About Brexit

>leave trade union
>complain about no longer being part of trade union

>it's not your fault for leaving your trade partners, they should be punished for not giving everything away for free

But Britain is such a powerful country...No way EU can isolate them.

And who has left, donkey?

Well, the UK is leaving

Then both the Dutch and the French lose money and then they break away from Germany.
Also they will have to cover a big gap in the budget or not cover it at all. Then either they burden their own state budget even more or lower the so called and the coercion power they pull out of said Gibs diminishes further.

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>and then they break away from Germany.
So we can lose 5x more money?

>Also they will have to cover a big gap in the budget or not cover it at all
They could just slightly bump the tariffs on UK products and cover it all

How the fuck does the EU is stoping UK from breaking away?

By not giving in to any and all of their demands.

>broke up with trade union
>complains about why everyone put tarrifs on your products

Purposely rejecting any deal we put forward just to make an example of us so other countries don't follow suit.

This. Checkers was the most sensible deal made in history and the evil EU threw it all out of the window to hurt the upstanding British that only seek sovereignty

Maybe you could propose a reasonable deal

By break away i don't mean break diplomatic relations entirely but break away from their hard-line anti English stance and ignore some of their directives.

Won't work.

Why not? Half of their export goes to the EU

The Netherlands already publicly voiced our desire to not see the British leave the common market but the British rejected this. So out of political butthurt they are looking to nuke their own economy and hurt us too.
What more are we supposed to do?

Seems to me by that chart that the south has even more reason to pursue a trade deal with the English. We have to protect our own interests.

Why should we have a deal? Brexit means Brexit, you wanted out, you got out, strop trying to get in back.

>Checkers
It's Chequers mate
we leave the EU and take the severed heads of Juncker, Barnier and Tusk with us

If you want to cut trade with the North you should totally go ahead and do so.

>not see the British leave the common market
They voted leave.
>nuke their own economy and hurt us too.
Give them NI and a decent trade deal.

Just because we want to leave doesn't mean we want to stop trading with the EU

>They voted leave.
And now they are trying to manouvre back into the common market you fucking idiot

Not if they're putting tariffs on us
Also we trade more with Germany, France and the US

The British political and financial elites are absolute fucking parasites that need to be removed from existence.

>stop trading with the EU
You won't. The EU will just be free to use their souvereign rights to put tariffs on your goods, just like you now can put tariffs on European goods.

As for Britain wanting to trade with the EU, the conditions are clear and seeing how you do not want to agree to the 4 freedoms of the common market, it is clear you do not want to enter the common market.

Because then English products won't be imported at all since they'll be sold at high prices and the English will just redirect their commercial traffic. Same to what other European countries say they will do when it comes to Brexit.
Brits will suffer the most at the beginning but it will be a mess for all.

but you'll perfectly be able to trade with the EU, nobody is forbiding you to do so

No we're not you mong we just want to set up a trade deal.
Just increase your tariff

>and the English will just redirect their commercial traffic
You make it sounds so easy lol. Towards who?

>No we're not you mong we just want to set up a trade deal.
And we just want to set up a migration deal.

>perfectly be able to trade with the EU
You have to set up trade deals even under WTO rules. it's not an instant thing. We want to set it up in advance

Sorry but the multi speed Europe wasn't my idea. Don't backtrack now.

>Just increase your tariff
Why should we start a tariffs war? We already have free trade within the EU and all its trade deals

>UR BACKTRACKING!!!
I never said that. I meant that Greece should actually leave the EU as well and set up trade deals with Britain and Uganda to make your economy flourish again.

>manouvre back
errm no?

That was the DEAL you signed.
Now you don't need to become a poet.

>mfw will no longer be able to enjoy fine italian cuisine because it'll be too expensive

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>You make it sounds so easy lol.
To the contrary. Freedom is always hard to gain.
>Towards who?
the rest of the planet?

>. I meant that Greece should actually leave the EU
That's my goal too. In fact, the EU is a liability and a burden for entire geographic regions.

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ermmmmm yes. They want a FTA. Just not without the things they don't like.
Why should the EU accept any deal on British terms? An agreement takes the consent of two parties, and Britain isn't willing to meet the EU halfway.

>Dr. Oeteker
>Italian
Buy from here: eataly.net/eu_en/?_c=gb&___from_store=eu_it while you can still do it without tariffs
>the rest of the planet?
With Brexit in a few months and no trade deals set up?

>oetker
disgusting lad

You people were so close to leaving yet here you are tormenting us every day
You do realize that many deals Britain has with the world are actually deals between the EU and the world?

Why would Korea just apply a trade deal they made with the EU to Britain? Why would Japan or Chile?

Yes it's called a negotiation but the eu has no intention to negotiate anyway which is why hard Brexit is the most likely outcome. Don't see Britain giving up NI

>giving up NI
THEY WERE NEVER ASKED TO GIVE UP NI

Where do you get this nonsense from? If they want to trade with Europe they also need to continue the 4 freedoms. If they do not want to continue the 4 freedoms they will get into trouble with Ireland for breaching the Good Friday agreement.
How is the EU at fault for this? They are the ones that want to put an end to it.

Like i said it will be a mess. Why Brits wasted so much time on "negotiations" and political bickering among the torries is beyond me.

>Leaving the EU wasn't supposed to have any negative consequences.
How do you know? No one has ever left it before.

Because nobody really wanted Brexit and they don't know what to do

Having free trade with NI but not the rest of the UK basically means the NI has seceded. Hard border it is then.

