>increasing the price of passports so no one can afford them
>by November, passports will only be available through their shitty cryptocurrency
>increasing the border police security to keep people from escaping
Officially the north Korea of the Americas
yes and i hate their accent
I'm actually surprized how free Venezuela still is. Like they have legal and functioning opposition, free elections, they can buy and keep foreign currency, they can move abroad for short term (like shopping) or long term travels and come back to Venezuela without facing any legal consequences etc.
No commie Eastern European country had such freedom.
Based Maduro
Pero están bien ricas las venecas
Democracy doesn't exist anymore in there. Their "elections" are illegitimate.
This new tactic of making a passport impossible to obtain is their new strategy to keep people chained to their country in the "legal" way, without outright making it a shitshow like North Korea or how Cuba used to be.
I hope it happened to Colombia instead and the US nukes them
what's the point of keeping people inside
Why do Chileans hate Colombia?
Why?
Because the most educated ones are packing up and leaving
To stop the mass exodus. If everyone leaves the country, it collapses.
>Democracy doesn't exist anymore in there. Their "elections" are illegitimate.
Did anyone prove that their elections were rigged? Even the opposition admits Maduro has genuine support from the people.
>This new tactic of making a passport impossible to obtain is their new strategy to keep people chained to their country in the "legal" way, without outright making it a shitshow like North Korea or how Cuba used to be.
If there's a law that "people can't leave the country" it's still the legal way, so if they don't introduce it, they do it for some reason.
Also, actually why would Maduro want people stay in Venezuela? The fewer people in the country, the less oil money you need to support them. If I were him, I'd actually kicked all people out of the country just to keep all oil money for myself (except for those who work in the oil industry ofc).
>Also, actually why would Maduro want people stay in Venezuela? The fewer people in the country, the less oil money you need to support them. If I were him, I'd actually kicked all people out of the country just to keep all oil money for myself (except for those who work in the oil industry ofc).
Btw it always work in Tropico - the less people, the easier it is to maintain peace. Why would Venezuela work in another way?
NOOO. Imagine having to take in Colombian Refugees instead of Venezuelans
I've talked with Venezuelans and they say that Venezuela is literally hell on earth, they also hate Maduro and want other countries to intervene
Only he hates it and the answer is because jelly and butthurt.
Because many Colombian delinquents have gone there to disturb their social stability and tranquility by behaving as if they were in Colombia, I guess.
less people means less jobs, less GDP, less money for the government.
Countries with small population work because their economy have been balanced around their small population and they make it work. If 30 million people suddenly moved into Uruguay with its 3 million population, the economy would go out of balance as well.
>I've talked with Venezuelans and they say that Venezuela is literally hell on earth, they also hate Maduro and want other countries to intervene
You're obviously talked to emigrants, they will always hate Maduro. I doubt you visited Petare and you asked people there.
We have a popular Polish vloger who lives in Venezuela and he visits many towns and favelas to talk to people what they think about the government and he confirms most of people, especially the poor (who make up the majority) support Maduro.
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Sure, they're brainwashed by propaganda, but still, they support him.
>less people means less jobs, less GDP, less money for the government.
Venezuela's GDP is almost entirely based on oil production, so you don't need any more people but the ones who work in the oil industry.
If there were only 2 million people in Venezuela, their oil reserves would still be the same just the money the country makes from exporting it would be divided between a smaller number of people, therefore everyone would be richer.
Gulf states are rich only because they have small population. If UAE had 50 million people, it would be per capita poor.
>tfw populatiom demands external intervention
>No one wants to do it because the last time it happened (Pinochet) is considered le evil hitler now
Kek
>many
The vast majority of criminals in Chile are still Chileans. Most foreign criminals are Bolivian.
Also, nice proxyfagging, monkey.
Jelly about what? About being one of the most corrupt and criminal shitholes in Latin America (and hence the world) where life amounts to little and corruption is defining trait of all groups of this backwater society, on top of being undeveloped outside of some neighborhoods in the biggest cities to the point it seems that many places haven't advanced to the XXth century aside from having electricity and TV? How can anyone be jelly of this shithole to begin with?
Venezuelans here told me that their peak technology is a Samsung S4. Their miunium wage is 2,80 USD. They have murder rate of 89 per 100.000 inhabitants((120 in Caracas). There's defitinely something wrong with that country, and the head of state is to blame for it
>NOOO. Imagine having to take in Colombian Refugees instead of Venezuelans
This is what true nightmares are made of!
>Venezuelans here
Exactly, that's why you're biased. You didn't go to Venezuela and didn't talk to people who didn't decide to leave (so the majority of the population).
