WTF? I hate England now!

lmao haven't seen the movie so bs but i believe it

Fun facts about the American Revolution:

*George Washington singlehandedly started a world war when he attacked a French outpost--he should have been hanged as a war criminal
*Most of the rebels were not colonists of English extraction, they were butthurt Scots and Irish
*Most Americans did not support the revolution, it was a tiny handful of fanatics
*We would have easily crushed them had the frogs not intervened for their own cunty reasons
*Colonists who'd been loyal to the Crown were terrorised and harassed, often being forced to move to Canada
*The colonists rebelled because we asked little more than a very modest tax increase to pay for the war that George Washington started

>he doesn't know that Britain consistently tried to retard the economic development of the colonies and use them as little more than a source of raw materials for the empire

>Britain
Just England really.
Why this kike has such an issue with us I don't know though.

whats your point? thats exactly how you run an empire

It was a dick move to dump the mother of his children for a Ukrainian mail order bride, but he did pay the price for it.

youtube.com/watch?v=ppGwEA6wWt4

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He is redpilled on the jq
Not a kike

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muh ancestral heritage its the same as the americans that think scotland and ireland are these mythic fantasy lands populated by celtic tribes and the english are small people that didn do nuffin

>We would have easily crushed them
Nah. The colonies were too fucking big and the infrastructure was too poor. Although the British army was a well-trained and equipped force, it was designed to fight a war in the neat, manicured villages and farmlands of northwestern Europe, not the rugged woods, hills, and swamps of the Americas.

>Mel
His dad was Jewish.

Uhhh Mel is his first name
Gibson is his surname
Not jewish

Mel is an extremely stereotypical American Jew name.
Again his dad was an actual, literal Jew.

Rubbish. In fact we even went so far as to ban the cultivation of tobacco in the British Isles to protect Virginia's tobacco industry.

>it was designed to fight a war in the neat, manicured villages and farmlands of northwestern Europe, not the rugged woods, hills, and swamps of the Americas.
Utter bollocks. Swamps and woods dont exist in europe ok m8. It was unpopular with the people they didnt see it as a war thats why no regiment in the british army or navy shows any battle honours from the revolutionary war.

The Scots painting their faces blue like Picts really made me laugh.

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Also, yeah...gunning down civilians in the Boston Massacre.

>4 people who were rioting and throwing bricks at officers
Worse happen in your country every damn day.

False flag

hes kind of a weirdo isnt he

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>bombing camera men and camera children armed with tripods in iraq

British dickbaggery continued after the end of the war.

>keeping armed forts along the Canadian border
>arming redskins to terrorize American settlers
>Britain did not send an ambassador to the US until 1794
>British ports in the Caribbean were closed to US shipping (although smugglers managed to get around this)

At the Battle of Fallen Timbers, the US Army scored a decisive victory against Indians and found they were carrying British Brown Bess muskets and a couple of Anglo-Canadians were among the dead.

Not jewish

The first victim was black.
Also
>Adams argued that if the soldiers were attacked by “a motley rabble of saucy boys, negroes and molattoes, Irish teagues and outlandish jacktars,” they could very well defend themselves. He made clear that the soldiers were endangered and they had the right to fire in self-defense and that at most they were guilty of manslaughter and not of murder.
And that Adams by the way, is John Adams - the second US president.

Seething

america won the battle but ancestry.com dna tests said we won the war

When war broke out between Britain and France in 1793, London decided to starve out French colonies in the Caribbean, most of which depended on American grain to feed themselves. Although the US was neutral, the British nonetheless seized scores of American ships and imprisoned their crews or impressed them into the Royal Navy.

In 1794, John Jay went to London to negotiate and received the promise of demilitarizing the Canadian border, although he had received this same exact promise while negotiating the Treaty of Paris 11 years earlier. The British agreed to pay compensation for captured American ships, but no promises were made about stopping impressment or seizing ships in the future.

President Washington was not happy with the treaty, but reluctantly approved it amidst the howls of butthurt Jeffersonians who wanted to ally with revolutionary France against Britain. In doing so, war between the US and Britain was postponed for 18 more years.

