/lang/ — Language learning thread

Russian - spoken in Russia, Ukraine, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Russia, and Russian speakers make up half of Latvia and a third of Estonia. Very useful for employment or picking up qts.

Also Turkmenistan speaks Russian

rate my double (you)s bros
vocaroo.com/i/s0hciL1ao2DG
words in order:
West
Wizard
Wall
Watch
Wave
walk
Window
Web
Water
Well

And Moldova too.

oops wrong link
vocaroo.com/i/s1TlrsJ8ikHZ

Btw US and Spain have around the same number of Spanish speakers and US will surpass Spain with the number of Spanish speakers in a few years

its already happened lol RIP
nypost.com/2015/06/29/us-has-more-spanish-speakers-than-spain/

Indonesian, it's spoken by 200mil+ people, it's considered one of the easiest non-asian languages to learn for westerners and Indonesia has a very interesting history,. The downsides are that native speakers are really far away and that Indonesia has a fairly small economy for it's size so it won't provide as many economic oppurtunities as the languages that swissbro recommends.

What is Anki?

Malay is basically the same as Indonesian so he could have economic opportunities in Malaysia. And SEA girls love white guys and there spam European guys on Interpals so he'd get a lot of pussy if he learned it.

Its also spoken in Brunei and 14% of Singapore which are pretty wealthy countries

It's funny how every time I read that as Aniki and feel the urge to listen to Gachi again.
It's a pretty unhealthy habit.

I'm pretty bored, why not Polish?

Pros:
Polish girls are qt
Poland is part of EU so you'd have much more chances to practice Polish than let's say Russian, and Poland is near Denmark
Nice cities like Krakow, Gdansk, Wroclaw, Poznan, etc
Poles are willing to speak to you in Polish and help you, unlike Swedish/Norwegian/Dutch where they switch to English as soon as they hear you struggling
Cons:
Much more difficult than a Germanic language, many foreign words that you cannot guess the meaning of if you have no background in Slavic languages
Not as many learning resources

I've done research before and polish grammar seems extremely inconsistent and obnoxious
Aren't polish girls completely materialistic psychocunts? Not saying out women are particular great though

>i've got years to pass
don't we all

>polish grammar seems extremely inconsistent and obnoxious
That's part of the ride friend

youtube.com/watch?v=JwYX52BP2Sk

Its true sadly but they are good for one night stands.

>grammar seems extremely inconsistent and obnoxious
Name one language that isn't German or Chinese were this doesn't happen

Listened to this song so much during my teen days that now I feel like puking as soon as I hear the first minute

>now I feel like puking as soon as I hear the first minute
It's a shame how some things end up like that. I definitely have some songs like that.

I was speaking by Slavic language standards, I ended up picking up Russian because it's relatively consistent (fuck word stress though) of the useful ones

>german
>consistent
oh no no no no

It's extremely consistent

>tons of irregular verbs
>gender system completely random
>"""""""""""regular"""""""""""

I can't speak for Russian but i'm at roughly B1 with Polish and Serbo-croatian and i can't say one's grammar is significantly more annoying than the other

Flash card app. I set myself a daily revision schedule, so it forces me to revise or else it'll pile up for the next day. also not clearing my anki causes me OCD so i have to do it
i take advantage of that and put grammar rules/expressions/vocabulary in french and it really helps me out
pic related just started bescherelle grammar pour vouz

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You can say that about most languages

> about most languages
*most indo-european languages

Either way it has far less arbitrary memorization than most languages, I didn't say it had none

>I ended up picking up Russian because it's relatively consistent
how is Russian more "consistent" than Polish?

what about memrise?

Far less irregular verbs and exceptions, though this is just what I read. Cyrillic was also neat at first but now I'm sick of it

haven't tried anything else honestly, i'm just really familiar with anki as I use it for a lot of other things in my life. it's also customizable as fuck, can use JS and latex on it and shit

dont you get used to the writing system the more you study it? i heard bulgarian is the easiest slavic language because it doesn't have cases

It still slows things down for a while. What I really hate is letters like B, P and H which are/look similar to English letters but have completely different sounds

>at least 3 months until Gomorrah S4 is out
LET ME IMMERSE MYSELF YOU ITALIAN BASTARDI

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can anyone recommend some literal Chinese cartoons? I've been enjoying the mandarin dub of shin chan, I'm looking for stuff at a similar level

Similarly the ones that look nothing like English letters such as Ч, Д, and Ж are nice and quick to read except voicing/devoicing pairs but that's a whole separate tangent to ramble about

>Memorizing the meaning of individual words... is pretty much pointless. If you want actual fluency, you need to see a word in as many example sentences as possible.
Bilingual bros is this true in your experience?

