My ancestors

newscientist.com/article/2180923-every-man-in-spain-was-wiped-out-4500-years-ago-by-hostile-invaders/

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yersinia_pestis#Ancient_DNA_evidence
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lusitanian_language
iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/spanish-men-were-completely-wiped-out-by-the-arrival-of-a-new-tribe-4000-years-ago/
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_Elbakyan
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_migrations
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

4500 and 1307 too.

Definitive proof that spain is white

They were spreading the plague which natives didn't have the immunity to
sound familiar?

lol

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Wasnt that the time when the early neolithic farmer arrived to spain?

Noooooo! Should build nukes.

No, because it killed the male population only. So it was violent conquest, rape and enslavement. No plague.

It was those pesky Indo-Europeans I tell you

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yersinia_pestis#Ancient_DNA_evidence

you are an indo-european so 4500 years ago most of your ancestors have lived in the black sea steppes

Where were those pleasant lads from?

the time doesn't fit

Lmao this means that instead of 25% Spanish I'm actually 25% moro

No, we arent. We are a pre-indo european people speaking a romance language. In fact , Before the roman conquest most of spain spoke Iberian, a pre-indo european language.

Don't mix linguistics and genetics.

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really helpful link, 10/10 would click again

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lusitanian_language

are you a basque or something

iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/spanish-men-were-completely-wiped-out-by-the-arrival-of-a-new-tribe-4000-years-ago/

It is a bit early for them to be in Spain

So it was Indo-Europeans according to this website

don't you know about this based kazakh girl and her conquest to bring knowledge to the poor people like you? i wonder for how many years the usa would imprison her for the spreading of knowledge if they could catch this modern genderbent prometheus

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_Elbakyan

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But nobody has immunity to that you haplomeme autist

That was one language of one specific tribe. The rest were not indo-europoors.


no, I have already told you, we are early neolithic farmers larping as indo-europeans.

Wait, I'm confused so does this mean modern Hungarians are Yamna or not?

>Natural or induced immunity is achieved by the production of specific opsonic antibodies against F1 and V antigens; antibodies against F1 and V induce phagocytosis by neutrophils.[34]
I reckon the herders had at least some degree of immunity as the plague was present in the communities before it became more lethal whereas there's no evidence of it in contemporary Western Europe

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_migrations

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Practically all of Europe is paternally.

We are mostly of early neolithic stock, whether you like it or not, Ivan. Fucking euroniggers, we aint part of your little sect.

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We were khans n shiet nigga, I ain't bullshitin, you.

Based

pit whore

Quite ironic uh

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So this includes the Basque I guess?

Beta genocide
Best day of my life

Noice, I hate white europeans

Sicilians are white

Africa

>tfw no strong foreign men to import and take over my country
oh wait

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Every? In a country were there was villages that missed the roman conquest for a couple of centuries? Where the moor invasion missed villages that discovered they got conquered when the reconquista went there?
They're just being alarmist for the sake of clicks.

we have to kick yamnshits outta our continent

You know what "the Neolithic" even stands for?

No, it lines up with Bronze Age IE migrations if anything. Everything else is too early. Later migrations are negligible.

>be mostly of Neolithic stock

lel You moron. Don't you understand the people coming in were already mixed?
>that graph
>no WHG stock in Spanish
>when every European Neolithic Farmer West of Levant was mixed with them

Yeah, right. Nice methodology they got there, assigns clades of r1b to Early Farmers, because muh migration lines. Geez.

Ancient Finns

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And this is a good thing

Sorry Pekkalainen

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I assume they are referencing this paper coming out later this year

>The genetic history of the Iberian Peninsula over the last 8000 years

>Olalde et al.

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>The Iberian Peninsula, lying on the southwestern corner of Europe, provides an excellent opportunity to assess the final impact of population movements entering the continent from the east and to study prehistoric and historic connections with North Africa. Previous studies have addressed the population history of Iberia using ancient genomes, but the final steps leading to the formation of the modern Iberian gene pool during the last 4000 years remain largely unexplored. Here we report genome-wide data from 153 ancient individuals from Iberia, more than doubling the number of available genomes from this region and providing the most comprehensive genetic transect of any region in the world during the last 8000 years. We find that Mesolithic hunter-gatherers dated to the last centuries before the arrival of farmers showed an increased genetic affinity to central European hunter-gatherers, as compared to earlier individuals.

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>During the third millennium BCE, Iberia received newcomers from south and north. The presence of one individual with a North African origin in central Iberia demonstrates early sporadic contacts across the strait of Gibraltar. Beginning ~2500 BCE, the arrival of individuals with steppe-related ancestry had a rapid and widespread genetic impact, with Bronze Age populations deriving ~40% of their autosomal ancestry and 100% of their Y-chromosomes from these migrants. During the later Iron Age, the first genome-wide data from ancient non-Indo-European speakers showed that they were similar to contemporaneous Indo-European speakers and derived most of their ancestry from the earlier Bronze Age substratum. With the exception of Basques, who remain broadly similar to Iron Age populations, during the last 2500 years Iberian populations were affected by additional gene-flow from the Central/Eastern Mediterranean region, probably associated to the Roman conquest, and from North Africa during the Moorish conquest but also in earlier periods, probably related to the Phoenician-Punic colonization of Southern Iberia.

