5 htp

Hey Jow Forums wondering if any anons have supplemented with 5htp for stress/anxiety/depression.
I’m in a bit of a rut that I’m trying to break out of, I don’t wanna go on SSRI’s, been there briefly and it was a shitty experience.
Before you say exercise and lift heavy, I have started already only 2 weeks in feeling a bit better.

Just feel like I am missing something but my diet is pretty good too.
Thanks

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Works great for counteracting the comedown off mdma/mda! Probably won't do anything for you unless you have some sort of serotonin deficiency, it's basically one of the building blocks for serotonin (I am not a doctor).

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this is the only supplement you need.

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Yeah I’m pretty sure my serotonin levels are fucked. I’m not a doctor either but a lot of the time I have more faith in doing my own research as they are always willing to prescribe you with anything based on whatever you tell them. No doctor would ever say “have you tried 5 htp” because it’s not made by big pharma and there’s no incentive for them. I’ll keep bumping, hopefully someone has tried it or knows somebody that has.

That shit is actually my arch nemesis. Some wild nights come to mind, but 9/10 times I will end up spewing and nearly shitting my pants. Really sneaks up on ya

Bump plz

Take phenibut instead. 3 grams on an empty stomach will knock your socks off.

Just keep it on the down low. Don't want a bunch of normies learning about it and it becoming scheduled.

5htp is fantastic, once a night for a year, don't take it for longer though because it can fuck up your brain
ssris are good for a temporary fix, but your mind and body are telling you that your life is empty
i'm glad you are exercising, that's very important
it's stupid but the lobster thing works (stand tall with your shoulders back as much as you can), helps promote serotonin production in the brain

Tried 5htp time release pills, definitely had an effect, took them before i went to sleep. sleept better and felt better.

find a good CBT therapist in your area. CBT is the most effective form of depression/anxiety treatment. dont try doing it on your own because you will probably fail and ignore the uncomfortable parts whereas the therapist will push you through it.

Thanks for suggesting that, i actually have been seeing a psych for the anxiety (it’s mostly health related) like worrying about illnesses and overthinking over-examining every sensation that is slightly abnormal.
Not sure if it’s working yet, but I’ve had it in the past and it hasn’t bothered me for years until now. I think triggered by parenthood and the fear of not being there to protect my family if something go’s wrong. It’s a fucking retarded way of thinking I know, just trying to concentrate on fitness and snap out of the cycle. It’s been literally 8 months of this shit

Thanks man, I’ll look into it for sure. I don’t think I’m super mental just sometimes I’m a glass half full type and overthink everything.

Same here, trying to quit mirzaten as its outsourcing the problem..latly ive quit/lose my job, yrying to figure it out again. Ehh good luck brothers

Thanks user, I’ll keep working with my doc and see if she can fix my wiring. I was hoping she would be a hottie to be honest, but no such luck. Is that weird?

Have a bottle of 5 htp 100mg pills right next to my bed, for me its a subtle but noticeable effect kinda like a little mood booster. Try it out, its pretty cheap but don't overdo it

Keep going with the excercise user. Lift weights at least 2x a week, cardio the same. Lay off the weed and alcohol, or if you indulge, don't get fucked up, just a pleasant high. Chisel your body, straighten and strengthen your back. Read Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. Take vitamin d and fish oil. Dose phenibut 3x a week, 1000mg. Microdose LSD (5-10ug) anywhere from once a week to once a month depending on your psyche. Listen to waves crash on a beach. Or birds chirping on a hiking trail. Be appreciative, and give other people's ill will no audience. Be at peace, but always moving forward.

I take 5-htp for a few days after doing MDMA heavily. If not, I'd probably have blown my brains out after EDC Las Vegas this past weekend.

Thanks user, I think I’ll give it a try. Citalopram has helped me once before but i didn’t want to be dependent on a drug to be happy. I got fit, worked on my hobbies and stopped worrying about shit (mostly health). It’s just come back to haunt me the last year and slipped into the same thinking pattern like everything could be worst case scenario. Then that’s caused stress, the stress caused a depression I guess and now I’m trying to climb out of it.

