Can any american explain tipping ?

Imagine defending employers not paying their employees and trying to blame the customers for it. That's some high level corporate drone mindset shit right there.

Well that's life, you don't empathise with bus drivers,industrial workers or whatever to have a shot job badly paid, why should you with waiters? Its their own choice if they work as waiters in the first place, if you wanted to have a great salary they should have become lawyers or doctors the lazy pieces of shit

>went from 10% to 20%, or even 25% in the last few years
Fucking wew lad, even a 10% tip on a meal is an outrageous idea. Imagine tipping your mail man for putting the mail in your mailbox.

Just don't go to American restaurants then. Giving bonus is one thing, having extortion is another.

This is Jow Forums related, unlike 99% of the general threads that are literally on the board 24/7.
Fuck off if you can't handle criticism of your cancerous culture, hypocrite. This thread is on topic.

again?

>i'm being abused by my employer, pay for it or I'll spit in your food!

It's basically this.

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I will give tips only if a cute waitress blows me.

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I give tips only if waitress will make a heart on my rice omelette.

>hairdresser
We do sometimes tip our barbers, but honestly it's not very common and they probably won't get mad if you don't do it.

You only tip people who make below minimum. Delivery drivers, waitresses etc. it’s a way for restaurants to save money by paying waiters and waitresses less, and letting the customer pay the rest of their wage. While this is retarded for a big corporation like chili’s it absolutely helps small restaurants stay in business who have tiny profit margins and can’t afford to go into price wars with other restraurants. My wage at Pizza Hut in a college town was $4/hr and I made well over 12 with tips. It’s a shitty system but it works kinda.

>it absolutely helps small restaurants stay in business who have tiny profit margins and can’t afford to go into price wars with other restraurants.
I thought Americans were against socialism.

??? There is no law about tipping the government is in no way involved. You don’t have to tip lots of people don’t. The few that do make up for it

>who make below minimum
If it's possible to make below minimum, why is it called minimum?

Why not just increase prices of dishes by 15% to make sure the staff gets a fair wage, then if whoever is serving your table has gone above and beyond serving you, then you give them extra money?
Checkmate amerilards

I mean I guess In a way it’s socialism but the idea is you get to choose how much the waiters wage is, as opposed to the restaurant deciding for you

What you have described is community driven enterprise to support business as a means of protecting it against the elite capitalist class. That's socialist, user.

Truly ancap country.

Lots of restaurants try this, but the problem is why go to Dave and Son’s Burger Shack and pay 6 dollars for a burger when you can go to MegaChain Burger and get one for 4.50

So you tip only waiters in murica?

>be western
>pays tip

lmao

Well Dave and Son's will probably be better

>tipping makes up their wages rather than their bonus
Why do Americans let their businesses miss the point so hard? What a fucking awful situation to be in if you aren't a good looking woman.

Because then the business wouldn't be competitive against the business that doesn't add the tip into the bill and would be forced to become bankrupt.

No they also tip plumbers, ambulance drivers, senators, garbage men, pilots, as well as many others

they need tips because mutts as an entire nation accept a law that puts the burden of renumeration on the consumer instead of the employer

Sounds very American
I'm paying for a burger plus city tax plus county tax plus state tax plus tip and they're the same price either way at the end of the day

They also tip their gynocologists and, oddly enough, police officers following their arrest.

I got a ticket a week ago and had to put my signature on a little pen pad. It would be really funny if the pen pad a little place to put a tip amount.

Best deal is go to mcdonalds and get 6 cheeseburgers for 6€

You have to bring it back to the station on a little dish, provided by the customer of course.

>Imagine tipping your mail man
this has got to be a meme
there is no other explanation

Restaurant owners pays less taxes letting the client paying for the waiter salary (should be illegal t bh)

The most I ever tip is like 3 dollars and thats when im generous.
Most of the time I dont tip.