It was pretty uncool of you, true.

>burgers repeatedly called for the invasion and annexation of Canada
>why u have border fortified dat's not cool

This.

The eternal C*lt has been a perpetual thorn in our side.

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The Jeffersonians were massive Frenchboos and said we should help them because they helped us, and in theory the Franco-American treaty of 1778 was permanently binding. However, we were under no obligation to assist Paris unless they called on our help, which they did not do. George Washington knew that the infant nation was not ready to go to war, but American birthrates were high and he predicted that in a generation or so, the US would be strong and populous enough to challenge the powers of Europe. Until then, war must be avoided.

That aside, initial sympathies for the French Revolution turned to shock and dismay after the Terror started and anti-religious campaigns were carried out by the revolutionary government.

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>*Most of the rebels were not colonists of English extraction, they were butthurt Scots and Irish
The colonies were incredibly diverse and had a lot of different nationalities. Most either didn't give a shit about Britain or in the case of Scots and Irish, wanted to kill them. The revolution had mainly been initiated in New England and the South was far more loyalist, but this changed quickly during the British invasion of 1780 when atrocities committed by British troops turned Southerners' opinions against the mother country.

LMAOing @ ameritards

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jesus christ that's unnervingly accurate. Would be spot on if you added niggers among the irsh as both of were of low social standing and often interbred with one another. The entirety of Boston is a good example of this.

Dem blokes den do nuttin, innit?

Mel Gibson is half jewish. He knows what's up

BRITS OUT!

After I saw that I went to my town's loyalist graveyard and urinated on all the gravestones. Fucking animals

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lots of butthurt here

The patriot is 100% historically accurate, the only people who disagree are ass blasted euros.

Based

>American education

On June 22, 1807, the frigate HMS Leopard stopped the USS Chesapeake and demanded to search for deserters from the Royal Navy. London had never claimed the right to seize passengers or crew from a foreign warship and the Chesapeake's skipper refused. The Leopard fired a broadside, causing three deaths and 18 injuries. Thus compelled, the Chesapeake turned over the four suspected deserters and limped back into port.

The incident caused near universal condemnation in the US and united both the Federalists and Democratic-Republicans in their outrage. Although the British Foreign Office issued a formal apology, they refused President Jefferson's call to end impressment of sailors.

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This film is a masterpiece, the Commander Teabing Evilthorpe scenes alone put it over the top for me

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daily reminder that the war of 1812 was caused by British impressment on the high seas.

Good. The reason this happened was because burgers were bribing our sailors into deserting and joining the burger navy, during a life-and-death struggle with France when we needed every single body we could muster.

Fucking cunts.

It also ended because Napoleon was defeated and we didn't need your vessels anymore, or as you label it "victory"

Good man.

>Helpless women and children in a church
YEAH BURN EM !!!!!

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Only Americans are still susceptible to 200 year old yellow journalism propaganda

>as you label it "victory"
only septics could somehow spin getting their shite house torched to the ground in a war they started a victory, god bless

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That happened mostly because the US Navy had higher pay and was more democratic without the routine floggings and other brutal discipline in the British navy.

They were freedmen, hired to do work they know

leaftown also got burned, but you guys like to leave that out

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_York

Yeah he sure is Jewish....

>Gibson was born in Peekskill, New York, the sixth of eleven children, and the second son of Hutton Gibson, a writer, and Irish-born Anne Patricia (née Reilly, died 1990).[7][8] Gibson's paternal grandmother was opera contralto Eva Mylott (1875–1920), who was born in Australia, to Irish parents,[9] while his paternal grandfather, John Hutton Gibson, was a millionaire tobacco businessman from the American South.[10][11] One of Gibson's younger brothers, Donal, is also an actor. Gibson's first name is derived from Saint Mel, fifth-century Irish saint, and founder of Gibson's mother's native diocese, Ardagh

Fucking retard.

During the Napoleonic Wars, the bongs also blockaded our ports and blocked vital food shipments from coming to Norway, resulting in famine conditions.

>The colonists rebelled because we asked little more than a very modest tax increase to pay for the war that George Washington started
You made sense till that part.