You have a better chance of being normal after a 4 day meth binge than from taking 5htp just once. That's all it takes for you to destroy your brain forever. Everyone who takes it who isn't already mentally retarded says the same and it doesn't ever get better, not after a month, not after 10 years. You're locked out of a good portion of your normal brain functions forever after taking it once.

legit try some probiotics. revolutionary super drug

Made me have hourly mood swings and i got suicidal

Really? How is this any different than SSRI or SNRI? If anything I would have thought it would be safer.. Please link me to some literature

im sorry but what are you talking about taking once? meth?

It only slightly works,

If you are low in serotonin it may help you.

Already take them user

>5-htp
heard it was unsafe long-term

>3g
you stupid fucks are the ones who will get this shit scheduled
literally 250mg is okay therapeutically and 500mg is more than enough
god i hate you fucking losers

>it's stupid but the lobster thing works (stand tall with your shoulders back as much as you can)
wat

>mostly fruit/vegetable diet (no dogma though)
kill yourself

Same and it made my mind run like crazy and my brain felt like it was made of water. Really fucked up.

Phenibut works for me though I rarely take it

How much were you taking?

I have never heard anybody say anything like that. Source?

Shoo shoo!

Probably works for big pharma

reading that post makes people even more retarded than a life of 5htp.

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How does 5htp make people retarded? I’ve trawled the depths of the internet and found nothing negative

Serotonin is important but only one component to feeling better.

I recommend also looking into boosting dopamine as it is crucial for motivation and focus. If dopamine levels are low, motivation & will power are diminished and we seek short term stimulation from computer games, internet browsing, sugar, drugs, alcohol, pornography, gambling/crypto.

Hormones are also really critical in how we feel. So getting a full hormone blood test is a good idea. Even if testosterone is high, it can be underutilized due to high estrogen, shbg, cortisol, etc.

Breathing - This is not just some new age hippy shit. When we don't breathe properly we activate our parasympathetic nervous system, which sends signals to the brain that we should be producing a fight-or-flight response in the body. This means more cortisol, more adrenaline, more anxiety, poor cognition. So learn to breathe properly as a priority.
Through the nose: in 4 seconds, hold 4 seconds, out 6 seconds, hold 2 seconds, repeat. Practice the fuck out of this.

Learn different methods of thinking. CBT as mentioned already can be self taught. Research mental models and practice them. Our automatic thoughts are often just mind farts and should be treated as such. Appreciate what you have more, your food, your legs, whatever. Be nice to yourself, even when you're a cunt. These are skills that have to be practiced.

Check your minerals and vitamins OP. Deficiencies in the minerals magnesium, zinc and selenium will rek you mentally. It's important to look at what they're bound to. Magnesium oxide for example is dirt cheap but is poorly absorbed. Citrates and malates tend to have nice bioavailability and chelated minerals are best of all.
Now, vitamins. I'll skip B12 because finding a vegetarian on Jow Forums is rare. Obviously vit C is god-tier as an antioxidant. Vitamin D is pretty fucking important, get that sunshine man. Look into the other B's and see if you're lacking in any.
You can also start practicing mindfulness. It does help alot imho
t. med student

Finally, fire up neurogenesis - When we're depressed it's likely that there is a cessation of neuron birth in the brain. Amino acids, a good diet, excercise, etc are all important for a healthy brain. But when we're deep in a rut, sometimes we need to jump start the brain to get neurogenesis happening again. These are the best reset buttons I've found:

DMT : A 15 minute journey has ALWAYS cleared my depression immediately and effectively. Afterwards I feel calm, happy to be alive and can start getting things back on track. Visit the dmt-nexus for information.

Ice bath - puts the body into a state of shock and pumps blood into the brain to protect it. May also increase testosterone. Afterwards I feel motivated and euphoric

Wim Hof breathing technique - goes in tandem with the ice bath. Oxygenating the blood has a pretty intense effect on the brain. Again, creates feeling of calm and euphoria. Easy to do. Try it out.

Anything that is highly novel, inspiring, exhilarating.

Just stop masturbating dude
You're draining your brain of zinc
Take Zinc supplements and stop masturbating
and start praying to God, He will help you out and assist you in straightening out your thought life and everything else.

Also try blackstrap molasses.. will replenish your body with needed minerals and give you a sustained energy levels.

Above everything just stop masturbating.