Based, my bruthas. We have to kick the invaders out of our lands. Kill the wh*toid.

>The wh*toid polack seething

We do not have indo-euronigger ancestry, we are pure anotolian neolithic farmers. kys

Indo niggers...

Can you explain all this to a retarded nigga like myself?

well basically what you did in south America taking all the local women and spreading your male lineage sort of happened some thousand years ago in Spain as well to a similar or higher degree, by the hands of some nomadic pastoralists who likely spoke some language remotely related to Latin, German, etc...

4000 years ago a bunch of gooks from the asian steppes killed all the male population in Iberia and raped the women. They were part of the yammana culture, these were the same dudes who brought the wheel to Europe and the languages that we are currently speaking.

Ah yes *sips* jew science

None of you semitic monkeys are white espanistanis 0% white, you are a wog who french and anyobe else views as arabs.

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What about that spanish guy saying spanish come from neolithic stock and posting graphics?

He is partially right, Our maternal lineage is mostly from neolithic stock (aka anatolian neolithic farmes) but our paternal lineage is sadly 100% indo-european

Isn't it true though? Spaniards all have Haplogroup R1b, which did not exist before the Indo-Europeans invaded. Yet of course the Spanish has more Neolithic Farmer admixture since the women were still of such blood. Pretty basic stuff.

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because the replacement was greatest of the male lineages alone(on the Y chromosome), the local females contributed to keep most of the local ancestry alive, since these invaders fundamentally did not outnumber the locals
male lineage = Y chromosome, passed down from your direct male line alone, while the rest of your 22 chromosome pairs are contributed to by all your ancestors

in north Europe instead where the locals were less numerous the ancestry from these nomads as a whole is higher

thanks bro

Fuck Europe and fuck white people.

That was just around the time of the Indo-European arrival into Spain too

so we're closer to the original european peoples?

Jew science, spaniards are 99% sandmonkeys, that is all.

No, the neolithic farmers were not the original people of Europe, those were the european hunter-gatherers. But yeah It could be said that our ancestors were here before the nordcuck´s ancestors.

well "original" by neolithic standards, yes, since these pre-bronze age Iberians were also at some point peoples who had arrived from Anatolia ~8000BC more or less and mixed with local pre-neolithic peoples whose closest(but still quite far, unlike for instance Sardinians who do resemble closely these neolithic peoples) modern descendants are Baltic people and also Basques to a certain degree

Whatever you want to claim, you arent white nor related to french germans scandis or brits nor the same race.

thanks again, bros, this shit is fascinating, i'll keep monitorizing the thread

Why waste time was psuedo science?low iq goyim

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I like conspiracy theories, they're fun

Are you mostly from yammana ancestry though?

Arent*?

>tfw Lithuanian-American (born in the USSR)
>tfw Lithuanians are the most Yamna people in the world
Feels good

56%

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Yes, but unlike Spain I1 is the biggest of our three main Haplogroups.

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IIRC this happened in Britain too. Indo-Europeans basically wiped out/displaced the people that built stone henge.

a 10% of the paternal lineage from the old europeans survived in Britain though

I did not know that they brought the patriarchal society. As a funny fact, basque society is matriarcal.

During the Bronze Age a bunch of nomadic pastoralists from the Pontic-Caspian steppe expanded massively across Eurasia, either mostly replacing or mixing with local populations in genetic terms. From India to ASSpain, everyone was raped very hard by ancient Ukrainians :-DDD

This is why God is still punishing the Ukrainians today for their wickedness btw

Ah yes, linguistics, archaeology, ancient DNA, genomics and statistical inference are pseudoscience

DUMBASS

Yes

>Spaniards all have Haplogroup R1b, which did not exist before the Indo-Europeans invaded.

That is not true either. Super duper simplifiued:

>stage one: R(1b) people migrate into Europe
>stage two: neolithic farmers migrate into Europe
>stage three: R(1a) people come back from Northern Russia when megafauna dies off and migrate along the lines of the previous waves, they also have the R1b with them already since its the same root, R1a is simply more recent spin on the R chromosome
>stage four: a R1b majority population adopt R1a culture in Western Europe, one mutation of the b haplogroup becomes a Germanic marker
>stage five: retarded spaniard thinks he's separate from Northern Europe, even though its massively r1b like Spain and there's next to no morphological difference between original r1b and r1a carrier populations.

Here's the rundown: All of those people hail from roughly the same region in the extreme (considering the Ice Age) North, probably around Central Asia and came down and replaced previous populations of Middle East, Europe and parts of South Asia, Far East, Horn of Africa. This goes for the rest of Caucasians as well, basically.

R1b spread because they thrived in the climate, Farmers because they cultivated grain (duh) and R1a because they domesticated the horse and developed the chariot.

btw East Asians did an analogous journey and came down from the Baikal area. I'm guessing this is because coldness kicks your ass so hard you do well afterwards.

WE WOULD BE ON SPACE BUT DA WH*TEY CAME HERE AN DESTROY EVERYTHANG, FUCK DA WH*TEY

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