They don't "decide" to not leave.
They don't leave because they can't, because they don't have the money to do so. They can't afford a passport, can't afford the bus to the border, can't afford to start a new life elsewhere.
>The vast majority of criminals in Chile are still Chileans.
If you count Chile as a whole, yes defitinely, but in Santiago they are notoriously a part of the criminal word(probably 10%) and they commit seriuous crimes that didn't happen here at all before(motochorros).
Now, in the north, say Antofagasta they are probably 50% of the criminals, and again, they commit crimes and act in a way that didn't happen in Chile before(kidnaps and even murders). Ask any Chilean anywhere about Colombians and they'll answer the same.
I'm not that rudeposter and I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm just stating some facts about this whole situation
>Most foreign criminals are Bolivian.
Hell no, the only crime they commit is working illegally and smuggling drugs, they are not violent whatsoever. In fact we've had Peruvian and Bolivian immigrants since always and they've always been hardworking and honest people.
by this logic, if more Mexicans could afford a trip to the US border, they'd all leave Mexico as well.
>Everyone that says something bad about Colombia is chileANO with proxy
Also, it's your fucking fault for falling with such an obvious bait.
The majority of illegal immigration to the US now comes from central americans who use Mexico as a bridge. In fact, illegal Mexican immigration peaked 20-15 years ago or so. It's almost non-existent these days because we aren't even remotely as fucked up as Venezuela is.
>Venezuela before Chavez, was a corrupt shithole with centreright wing gobernment and huge sources of oil
>Venezuela have big inequality as most of latam
>Chavez comes and promise everithing to the poor
>Oil prices raises and everything seems to work as Chavez said for the poor people
>Now every poor in venezuela is socialist
>Oil prices go down and they try to mantain their economic spending, so they go in debt
And here we are...
When will the US intervene, for God’s sake
>free elections
It's not a free election if the result has already been decided
We will free them, Bolsonaro's VP and his son already said so. Especially since they nationalized our oil refineries there
yet still poor people say their life is better than in the pre-Chavez era
what do you mean? the opposition doesn't have actual support, that's why it loses, not because someone rigs the election
yeah their life is so good they dont have to eat anymore
>How can anyone be jelly of this shithole to begin with?
Bundas and the highest number of qts per capita.
yes Colombia is the lowest of the low we live in the XVIII century and this is the most corrupt country on Earth (even if stats say it's one of the least corrupt countries in LatAm).
You try way too hard, dumb Nigro.
>he only crime they commit is working illegally and smuggling drugs
that applies for like 98% of foreigners in Chilean prisons, and yes, most of them are Bolivian:
emol.com
yeah they definitely had plenty of food before Chavez
has anyone died of starvation in Venezuela? is there any confirmed case of hunger related death? All I can find on the internet is like "a lot of people died just the government keeps it as a secret" so basically "sorry no proofs".
Come on, Venezuela is not a closed country, pretty much everyone has a smartphone there, even if it's 3-year old, it can take photos. So where are the photos of children dying from hunger?
Poor people literally eat from the trash.
Poor people in Mexico can at least afford food here and not literally starve to death.
And no, people don't legitimately support Maduro. They HAVE to "support" him or else they lose their carnets de la patria (homeland license) which grants them food and goods because they're literally starving for food.
People in the opposition don't receive any aid from the government. Literally coercing people into "supporting" them.
What if it was just maduro that is utterly retarded?
>yet still poor people say their life is better than in the pre-Chavez era
i don´t think so, i thought that the majority people say that they are chavistas but they don´t like their actual gobernment, but they think is the best option because they are a bit brainwashed
Based, f*ck congolombians
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>eat from the trash
>get all kinds of diseases
>die because there are no medicines either
Yes there are tons of cases confirming it, also all South American countries are being flooded with refugees my friend
>Poor people literally eat from the trash.
Pretty much like in the US.
Well, in the US even rich people eat from trash, it's called freeganism and they actually fight for food near the trashbins.
Wrong flag, still f*ck congolumbia, c*ba, and venez*ela.
Equator is the other Sudaca socialist shithole, not Colombia, my retard Amerifat friend.
4% is the crucial difference between developing, capitalist Mexico and collapsing, socialist Venezuela
F*ck congol*mbia, simean.
huh yeah funny how Mexico is still like Switzerland compared to an absolute shithole like Venezuela.
I can go downtown right now, withdraw $450 USD from any of my bank's ATM just by walking in and buy enough food to last me a whole year.