Full adjectives are 100% consistent in Russian, and we also have a smaller nomenclature of noun endings, but that's it. Our verbs have the same irregularities as Polish ones + one has to remember the accent paradigm for every non-trivial verb (it's a problem for all changeable parts of speech except for full adjectives), the formation of comparative and superlative degrees is a total mess, and pretty much every neuter noun uses its own way to derive a diminutive. I don't understand why people believe that the Russian grammar is easier.

Not entirely true but has some basis to it. in terms of time invested vs vocabulary gained, it's very inefficient. you'll need to spend thousands of hours browsing forums and reading books to get the same vocabulary as you would from a 10 minutes a day anki revision for a year.

most people saying this say this regarding how they learned english, when they spent literal tens of thousands of hours practicing english and thinking in retrospect "yeah im pretty good in english so this is the way" when they ignore just how much time they spent practicing it

Please don't dissuade me from continuing Russian, it's basically the only slav language I want to learn

so yeah, it's a very shitty method in my opinion if you spend a limited time immersing yourself. sure, if you spend 8 hours a day playing video games and reading books and forums and chans for 10 years, you'll get pretty familiar with english.
If you'll spend 10 minutes a day reading /deutsch/ and another 30 watching a german episode of something, you'll barely progress

>napoletano

better luck trying to understand finnish

no it isn't

yes this came up some time before, maybe I'm a bad example since I work in IT and we are more prone to do stuff like that
I can understand your point regarding my invitation though, i feel like they've been slacking a lot lately when it comes to inburgering en naturalisatie

Been doing some more research, generally what I'm seeing (both from Russian and Polish natives) is Russian is easier except for Cyrillic and random word stress

>easier
Are you learning languages solely to up your count? If not, go for whichever one you have more passion for.

Russian is Czech lite

I picked up Russian because I wanted something difficult and consistent as a third language (fourth if you count A1 level Swedish but I don't). Difficulty aside I do like usefulness and ubiquity because it gives me chances to use it which also was a huge selling point

Speaking of Russian WHAT THE FUCK IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN Ш AND Щ I KEEP GETTING REALLY CONFUSING EXPLANATIONS

>learning two langs for the price of one
Sounds good to me.

Nah, m8. I was just arguing against comments like this:
Even if Russian was the most difficult language on Earth, it would still be way more worth learning than any other Slavic language.

always depends on the learning goal, so that's not inherently true

frustrated Russian learner burger is one of my favorite patrons of /lang/
never stop fighting the good fight user, you do us all proud and I love you :3

I've just decided that music is a language and I feel like this video is somewhat related and I really like the guy and I thought it was really interesting how mixing cultures and languages can give birth to beautiful stuff like flamenco
youtube.com/watch?v=XYgTkW4WK80
perhaps a bit on the /mu/ side but if you're so inclined the guy has some very insightful stuff

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I'm also the one who keeps putting (embed)s in the OP :^)

user, I...
...I don't know what to feel

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Join the dark side, it's more fun here

Muh heritage/immigration/romances may create exceptions, yes.

I will never learn Russian

I meant the embed thing. Russian is fun but unless you really like learning it'll end up being a headache. Speaking of which I have a headache and these free drinks at my hotel aren't helping

Enjoyed that video, thanks buddy

what would your selling point be? "you can speak to other russian people and read russian literature"
like do you just assume that people want that? lol

that doesnt mean shit, we are talking about consistency with rules, germans never made up a rules about gender so by definition it isnt inconsistent, and every european lang has a irregular verbs mario, stop being a fucking brainlet and learn german

basado en rojopillado

Can someone help me with using Anki? I'm not really sure how it works and I didn't now you could download specific settings for it. I'm learning German by the way

Unironically started using Aderall and it helps so much, I can sit for the whole day studying and being focused and I enjoy it so much
I use Memrise which is basically the same concept of using spaced repetition and more user friendly

I have an Adderall rx from when I was I school and it is pretty based as long as you end up focusing on the right things

This. Aderall raised my grades exponentially. I went from almost dropping out of uni to having top scores.

Easy
>He doesn't like the gift.
>The soup is too hot.
>Did you take my purse?
>Please bring the package.
>They saw him at the library.

Medium
>Please be honest, I don't like lies.
>I woke up so thirsty in the middle of the night.
>I'm so stressed about my exams, I can't focus on anything.
>Don't be shy, we are friendly.
>I'm going back to the village I grew up in.

Harder
>Please don't cry, I don't want to make you sad, it's my fault things are over.
>I saw someone peeping though the bushes, let's get out of here as fast as we can.
>My guess is that after the last time, Peter is definitely going to avoid that place.
>So we'll take some more blood today, and then I'll see when we can reschedule you for a MRI scan.
>When you get older your relationships get a lot more complicated, it's no longer care free teenage infatuation.