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This too. Over half the population in the western hemisphere are vitamin D deficient. And it's mislabeled as a vitamin. It's actually a hormone

I'm similar to you user. Quitted smoking weed and swedish "snus" (nicotine). 5 htp had some nice effect the first week and then it stopped. Same with CBT oil. I hate to say it but working out and being in the nature works.

>Pray to God

Worst fucking advice ever. There is no God, grow the fuck up.

Some crystal would fix you right up
5htp won't do shit
be prepared to trade charts all day and go on fap marathons

God became all conscious beings who forgot they were God. That's why you don't realize that you're God.

Truth brotha, pray hard and buy xlm harder.

You'll find Him one day, and you will feel complete like you never have before.

If you're stressed try some ashwagandha. (Ksm-66)
It works miracles

Christ is the wellspring of life.
That which many need is to have a clearer knowledge of Him;
they need to be patiently and kindly, yet earnestly, taught how the whole being may be thrown open to the healing agencies of heaven.

When the sunlight of God's love illuminates the darkened chambers of the soul, restless weariness and dissatisfaction will cease,
and satisfying joys will give vigor to the mind and health and energy to the body.

also lysed probiotics. bioray cytoflora helped me a lot

Thanks man, really good advice. How do you boost dopamine in a good way?
You’re right about the blood test I’ve only had the regular stuff looked at as far as I’m aware. My breathing is fucked I’ve noticed, it got to a point where I felt like I couldn’t get enough air into my lungs a few months ago but that’s getting better with my fitness regime. I’m certain my cortisol would have been through the roof too, probably still is. Thanks for the advice man

Thanks bro, tried this for a few months. Good for energy and motivation but kinda wore off I think. Tried Holy Basil and not sure.. I’ve ended up with bad reflux so stopped them for a while just in case they were the cause

Funnily enough I started on Zinc today. I’ll try the no fap, shouldn’t be too hard at the moment.

Faggot.

I’m too much of a pussy to try dmt in case I actually fry my brain. It sounds fucking amazing though, from what I’ve read and from listening to JRE podcast every now and then

You must be absolute shit at researching drug effects, especially if you're only finding good reviews of 5htp. These are people who do so many drugs they wouldn't know if some gay ass supplement from a poison plant wrecked their brains.

I've been alternating between 5htp and L-dope as needed. But 5htp is just serotonin precursor. (Saratonin is not transmittable across the blood brain barrier) I've put together a decent nootropic stack. Just as example I work 80hrs a week and I've still read seven books this week.
My bipolar is still interfering. When I'm up, I'm good. But when swing the other way cant stay focused. I'm going to experiment with a serotonin reuptake inhibitor.

from 12 rules for life, jordan peterson
it's become a bit of a meme 'haha lobster' but the nervous system is something of a universal structure
by promoting serotonin production through dominant body language, your social status will increase through subconscious communication with others
example: standing with eyes down against the floor, hunched down as though curled away from pain vs tall, eye contact, chest out, exposed vitals - your body and brain are far more connected than you think

Thanks man, do I need a blood test for all this? Is it a standard thing to ask for? And hormones too? I’ve wondered about thyroid issues as well, idk if it’s relevant but I feel brain foggy and all the other symptoms kinda relate.

Do me a favour and paste a link then you fucking moron

Have you always been this way, OP, or did it start after a particular event/situation?

nofap is bad for your prostate and hormones. It's just a meme for reddit cucks.

Dopamine is tricky. If you're cursed with low dopamine you will likely have one or a combination of ADHD/ADD, depression, anxiety, brain fog symptoms. People who pride themselves on being reliable and productive probably have good levels of dopamine. It helps us to focus on repetitive tasks. We can encourage dopamine production through diet, vitamins, minerals, amino acids, omega fats, meditation, etc. Finding something that inspires you positively, playing an instrument, sport, drawing, learning a subject, and engross yourself in it. Whatever you're naturally interested in will generate dopamine. Don't try to live up to other people's expectations; do what inspires you. If none of that helps, a bit of amphetamine will re-engage your dopamine receptors.

Read about hunter/farmer theory by Thom Hartman for more info.

For breathing, we need to learn to use our diaphragm. It's a giant muscle below your lungs. Most people don't engage while breathing so it becomes weak. You can strengthen it with cardio excercise or buy a respiratory trainer.