We voted out and we're pursuing that. You're the ones who get extremely butthurt at people's own votes and will
>between the EU and the world?
Yes, they're still a member.
Once they're out they'll come up with new deals as an independent country. What's so strange about it.

Once again they were never asked to do this you idiot.
They are the ones pulling out of a collective free movement agreement with Ireland. Now THEY created a border between Ireland and Northern-Ireland.

At no point did the EU ever call for giving up North-Ireland. But the only way Ireland and North-Ireland are going to have no border is when
1. Britain remains part of the common market
2. A border between Britain and NI will be erected

It's a logical consequence to their own actions and can be avoided.

>We voted out and we're pursuing that. You're the ones who get extremely butthurt at people's own votes and will
You are free to leave. Just don't expect any of the EU benefits after you've left. That is what angers people because Britain believes they are still entitled to trade with the EU after leaving it.
>Once they're out they'll come up with new deals as an independent country. What's so strange about it.
Yes well good luck with that. FYI they haven't had any talks so far and they will leave in 6 months or so.

>Once they're out they'll come up with new deals as an independent country. What's so strange about it.
That there's no way they'll get that good of a deal. Plus, it may take decades for a single trade deal

>entitled to trade with the EU
We trade with members of the EU. Those members obviously want the services we offer and the things we make. The EU surely realises this.

>At no point did the EU ever call for giving up North-Ireland.
Directly no, they didn't. Indirectly yes, and it leads to a hard border solution because the eu doesn't back down.

>We trade with members of the EU. Those members obviously want the services we offer and the things we make. The EU surely realises this.
You can't trade with members of the EU in a one for one fashion
Why would they back down? The EU won't get damaged if NI secedes

They can get them from elsewhere, just like Britain can buy Russian cheese instead of French cheese.
The EU as a souvereign entity representing the collective markets of it's members is free to put tariffs on British goods and services to protect it's own domestic markets. Just like Britain can now put tariffs on all goods in the supermarket.

Britain can just rip apart the Good Friday agreement and that will be the end of that. They are now trying to save something they messed up in the first place, once again on their terms.

I would love to see them pressuring each and every member to give up or tariff to to oblivion trade with the UK.
They really didn't think about this through and through

I'm aware of that. But the EU is there to serve the members, not the other way around. Those members want to trade. Both ways.

Britain wanted the power to make their own trade deals and put tariffs on European goods that threaten their market.
How isn't Europe supposed to protect theirs?
Britain has rejected any EU plans to continue trade though.
In times like these the EU sometimes has to work against the short term interest of a few individual members such as the Netherlands for the long term gain of the collective market.

>You are free to leave.
Working on it. I'm not the one into office btw.
>Just don't expect any of the EU benefits after you've left
Don't want them, if they ever really were benefits that is.

>I'm aware of that. But the EU is there to serve the members, not the other way around. Those members want to trade. Both ways.
Yeah of course, but it's in the interest of the members to protect the internal economy of the EU. If that was the case we would have free trade with everyone, instead the EU picks carefully its FTA partners

And how do you think the French cheese manufacturers would feel if they customers decided to fuck them off and trade with cheese manufactures from another nations because of EU spite?

Is this all you've got? Crashing your entire exports in exchange of a whopping 7% of EU exports?

>Europe
Europe isn't one country. Germany won't be too affected if they cut all ties with Britain. Can you say the same about all members?

Germany is Britain's biggest trade partner.

if you isolate UK, they will just create an Anglosphere trade union.

You need us, we don't need you. The fact you're speaking our language right now is proof.

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Trump is about to leave the WTO lmao
American support to Britain will most likely be some cans of spam and alt-right tweets

>The EU won't get damaged if NI secedes
They want that part of the UK torn away so as to prove they have the power to break disobedient countries.

Canada is in a FTA with the EU
Australia and New Zeland are signing one
The US are becoming more and more isolationist and Trump just shat on May's hopes for a UK-US deal

What's left of the anglosphere?

>Britain can just rip apart the Good Friday
It will take both Britain and the EU to rip apart that agreement. EU likes to present itself as force for peace and the negation will prove otherwise.

EU isn’t involved in the Good Friday agreement

Not an argument

Yes that's why they won't be affected much.
Other countries have more to lose though
see---

He's correct.

>involved
They will be now that it will be rendered void

Are you still too dumb to see the whole point of a common market? You cannot pressure single nations into striking trade deals. You deal with the whole bunch at once, which gives gigantic negotiation powers.

Reminder that tariffs are retarded and hurt your own economy.

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It's not the EU that's pushing towards trade barriers. Demands are clear and if Britain isn't willing to meet halfway then there is no choice but to erect them.

Tell that to Trump. The EU is one of the last supporters of free trade left

It was the same when the EU sanctioned Russia. Some members including Greece weren't really up for it cause they had to redirect trade and lose revenue. The EU even had to pay compensation iirc.

Nkt really. They're scared shitless of Chinese penetratio for example.

that's nothing uncommon for cheesemakers in France actually, for some reason other countries love to put shitloads of tariffs on them

There's 28 members in the EU right now and furthermore Switzerland, Norway and Iceland too are affected by any decisions made in the common market.
You cannot keep all their interests in mind whenever making decisions. You look at what's best for all of them.

This also means that many completely insignificant nations can piggyback off of deals struck between nations that wouldn't give a crap about them otherwise.

You missed that the EU signed the biggest FTA in history like 2 months ago?