>achieve absolutely none of your actual objectives
>your fake ones were over before the war started
>lose most battles, despite often outnumbering your opponent
>entire naval force spends bulk of the war rotting in harbours unable to break the blockade
>lose land
>U.S. under foriegn military occupation for years after the war
>capital razed

Somehow this is still considered a victory at at worst a draw in America

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>lose land
What exact land did we lose? In fact we later got the Mesabi Range in Minnesota from Britain which turned out to have huge iron ore deposits.

How are those two events equivalent in your mind?

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Ah yes, the taking of a small colonial cattle town is equal to the having your president and his eife run for his lives while the capital is razed.
York was not Toronto, it wouldn't become an important city for several more years. It was a cattle station

>Get drafted into his royal shitters navy
>You have to flog and keep people from deserting
>You have to kidnap sailors from other countries in order to keep your navy running
>Half your navy was Irish and hated your guts
r-rule the waves

As a result of the War of 1812, the Canadian border was finally demilitarized. Canadians were outraged as they thought the mother country abandoned them and left them exposed to future US attack.

Also significantly, the war ended British support for Indians which meant that US expansion west could proceed uninhibited.

>achieve absolutely none of your actual objectives
>your fake ones were over before the war started

Impressment was the overall goal, and the US congress had not heard it was repealed by the time they started the war

>lose most battles, despite often outnumbering your opponent

try again sweetie
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_New_Orleans
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_York

>navy
Its funny how the tiny US privateer force constantly harassed and straight up beat the "fearsome" British navy in so many engagements

rest is just leaf bs

They unironically show this movie in most middle schools for history class

>how is burning one capital equal to burning a house in another

>the capital was not even important!

Mesabi had nothing to do with the War of 1812 and you lost islands in the Gulf of Maine, most notably Machias Seal Island.

They did rule the waves though bud. Thats why the war of 1812 happened. You couldn't handle a bit of cheeky impressment so you chimped out and tried to invade us. Then the white house got burned down lmao.

>tiny islands literally no one gives a shit about vs an important iron mine

how is this bad

>have to take on the French who were a superpower and had one of the most formidable militaries on Earth
>be surprised that strict discipline and training was required

The patriots were possessed by the devil. It was holy fire not regular fire.

>Dude join our shitty navy lmao.

>Discipline is beating your drafted sailors half to death

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>they ruled the waves!!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lake_Erie

>Gibson was born in Peekskill, New York, the sixth of eleven children, and the second son of Hutton Gibson, a writer, and Irish-born Anne Patricia (née Reilly, died 1990).[7][8] Gibson's paternal grandmother was opera contralto Eva Mylott (1875–1920), who was born in Australia, to Irish parents,[9] while his paternal grandfather, John Hutton Gibson, was a millionaire tobacco businessman from the American South.[10][11] One of Gibson's younger brothers, Donal, is also an actor. Gibson's first name is derived from Saint Mel, fifth-century Irish saint, and founder of Gibson's mother's native diocese, Ardagh, while his second name, Colmcille,[12] is also shared by an Irish saint[13] and is the name of the Aughnacliffe parish in County Longford where Gibson's mother was born and raised. Because of his mother, Gibson retains dual Irish and American citizenship.[14] Gibson is also an Australian permanent resident

And also for his father
>Gibson was born in Peekskill, New York,[3] the son of businessman John Hutton Gibson (1884–1933) and Australian opera singer Eva Mylott (1875–1920). His maternal grandparents were Irish immigrants to Australia, while his father, from a wealthy tobacco-producing family from the American South, had Irish, English, Scottish, and Welsh ancestry.[4][5][6][7] He was raised in Chicago. His mother died when he was two years old and his father died when he was fifteen. Gibson supported his younger brother, Alexis, who died in his early twenties.[8] He graduated from high school early, at age 15, and ranked third in his class

London later came to regret ceding the Mesabi Range when they realized how much iron ore was there. Kind of like how gold was found in California a year after Mexico ceded it, which must have been a double slap in the face to them.