Some people don't have the opportunities or the ability to become lawyers or doctors. Waiters, ind workers and bus drivers are essential to the economy and aren't worth less than a lawyer or a doctor.

>have minimum wage laws
>can still pay below minimum wage

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>minimum wage isn't enough to afford nice shit
it's their choice to work a shit job, i don't care if mcdick's workers can afford to live

their hourly wage is below minimum, but if they don't make enough money through tips the owner has to make up the difference

Everytime

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>their hourly wage is below minimum, but if they don't make enough money through tips the owner has to make up the difference
This will never happen, any waitress who asks for this will be fired or treated poorly

At which point in time they will have their hours cut and if it continues be replaced by someone wjo can generate tips.

>be rural Maritimer
>no real tipping culture here
>think tipping culture is retarded
>gf gets a job as a waitress in small tourist town full of Americans
>gets $12 per hour minimum wage plus American tips
>$60-$100 per day in tips tax free
>love American tipping culture

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I say it over and over again.
The United States has capitalism in its purest form.
The interest of companies goes above all else - it goes above the interest of natural people.

There are so many examples of this, I can't even list them all.
But this tipping thing is another classic example.
Just read this post: >it’s a way for restaurants to save money by paying waiters and waitresses less, and letting the customer pay the rest of their wage. While this is retarded for a big corporation like chili’s it absolutely helps small restaurants stay in business who have tiny profit margins and can’t afford to go into price wars with other restraurants.

youtu.be/V4sbYy0WdGQ

>question directed towards americans
>eurofags answer
yikes

It's a weird form of patronage that has infected non-Anglo American countries. In the Dominican Republic for example, you'd tip when someone you know from around your neighborhood does a job for you, like your maid or your handyman. You're supposed to be a pillar of the community or something like that. I've always found it really strange that Americans would tip total strangers though, and they don't consider it "putting up a front" like other tipping cultures do. It doesn't really make sense desu

why are you making up lies? are you really that butthurt toward the USA?

This is the truth and what everyone is forgetting

People who work for tips make WAY more than they would if they got paid hourly, so win for waitstaff

Food is cheaper and waitstaff is more attentive if they work for tips, so win for the customer

And finally the business doesn't have to pay their staff, so win for business

Read any Europeans blog or watch any Europeans YouTube video about their impression of American after visiting. They ALWAYS comment on how amazing the customer service is.

Tipping is a large part of why that is.

I never tip, if these people aren't happy with their pay or working conditions then just get a different job

It started as a way to acknowledge exceptional service. Some service industry people would just go through the motions while others would go above and beyond, you would tip the great ones as a way to say "I noticed the extra work you put in and feel you deserve to get paid extra for it." Eventually that just evolved in two ways, the first is that in America exceptional customer service became the norm (always smiling, very friendly, willing to make substitutions, attentive, etc.) and tipping became expected as part of the industry.

I've been to America and I found the waiters creepy and off-putting with their forced friendliness.
One time, I walked into a restaurant, and this 40 year old busboy was cleaning tables. And without looking at me, he said hello to me while smiling really big.
I found that a little creepy so I ignored him. And he said again, in the exact tone and voice as before.

Fucking creepy. Besides, do American men really have to work as busboys in their 40s?

Imagine that, things that are vastly different from your own culture can be off-putting. You’d think there would be a phrase for that.

There are two likely possibilities, he most likely has a serious criminal past and busboy is one of the only jobs he can still get or it's possible he is the owner's son and his dad still makes him do menial tasks around the restaurant before eventually taking it over himself.

>restaurants are permitted to bypass the federal minimum wage requirements
lol

>it's possible he is the owner's son and his dad still makes him do menial tasks around the restaurant before eventually taking it over himself.
I hate when this happens, in any industry. Fucking nepotism is obnoxious and inefficient.

American service sucks shit. Who are you trying to fool?

We pay a gratuity fee of 10% right in the bill.

Oh man, you got me there.