"Papa, why don't the Americans have free health care like every other industrialized country in the world...

"Papa, why don't the Americans have free health care like every other industrialized country in the world? If we lived in America you would need to pay 12,000 Euros for my dental exam last week."

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>Because we are not filthy commies. Better teeth are bad, than red.

>free

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>he thinks people don't realize free means payed for by taxes
only in the US do you point this out as if it's some "ha, gotcha" counter argument

This is because the whole nation does not oppose corruption.
They are also possible if everyone moves for justice.

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If free health care in Swepenis means "free health care for Abu and Nguema paid for by my taxes", then I'll pass.

dental exams are like 120 dollars, but if your not a net or fucking loser your job has to provide you with insurance

Amerimutt is right tho. Healthcare is absurd in america, but f*rst worlders think it is easy to give decent healthcare in a large scale without absurd taxes.

>Healthcare is absurd in america
Not really, although it's disgusting that we allow advertisements of prescription drugs (no other country except New Zealand does).

If you had 300 million people, you'd do same.

"Dear mohammed were are you taking me?"

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America's problem isn't in spending, they spend just as much as euros in their healthcare per capita, the problem is they are absolutely cucked by corporations and cannot negotiate drug prices, the pharma industry treats them as customers instead of patients, and it isn't about to change anytime soon with all the lobbying there.
Canada is just above them and actually controls it's pharmaceutical prices.

What does that have do with anything?

High pharmaceutical prices are mostly the result of government overregulation. A free market it is not.

Government regulation towards higher prices usually is the result of lobbyism. Why is your government so incredibly easy to lobby?

You think...

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In the United states air ambulance fall under a airline service not as a health care one, people can ne charred upwards of 70k to be helicopters to a hospital and there's nothing the patient can do about it because legally their a customer to a airline

All countries are the same.

>he thinks BMW, VW, and Siemens don't own German politicians and lobby for shit

Because Republicans don’t understand that universal healthcare means better care and much lower costs.

I still see people debating it on fb and you can show them all the information and graphs in the world and they’ll still spout shit like BUT ITS A GUBMIBT SERVICE IT JUST AINT GON WORK

Btw private insurers have 3-4x the overhead of public insurers in the US.

>I still see people debating it on fb and you can show them all the information and graphs in the world and they’ll still spout shit like BUT ITS A GUBMIBT SERVICE IT JUST AINT GON WORK
The government is not known for efficiency.

I am thinking, and I'm wondering how 10 million people with 7 million health insurance payers is any different from 300 million people with 210 million health insurance payers. The ratio remains the exact same regardless of how big your population is.

The US spends much more per capita than Europe in healthcare though. Not only it is not effective, it isn't even efficient

It doesn't because the more people you have, the thinner the amount of available wealth is spread around. If more people meant more wealth, India would be a First World country. One would think that's elementary socioeconomics.

you forget that the US has a far bigger economy than the entirety of Europe combined

By your logic the US would be 30 times poorer than Sweden.

Some states like Massachusetts have UHC.

This.
We also get worse care, with longer waits.
No argument against single-payer healthcare makes any sense.
I will say, though, healthcare is considered the biggest issue in this upcoming election in November. I believe we’ll see a single-payer system by 2020. There’s no reason not to.

And yet it’s still 3x more efficient than private insurers.

Btw if you want to learn anything about the insurance industry feel free to ask me, I’m an actuarial analyst.

>We also get worse care, with longer waits
Interesting how this wasn't a problem pre-Obama.

Wrong, dumbass. It’s always been true since the other developed nations instituted single-payer healthcare.

Most developed countries have a mix of public and private health care and usually people who can afford the private service use that instead.

I’m so sorry you have to see this brain-damaged American he thinks he knows anything about health insurance.
Please go back to Jow Forums

I pay 70 euros each year to have dental healthcare

Single payer healthcare is more effective the larger the population.

He lost me at the point where he claimed to be an actuarial analyst.

>as if anyone like that would be posting on Jow Forums

black people

>"Papa, why don't the Americans have free health care like every other industrialized country in the world? If we lived in America you would need to pay 12,000 Euros for my dental exam last week."
Shit that doesn't happen. Also, isn't dental not covered in a lot of countries even with universal healthcare.

It's almost like it's better for insurances to have a larger pool of insured people. It's almost like this is the underlying principle of how insurance operates. Crazy, right?

It's not.

As Sweden is now finding out.

Any dental work deemed medically necessary is covered by public insurance in Germany.