>The Battle of Lake Erie, sometimes called the Battle of Put-in-Bay
Even back then the russians were behind everything!

yeah...i'm sure that really kept them up at night

A FUCKING SCOONER

The Royal Navy never lost an engagement between vessels of the same class in the 200 years between the War of the Spanish Succession and WWI, except in the War of 1812.

The capital of upper Canada, the colonies were run from Montréal

Impressment not only wasn't the overall goal, it was just used an excuse to drum up popular support. Odd that the war didn't end when Congress was notified. Odd that America was still doing the same thing to British ships 60 years later. Odd that New England who suffered the worst from trade and impressment issues was against the war and threatened to secede. Odd that so many politicians and officers were far more interested in manifesting their destiny north rather than investing in a navy. Odd that the warhawks were all southern agrarians and not merchants or sailors. What strange coincidences.

You posted 2 battles out of dozens. One of which took place after the war was over

>You have to kidnap sailors from other countries in order to keep your navy running
They ostensibly claimed to only take deserters from the Royal Navy, but an American could easily be mistaken for an Englishman, so w/e. Who'd ever notice?

>still denying it

Also the Hartford convention was over federalist losing power in the government, not the war of 1812

We raised your Capitol and controlled the great lakes. The Brits lost at Baltimore, their invasion OP of NE was a failure and in New Orleans lost to hillbillies and pirates.

That mine has nothing to do with the War of 1812, which is what we are talking about.
That those tiny islands are irrelevant doesn't matter. If you declare war, get your ass handed to you, then lose any land, however insignificant, and your country is under foriegn military occupation following the war, you unequivocally lost.
Oh, and those islands control a significant portion of the fantastically lucrative Gulf of Maine lobster industry as well as several other fishing interests.

>The reason this happened was because burgers were bribing our sailors into deserting
More like they were all Irish and hated Britain and the brutal conditions they suffered. If Britain wanted these men back they should do it by a formal diplomatic process rather than committing an act of war.

>Odd that so many politicians and officers were far more interested in manifesting their destiny north rather than investing in a navy
That was mostly Thomas Jefferson's fault. The Federalists wanted a large, professional military to contend with the European powers, but Jefferson distrusted standing armies and thought they were a threat to democracy. He thought it was a "brilliant" idea to build tons of useless one-gun gunboats because they were cheaper than proper warships.

Schooners are based and were perfect for naval engagements on the great lakes. They also make the best smuggling ships because of a shallow draft and their ability to sail closer to the wind.

The mine was aquired after the war of 1812, it has everything to do with the war

also the island is literally a fucking lighthouse and is still disputed between the US and Canada
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machias_Seal_Island

>The main attack began in darkness and a heavy fog, but as the British neared the main enemy line the fog lifted, exposing them to withering artillery fire. Lt-Col. Thomas Mullins, the British commander of the 44th (East Essex) Regiment of Foot, had forgotten the ladders and fascines needed to cross the eight-foot-deep and fifteen-foot-wide canal[30]:361 and scale the earthworks, and in the dark and fog confusion descended as the British tried to close the gap. Most of the senior officers were killed or wounded, including Major General Samuel Gibbs, who was killed leading the main attack column on the right, consisting of the 4th, 21st, 44th, and 5th West India Regiments, and Colonel Rennie, who led a detachment of three light companies of the 7th, 43rd, and 93rd on the left by the river. Possibly because of Thornton's delay in crossing the river and the withering artillery fire that might hit them from across the river, the 93rd Highlanders were ordered to leave Keane's assault column advancing along the river and move across the open field to join the main force on the right of the field. Keane fell wounded as he crossed the field with the 93rd. Rennie's men managed to attack and overrun an American advance redoubt next to the river, but without reinforcements they could neither hold the position nor successfully storm the main American line behind it. Within a few minutes, the American 7th Infantry arrived, moved forward, and fired upon the British in the captured redoubt: within half an hour, Rennie and nearly all of his men were dead. In the main attack on the right, the British infantrymen either flung themselves to the ground, huddled in the canal, or were mowed down by a combination of musket fire and grapeshot from the Americans. A handful made it to the top of the parapet on the right but were either killed or captured.

>Be bong officer
>forget the ladder