When testosterone levels are good, we naturally breathe slower and deeper. Conversely, when low, we breathe in shallow, irregular breaths.

he can't he is a faggot who makes shit up and demands it be taken as fact.

This is a common fear. But consider this.

We have not evolved to live in the environment that we currently find ourselves in. We are living in a landscape of concrete, metal and plastic. Blasted with diesel fumes, pesticides, noise, lights. Expected to sit down indoors under artificial lighting daily for long periods of time. Food has been depleted of nutrients, our systems depleted of bacteria. Constant pressure to conform to social expectations, pressure to remember and execute thousands of tasks week to week.

Could this be frying our brains? We've never known anything else. Entheogens may seem dangerous at first glance but I encourage you to research them deeply and find out for yourself that there exists far more beyond this narrow band of experience.

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."

Found our atheist neckbeardbro

Thanks for the knowledge. May I ask how you know so much about this subject? Everything you’re saying resonates with me. It’s like the more ‘awake’ we are to how the world really works can really impact our mental health. I really wish I could be a naive person and just meander through life not worrying about shit. But I know that will never happen. I feel like i know too much.

I think when I lost a family member very quickly from an unexpected illness. Like 2 weeks from DX. It really fucked me up on a subconscious level then came to the surface a few years later.
The thing is, I was perfectly fine for about 4 years and thought it wouldn’t come back (the anxiety).

5-htp is good for you, works best of you take a the enzyme tryptophan and some complex carbohydrates so that your body has what it needs to process the 5-htp into serotonin.

You can find these in various foods like cottage cheese and brown rice or wheat bread.

Thanks for all the reply’s bizbros, I’ve never seen so many good people in one thread

Thanks, i stay away from wheat but the others I can do. I’m leaning to giving 5 htp a go, only a few negative comments that seemed like made up bs so far.

I blasted like 8 of those bad boys after a week in ibiza, didn't realise it was possible to OD on them, gave myself serotonin syndrome, was sweating vomiting and passing out for like 24 hours, but felt completely fine after that.

Unless you're doing it to combat a comedown you're better off just increasing your serotonin naturally through eating healthy and exercising

Deconstruct yourself. Look in detail at the best and darkest parts of your psychology. Keep a journal write it down. Accept it all. You don't control it. You didn't choose your neurology or environment. Keep a journal for everything else: nootropics, meditation, excercise, diet, etc. Experiment, fuck up things, fail, write it down. Try again.

Look at the people around you in your life. Who's happy? Who's not? Are people happy because they're ignorant and delusional or because they're connected to something that makes their life and other people's lives better? What do the miserable people do that you can consciously not do? Do they bitch and gossip and moan? Observe them objectively.

Being neurologically different is constantly hard work. But you will get to experience life in far more depth than most people. People who appear to be successful are often sleep walking. Feeling the lows of depression and anxiety will give you insight.

University, work, family, savings, retirement, death is not success. There is something indescribable waiting to be discovered

Um excuse me sweetie, this is a Christian board.

It's more harmful than Mexican grade meth/heroin combined.

Hey, used to take 5htp for Winter depression, would usually not the booze during the dark months. Not fun. 5htp helped, took the edge off, decreased my sex drive though and upset my stomach. Would have vivid nightmares on it too and wake up with heart palpitations. It's ok for a short period of time but it just numbs you emotionally. I've switched to modafinal for study during the day, tryptophan to increase melatonin production in the evening and I take ZMA and vitamin D every day. If I have a lot of shit to do caffeine and l theanine as well. I'm chill, happy, confident and healthy now. I come off everything for 2 weeks every 3 months just to ensure I'm improving my baseline and not just a supplement junky, besides being a bit tired in the break phases I still remain upbeat. 5htp got me through a tough time but I think it can be a bit dissociative.

Hit the booze*

Nah, didn't work for me. Starting SSRIs next week probably. Nothing else works, exercise, meditation, socialising, religion, anything. Just constant fog and I generally hate everything. I have money too, my own business going well, decent investments. Doesn't matter, I'm just fucking it all up. Hoping the pills will pretty much delete my emotions. That's really all I want.

Back to plebbit fedora.

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CBD oil for you too, bud