Imagine going to prison for 30 days just for collecting rainwater

>probably collected it on a gigantic farm
>>places where land is expensive as fuck marked in green

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>a big house and yard would cost multiple millions of dollars in his country

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Whose country? Real estate prices seem to be much higher in the US than here. My town of 150k decently sized house 120m2 is like 130 000€

And smaller towns almost half of that

and your yard is how big?

>Harrington stored and used water illegally by placing dams across channels on his property and preventing the flow of water out of these artificial reservoirs without obtaining a water right permit. The height of each dam varies; two dams stand about ten feet tall and the third stands about 20 feet tall. The total amount of water collected behind these dams totals about 40 acre feet; enough to fill almost 20 Olympic-sized swimming pools. These man-made reservoirs feature boat docks, boats, and were stocked by Harrington with trout and Bluegill for recreational fishing.

The state first identified Harrington’s illegal water use more than ten years ago and initiated enforcement action to discontinue his illegal use of water. After numerous attempts by OWRD and the Watermaster to achieve voluntary compliance, the Department enlisted the assistance of the Oregon State Police in 2002. Citations were issued, and Harrington pleaded guilty to several violations. He was assessed a nominal fine and ordered to drain the three reservoirs, which he did. However, Harrington again closed the headgates in 2004 and refilled the reservoirs. As a result, OWRD and the Oregon State Police submitted reports to the Jackson County District Attorney’s Office alleging additional violations of Oregon water law. That office filed misdemeanor charges against Harrington, and in 2008 he pled guilty to one count. He was issued another fine, placed on one year probation, and was again ordered to drain the reservoirs.

Channeling and damming massive river systems and stocking them with fish is a little different than leaving a bucket outside while it's raining.

>do you have a water loicense?

This shit is only 82k. And it's the 3rd largest town in Finland
asunnot.oikotie.fi/myytavat-asunnot/turku/14771554

MOSTLY FALSE
snopes.com/fact-check/man-gets-prison-sentence-for-collecting-rainwater-on-his-own-property/

huh that's not a bad size for a yard

i mean the peoole who get in trouble for this have countless square kms but still

why did you go to all the effort to mark all of them green when you could have just marked a single country red instead

low iq post

Thx, bro

>ever doing that shit by hand
>I can't into basic image editing.
true low iq post

yes, obviously i meant by hand

in fact you should have printed out the image and colored it with a crayon

you're trying too hard m8

true low iq rebuttal

why do americans even care about yard size? you guys don't even do anything with it except mow your lawn lmao

who gives a fuck about a yard you retarded mother fucking piece of shit

god dammit what is our fascionation with YARDS, who fucking CARES it's a patch of grass why do you need a fucking yard, fuck you

Every summer.

sour grapes

Read the clickbait you post you unironic retard

did I hit a nerve? you'd probably get assraped by your communist HOA if you even tried to say, grow vegetables on your own yard.

damn sour

>he doesn't even know the areas where you actually get acres of property don't have HOAs
top kek

OP is a seething autismo. He made this thread after it was already thoroughly explained to him in another thread how the whole rainwater collection law actually works.

Grow your own food and let your cat wanders

i like city better but id like a yard

If he wants to be enterprising like that he should be allowed to. It’s the free market, you fucking commie

>dam a stream without considering the rights of the people who live downstream
>wtf why are people mad
that's different than collecting rain that runs off your roof. he's a dick and he deserves what he got

Kinda looks like a dump

>HOA
contrary to popular belief I've never seen a home owners association where I live

Doesn't the water in the stream belong to you while it's on your property?

All navigable water is public owned

See
You can't dam natural water sources

Sounds like comunism. I'm disapointed in freedomland

no, it's a public resource if it's a natural waterway. some western states are autistic about water rights for rain that falls on your land but it's not the norm

>You can't dam natural water sources

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>>>You can't dam natural water sources
without permits from local government first

may I ask why land is cheap in America?

mistä oot faggot?

Oregon is a fucking weird state. You can't even pump your own gas there.

even if so?

>ywn be a antisocial gun toting redneck living in a huge house in the bayous of Louisiana
JDIMSA

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Even in a completely free market society, hoarding a free flowing resource like water can be adequately construed as a violation of the NAP. You don’t automatically acquire ownership of everything the moment it enters your property.

If it were discovered there is a single reserve of oil underneath both your’s and another person’s property, the amount of it in which you own isn’t the total amount in which you are capable of pulling out of the ground by drilling exclusively on your property. You’d only have the rights to whatever percentage of it exists under your land at the moment of it’s discovery. If for say only 10% of the oil is actually under your property prior to any drilling, that’s how much you get. You wouldn’t be able to say, “hah, I’ll race you sucker”, simply set up your drilling equipment faster than him and harvest a lions share of the reserve as oil on his side naturally flows to your side as you deplete it.

That guy damming up channels is stealing water in every economic society. He only has a right to the natural volume of water that should persist on his property without any artificial blockage.

the rain in the land of the free is free too, that man "collecting" it with a bucket has illegally restricted its innate freedom granted by the constitution, the punishment was too lenient imo

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Why the fuck did he keep doing it after the first time?

>He only has a right to the natural volume of water that should persist on his property without any artificial blockage.