> Tento dar sa mu nepáči.
> Polievka je príliš horúca.
> Vzali si moje peňaženky?
> Prosím, dajte balík.
> Videli ho v knižnici.
> Prosím, buďte úprimní, nemám rád lži.
> Prebudila som sa tak smädná uprostred noci.
> Moja skúška mi je taká, že sa na moju skúšku nemôžem sústrediť.
> Nebuďte plachý, sme priateľskí.
> Vrátim sa do dediny, v ktorej som vyrastal.

簡単
>彼は贈り物が好きではありません。
>スープが熱すぎる。
>私の財布を持ってきましたか?
>パッケージを持って来てください。
>彼らは図書館で彼を見た。

中
>正直言って、私は嘘が好きではありません。
>夜中に喉が渇きました。
>私は私の試験について非常に強調している、私は何にも集中できない。
>恥ずかしがり屋ではない、私たちは友好的です。
>私は育った村に戻ります。

もっと強く
>泣かないでください、私はあなたが悲しいようにしたくありません、それは私の欠点が終わったことです。
>私は茂みを覗いている人を見ましたが、できるだけ早くここから出ましょう。
>私の推測は、最後の時間の後、ピーターは間違いなくその場所を避けることです。
>今日はさらに血を服用し、いつMRIスキャンのスケジュールを変更できるかを見ていきます。
>あなたの年齢が上がると、あなたの関係はもっと複雑になり、もはや気遣いがなくなります。

მას არ მოსწონს საჩუქარი.
> სუპი ძალიან ცხელია.
> გაატარე ჩემი ჩანთა?
> გთხოვთ მოიყვანეთ პაკეტი.
ისინი ბიბლიოთეკაში ნახავენ.

საშუალო
> გულახდილად გითხრათ, სიცრუე არ მომწონს.
მე ღამით შუაღამისას მწყემსვილე.
> ასე რომ, ჩემი გამოცდების შესახებ ხაზგასმით აღვნიშნავ, არაფრის ყურადღება გამახვიე.
> არ იყოს მორცხვი, ჩვენ მეგობრული ვართ.
> მე დავბრუნდები სოფელში.

უფრო რთული
> გთხოვთ არ ტირილი, მე არ მინდა სამწუხარო, ეს ჩემი ბრალია დასრულდა.
> დავინახე, რომ ვინმე ბუჩქებს იჩენს, მოდი აქედან სწრაფად გავიტანოთ.
> ჩემი ვარაუდი არის, რომ უკანასკნელ დროს, პიტერ აუცილებლად აპირებს თავიდან აიცილოს ეს ადგილი.

r8 h8 masturb8
> તે ભેટ ગમતું નથી.
> સૂપ ખૂબ ગરમ છે.
> તમે મારો પર્સ લીધો?
> કૃપા કરીને પેકેજ લાવો.
> તેઓએ તેને પુસ્તકાલયમાં જોયો.
> કૃપા કરીને પ્રામાણિક રહો, મને ખોટા પસંદ નથી.
> હું રાત્રે મધ્યમાં ખૂબ તરસ્યો જાગ્યો.
> હું મારી પરીક્ષાઓ વિશે ખૂબ જ ભાર મૂકે છે, હું કંઈપણ પર ધ્યાન કેન્દ્રિત કરી શકતો નથી.
> શરમાશો નહીં, અમે મૈત્રીપૂર્ણ છીએ.
> હું જે ગામડામાં થયો તે ગામમાં પાછો જાઉં છું.
> કૃપા કરીને રડશો નહીં, હું તમને દુઃખી કરવા નથી માંગતો, તે મારા દોષની બાબત છે.

man how the fuck you learned Georgian? i moved to canada from india when i was a kid so thats how i know Gujarati

Gr8 b8 m8. I rel8, str8 appreci8, and congratul8. I r8 this b8 an 8/8. Plz no h8., I'm str8 ir8. Cre8 more, can't w8. We should convers8, I won't ber8, my number is 88888888, ask for N8. No calls l8 or out of st8. If on a d8, ask K8 to loc8. Even with a full pl8, I always have time to communic8 so don't hesit8

My personal 8/8 m8 pasta

>Please don't cry, I don't want to make you sad, it's my fault things are over.

Bitte weine nicht , ich will dich nicht traurig machen, es ist meine schuld dass es vorbei ist

>I saw someone peeping though the bushes, let's get out of here as fast as we can.

Ich habe jemanden durch die Buesche bemerkt dass auf uns spioniert. Lass uns so bald wie moeglich gehen.

>My guess is that after the last time, Peter is definitely going to avoid that place.

Meine vermutung ist, nachdem letzen Mal, Peter wird bestimmt diesen ort meiden.