What can I do in Venezuela? Make an hour long queue on the ATM to withdraw maaaaybe 4 or 5 bolivars that aren't even enough to buy a miserable bag of pasta.
I'm honestly more concerned for the Dutch ABC Islands at this point.
I'm just waiting for a Civil War to finally break out, and Maduro holding the islands hostage so the world can finally have a reason to intervene.
I saw how dumb people can be when they're led by a corrupt government. They'll eat a dick just so they don't have to eat each other. Before you know it, the UN holds sanctions to separate the country into 2 different governments, get the people more riled up and pissed off at each other, and just wait until they kill each other off so they can siphon the rest of their resources.
It's a nightmare...
>withdraw $450 USD from any of my bank's ATM
probably like 80% of Mexicans have never seen such amount of money in their bank account - if they have one
>Officially the north Korea of the Americas
You aint on Nork tier until you have a glorious leader who carries around a remote control with him everywhere he goes with a single red button on it.
>free elections
kek why are you so fucking mad, Poltard?
Even a low-class job as retail store cashier pays $220 USD
That's way more than what a doctor makes in Venezuela.
>to people who didn't decide to leave
They don't leave because it's hard for the poor to just pick up their bags and move to a new country, dumbass.
it's not hard at all, look at all the rapefugees coming to yurope
I know a Chilean guy that moved to Venezuela before Chavez became president. He wants to leave and take all his family with him, he works independently because he knows that he will probably won't do a lot of money if working under an enterprise. And even like this, he is unable to pack up his stuff and leave, even if he has people outside of Venezuela willing to help him to go back to Chile. Right now is super hard to get out from there properly.
My dad is right now about to take a Venezuelan political refugee and it is still very hard to bring him here, even though the guy that he is bringing over isn't exactly poor.
A lot of people wants to leave, even those that are in favor of Maduro's government.
>legal and functioning opposition
With many of its political leaders strategically imprisoned by the government, if you want to call that "legal and functioning".
>free elections
lol.
>they can buy and keep foreign currency
With enforced exchange controls. See the disparity between black market and official rates.
>You didn't go to Venezuela and didn't talk to people who didn't decide to leave (so the majority of the population).
>Imagine being this retarded.
>yet still poor people say their life is better than in the pre-Chavez era
Source for this nonsense?
>the opposition doesn't have actual support
Then why did they garner 49.1% of the votes in 2013 and 56.2% in 2015, even with the usual irregularities? The government even cancelled the recall referendum in 2016 because they feared the outcome. You're talking out of your ass.
>has anyone died of starvation in Venezuela? is there any confirmed case of hunger related death?
Jesus dude. Why don't you just come right out and say that you're a Chavista? What are you trying to hide?
The poor and the ignorant always support their government, even if it's the reason they are miserable. It's always been like this
When is Colombia going to intervene and take back Venezuela
>Gran Colombia when
Soon.
>a polish fag defending a socialist failed state
Like pottery
>yes Colombia is the lowest of the low we live in the XVIII century and this is the most corrupt country on Earth (even if stats say it's one of the least corrupt countries in LatAm).
It's good that you finally realize it and come to terms with this sad reality instead of keeping g to live in denial of the true state of your surroundings, you spastic subhuman.
>95824335
Those are memes. You can count attractive Colombian girls you see in a day with the fingers of a single hand.
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venecas
www face book com slash josue2claves slash videos slash 10156507628024700
>no sabe ni citar un post, ni borrar el propio
Ayy el simio.
We have 2 million of these people here. Was actually talking to 2 of them on my way back home this morning. Girl hitting on me at school is unironically venezuelan. We're getting replaced fast. I hope duque closes the fucking border., this is unsustainable
>Girl hitting on me at school is unironically venezuelan
enjoy your ban.
>I think everyone is a retard with two functioning neurons in their small brain so everyone does and holds the exactly same retarded ideas that I do!
I meant university ofc
I unironically can't tell the difference until they start talking
Chileans tend to think that their country is not an utter shithole. Reality strikes him hard once he realizes that even our neighbor Panama is richer than his shithole of an indio country and Panama in turn is not that different from anything you can find here
Same but these 2 stuck out like a sore thumb as they were carrying luggage and were lost
avoiding problems
see colombia and brazil bitching about the venezuelan problem
i honestly wouldnt give a fuck about them leaving EXCEPT for the exact same reason
based polack
you can see the world exactly as it is
based polack (again)
this is the power of propaganda
>because the most educated ones are packing up and leaving
Not to Brazil, as i can see
>:^(
Neother here. Approximately 3/4 of them here work in the informal sector
The educated ones don't move to such countries. They're in Europe or other 1st world countries.