So collecting rainwater in any form is illegal? Got it.

if water flows on his territory it's not public owned, you fucking commie

You can cause a lot of damage with that much water, it's dangerous.

Soon...

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Rainwater belongs to everyone, you can't steal it all for yourself.

Someone go to Yurp "collect" all their water and take it back to USA. See how long it takes before they start REEEing

Surely he would need to pay for the water he uses

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that's why he got shafted so hard, most americans pay for the privilege of rain water and the water merchants don't want anyone thinking they can just collect water

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>Rainwater belongs to everyone, you can't steal it all for yourself
Spoken like a true communist.

in the land of the free, the local authorities mete the freedom

mene tekel upharsin, you have been weighted and deemed unworthy to collect the water

Everyone should be communist when it comes to water. Imagine if a big company came and "collected" all the rainwater. That would suck!

>muh rain water should be free!! REEEEEEEEEEE
libtards and commies are so fucking annoying...

Sounds more like soveriegn citizen crap to me. They tend to be along the "muh land belongs to everyone".

Oregon itself is libtard territory and they know it would be environmental chaos if everyone started collecting their own rainwater en masse.

>Australia
>Russia
>Canada

>>Australia
lol have fun with your desert

>>Russia
>>Canada
lol have fun with your tundra

Are you implying America isn't also vast swathes of desert and tundra?

>Bubba Jim fucks up the water table and the environment both up and down stream by illegally damning literal Olympic swimming pools worth of water so he can "go fishi'n" like the aging, rich boomer he is.
>Yuropoors proceed make memes about not being able to collect a bucket of rain water in America.

Its like not understanding the difference between going 5 miles over limit on an empty high way, vs 40 over while weaving in and out of traffic.

>Imagine going to prison for 30 days just for collecting rainwater
>TFW living in Russia where you can go prison for seven years for sharing a random pic that was shared billion times before you and poses no danger
I am laughing at your pathetic problems

You need SOME tundra and desert otherwise you are a countrylet, but Australia/Canada/Russia are all more barren than habitable

they should make an anime like that - some evil corporation builds a huge airship with rain collectors that flies and collects all the rain over some country so they can sell the rain water back to the parching population and make a lot of $$, the main hero is an ordinary teenager from a small town whose family doesn't have money to pay for the packaged rain water in the nearby shop, so he decides to try to smuggle on the rain collecting airship, when it briefly stops in their town to refill its food supplies, and to pull some switch that would empty the rain tanks of the ship and fill the dried rivers with water again...

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Never underestimate the Eurocope

GET EM'

Or a hunting rifle versus military grade weaponry.

>Guy dams a public water source for 50 Olympic swimming pools of water.
>30 day sentence
>Reeeeeee it's not fair!
Something tells me that in a real land a freedom, everyone downstream would have lynched him.

they have already fixed the hate speech law to make it an administrative offense unless one violates it for the second time in any given year, anyway even as a criminal offense in nearly all cases it led to a probation

>96044245
>"Military grade weapon"

extremely loud oof, here come the Fudds and 'pro gun' Europeans.

It was from a public source IIRC. He would have had to block a river or stream. Pretty dick behavior desu.

In the United states of America rain water collects you

>more barren than habitable

Tundra is habitable obviously but even if it weren't you're still wrong. Most of Canada, 55.6%, is forest.

My word this thread is a steaming turd of moronic irony.
>Claim/purchase private land which possesses a natural waterway
>It is recognized you own the land but you do not have rights to the waterway
>You sign a contract to not obstruct the waterway without federal approval
>obstruct the waterway
>go to jail

Surely this is the end of capitalism.

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Do you also believe EULAs are legitimate legal documents?

*proposed to fix
but since it was done to boost the popularity of putin it's already getting softer in practice and the changes will likely be set to the end of the year officially

We hire mexicans to mow our lawns here.

I believe that even toddlers have enough discretion to properly enforce a law as basic as “collecting rainwater that falls on to your roof in a barrel = ok, obstructing millions of tons of natural water flow on your property = not cool”.

There is absolutely nothing controversial about this.

Then why don't countries do this?

How many beavers are locked up in American prisons?

Do you even know what "Navigable water" means

Top kek.

Land is expensive as fuck here, senpai. Even if you exclude the inland, there is still a huge amount of territory left over and it's stupidly overpriced.

These water threads are pretty funny, desu. It brings out the classic American hypocrisy of trying to understate and deflect the vapid nature of their liberty and freedom while they desperately draw silly characterisations of other countries.
You'd think they'd learn some self awareness by now.

>Whaa, why are Americans saying two different thing aren't in fact the same.

Please refer to You wife beating, Kangaroo rapping, Ute crashing, gravity harness wearing, criminal.

This desu. This asshole deserved it, he even had a prior warning. Deserved way more than 30 days.

>This asshole deserved it, he even had a prior warning. Deserved way more than 30 days.

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I don't think the jail time was worth it, considering he is a rich boomer and will be sent to white people prison anyways.

They should have just kicked him in the dick, or in this case is wallet. Spend a month fucking up his yard with the equipment you need to remove the damns and all the other work he has done. Then hand him the bill on top of whatever other fines he needs to pay.

2/3 of those countries are more livable than the US, and yes, I'm only here as a student.

>Americans pretending to care about the environment now
Oh lawdy