case does not decline for gender.
This is literally the same as memorizing the word "from". There is no difference in difficulty.

>Nope, doesn't count because I said it doesn't
Can you two just go shit up some other thread?

What's your explanation for cases somehow being more difficult than memorizing a single preposition/postposition?

Why German? I'm interested in the language, I train dogs and the founder has us do it in G*rman already. Sadly, his faggot son never bothered to learn the language and I barely see the dad.

Are you just arguing with yourself now

i don't think he knows what postpositions, prepositions or even cases are. considering his flag i can't say i'm surprised.

The fuck do you an expect from a country who's claim to fame is "geographically close to a great power?" Ignore the leaf, considering he's talking shit about anglos (which Canadians are) he's likely a shitter immigrant or some faggot using a proxy to sully the okay name of a mediocre country.

You can't provide evidence that learning a case suffix is harder than memorizing a preposition of the same significance. I guess you gave up so I am indeed "arguing with myself" now.

>>The fuck do you an expect from a country who's claim to fame is "geographically close to a great power?"
muh pull syrup

These two are either baiting or underage children who don't actually understand how stupid they are. All they've been doing is passing off their dumbshit opinions as facts and going "U CANT PROVE ME RONG DUMB BURGERFAT XDD". It's honestly embarrassing to watch

Reasonably easy but difficult enough to be somewhat interesting, consistent, very useful etc.

Yes, that's how an argument works. You have the burden of proof when it comes to proving your claim that Finnish is a difficult language, so you provide evidence that it is difficult.

I am French, Anglo-brainlet.

How about instead of arguing with some burger on Jow Forums you gain some international prestige? Go win a war or something.

I did last thread and was arguing against the claim that it was only "medium difficulty" for non-Anglos which nobody has ever provided evidence for while conveniently ignoring any sources posted. You and your retarded friend aren't worth bringing the thread down, go fish for (You)s somewhere else.

Yeah, and I'm the king of Britain, lmao.

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weforum.org/agenda/2017/07/these-countries-have-the-most-positive-influence-on-the-world/

Medium is default. It doesn't have to be proven. That's like asking to prove that God doesn't exist. If you make the claim that difficulty exists in a language, you have to prove it.

Do you actually have some sort of brain damage?

>Finnish is hard
>No it isn't
>Here's a source saying it's hard
>Um no it's actually medium prove me wrong
>Here's a source again
>Lol you can't prove me wrong dumb american
Great thread, really good language learning going on here

Let's not forget
>I'm French
>Leaf

>Here's a source saying it's hard
*hard for anglos

which means p much nothing. anglos even struggle to learn babby languages like spanish

Don't give the kraut/leaf (You)s for the sake of the thread

Learning Finnish right now; it's quite hard.

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>it's quite hard.
why?

You have provided no evidence that it's hard. I tried to help you look in the right direction for evidence by asking you to prove how memorizing a case suffix is harder than memorizing a preposition, but you came up with nothing for that one.
All your "evidence" is easily debunked, unreliable.

Got to love how Jow Forums x lets me hide replies along with a post

Difficult, I suppose. Do you speak it?

That's a good way to block out opinions and facts you disagree with. Have fun in your personalized echo chamber.

@95421013
Not even worth it

>why is finnish hard
>Difficult, I suppose.
the fuck of a response is this

>Do you speak it?
nope. i do know hungarian (also not a particularly hard language) though and have dabbled in finnish. i also happen to be an expert on spurdo memes.

>why is finnish hard
>Difficult, I suppose.
This is hard evidence that Americans are retarded and so they think Finnish is too hard for them to learn.

>the fuck of a response is this

>nope. i do know hungarian (also not a particularly hard language) though and have dabbled in finnish. i also happen to be an expert on spurdo memes.

>This is hard evidence that Americans are retarded and so they think Finnish is too hard for them to learn.

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hallo, ich heiße user und ich lerne Deutsch seit langem, aber ich habe nur vor kurzem angefangen es regelmäßig zu lernen
ich habe schon vielleicht die A2 niveau erreicht. bitte korrigiert mich

Any Italian user can proofread this please?

Anche se i fedeli alla tradizione si sono ridotti a una manciate sono loro che sono la vera chiesa de Gesù Cristo. Durante questo periodo di grande crisi noi riprendiamo le parole di sant'atanasio. Per la gloria della nostra religione necessario un risveglio dalla letargia che è intorpidito la nostra fede e conseguentemente la comprensione della verità. La via da intraprendere per la salvezza delle nostre anime della nostra amata terra è quella della crociata. Una crociata contro i nemici della verità, contro i nemici della religione, contro il peccato, contro il peccato, contro il secolarismo, contro il modernismo, contro la falsità, contro l'ipocrisia! Armate di dunque delle armi della verità e combattete la buona battaglia non domani fratelli ma oggi! Che la vera fede vi sproni ad annientare il sonno imposto dai governi moderni e vi esorti a vivere come veri cristiani perché non c'è fede senza combattere!

Huh, why are you so angry? You don't even speak the language. I fear you have another area of expertise: being a cunt. Anyways, it's a lot different from English and Spanish but I like it so far. I'd recommend it, but I think that attitude is universal.

Hallo, ich heiße user und ich lerne seit langem Deutsch, aber ich habe erst vor kurzem angefangen regelmäßig zu lernen.
Vielleicht habe ich schon das Niveau A2 erreicht. Bitte korrigiert mich.

>I fear you have another area of expertise: being a cunt.

that's a good skill to have though.

Sure it is, if you want to die a lonely and miserable man.

Why are you people even responding to the Turk and the froggish leaf? They’re both obviously just assmad at Anglos because they were forced to learn English in school while we were lucky enough to grow up knowing the world’s most useful language

Not if he's hot and/or has money.

danke sehr
nicht verbundenes Bild

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You're still giving them attention, continuing this garbage

>talk to Dutch person
>every sentence has a different word order

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did you just assume my gender?

You're asshurt that you struggle to learn Spanish or some shit.

You better shut your mouth before I kiss it, xir.

maybe i wouldn't mind :3

fags get out

Kiss me instead

>the shitposters are gay internet penpals who secretly crave the warmth of a saxon cock
The greatest fiction writers of our time couldn't fabricate such a tale.

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Currently learning Russian. Been half-assedly using Duolingo heavily the past few months (maybe a half hour/day?). Shit's been taking a while to stick, but I'm getting there. Had a look at memrise and it seems better.

Ordered a book (Teach Yourself Russian) which I'm waiting on. I'm hoping following a learning plan will help me start using the language a bit more outside of the duolingo app.

>struggle to learn Spanish
This jab probably would’ve worked if only my father and my 5 uncles weren’t from Spain

play dota 2, tons of ruskans.

Y-you suggested the kiss first! You're double gay.

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I don't kiss whores.

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Well I don't kiss Amerifats.
Unless you could prove me wrong. Bet you can't.

I'm learning Chinese

我爱美国人

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The leaf dies as he lives.
Irrelevant and secondary.

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Amerifat dies as he lives, fat and dumb. Too dumb to even know how to kiss.

>ahh yes, finally time to record the history of the leaf..
>they are gay
>finished
como se dice mexico is our greatest ally on the continent en espanol?

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I'm not gay! You are!

>Are you saying Europeans love their forced language classes in middle school?
European here, I hated the Swedish classes in middle school, but English classes were nice and easy and sometimes fun because I got to show off my skills to the others. :^)

The real boring classes comes with high school and German, French, Spanish.

>comes
come*

Fuck me, that's what I get for going on Jow Forums before even breakfast is made.