>So we'll take some more blood today, and then I'll see when we can reschedule you for a MRI scan.

Also, nehmen wir heute noch mehr Blut, dann sehe ich wann wir ihre MRT-Untersuchung
verschieben koennen.

>When you get older your relationships get a lot more complicated, it's no longer care free teenage infatuation.

Wenn du aelter wirst, deine Beziehungen werden immer komplizierer, es ist nicht mehr sorglose jugendliche Verliebtheit

cheated and looked up MRI scan and infatuation.

please rate and kek

సులువు
> అతను గిఫ్ట్ ఇష్టం లేదు.
> సూప్ చాలా వేడిగా ఉంటుంది.
> మీరు నా పర్స్ తీసుకున్నారా?
> దయచేసి ప్యాకేజీని తీసుకురండి.
వారు లైబ్రరీలో ఆయనను చూశారు.

మీడియం
> దయచేసి నిజాయితీగా ఉండండి, అసత్యాలు నాకు ఇష్టం లేదు.
> నేను రాత్రి మధ్యలో చాలా దాహం వేసింది.
నేను నా పరీక్షల గురించి నొక్కిచెప్పాను, నేను ఏదైనా దృష్టి పెట్టలేను.
> సిగ్గుపడకండి, మేము స్నేహపూర్వకంగా ఉంటాము.
> నేను పెరిగిన గ్రామానికి తిరిగి వెళుతున్నాను

కష్టం
> దయచేసి ఏడ్వవద్దు, నేను మిమ్మల్ని విచారం కలిగించకూడదు, ఇది నా తప్పు విషయాలు.
> పొదలు అయినప్పటికీ ఎవరో చూస్తున్నారని నేను చూశాను.
> చివరిసారిగా పీటర్ తప్పనిసరిగా ఆ ప్రదేశం నివారించడానికి వెళ్తున్నాడని నా అభిప్రాయం.

i've got years to pass is a literal translation of a common german phrase "Ich habe Jahre zu vergehen" which is understood to mean "I'm going to jail"

how did you get to C1 German and how long did it take?

> لا يحب الهدية.
> الحساء حار جدا.
> هل أخذت حقيبتي؟
> يرجى إحضار الحزمة.
> رأوه في المكتبة.
> يرجى أن تكون صادقا ، أنا لا أحب الكذب.
> استيقظت من العطش في منتصف الليل.
> أنا متوتر للغاية بشأن امتحاناتي ، لا أستطيع التركيز على أي شيء.
> لا تخجل ، نحن ودودون.
> سأعود إلى القرية التي نشأت فيها.
> من فضلك لا تبكي ، أنا لا أريد أن أجعلك حزينًا ، لقد انتهت خطئي.
> رأيت شخصًا يختبئ بين الشجيرات ، لنخرج من هنا بأسرع ما يمكن.
> تخميني هو أنه بعد المرة الأخيرة ، سيقوم بيتر بالتأكيد بتجنب ذلك المكان.
> إذن ، سوف نأخذ المزيد من الدم اليوم ، ثم سأرى متى يمكننا إعادة جدولة فحص التصوير بالرنين المغناطيسي.
> عندما تتقدم في العمر ، تصبح العلاقات أكثر تعقيدًا ، ولا يعني ذلك حرصًا على الاهتمام في سن المراهقة.

in total 3 years la.

2015 took 2 german classes but could barely string a short sentence together , met new german friends and was practicing speaking german more now

took a whole year break from german till summer 2016
(this is when I found the key to learn german to an advance level)

• All I did was get a german textbook like "wie gehts" or Treffpunk , read 1 chapter a day , do all writing exercises for grammar (as boring as it sounds it helps you speak it correctly) .
• I learned all the vocabulary in each chapter

• Watched German videos on youtube, wrote down phrases or words I didnt know

• Used online practice exams for the B1 or B2 exams and practiced hearing and reading.

• Talk at least 2 times a week to a german speaker (I talki or interpals can help)
• when I got a more advance level started watching german news and tried to understand the main part of it

hope that helps you guys

English fucks with your brain in terms of word order

If you want something similar to German then go with Greek. Articles, cases, and three genders.

If you want to be really crazy then go with a non-IE language.

French is good for many reasons, but spanish is good too.

>articles, cases, and three genders
so like most indo-european languages except for english lol

>"C1"
>moeglich instead of mö

KYS.

guess it's just the keyboard, however, one could just use the American International Layout, this way you can create ö by pressing " + o.

just do like most people ITT and learn an irrelevant meme language

For example, why not learn Sardinian? Do it, faggot.

Except for Romance Languages, and Slavic Languages, Farsi, and most Germanic languages.

But yeah if you exclude like 80% of them then 20% will have articles, cases, and 3 genders :^)

This, I speak English and Afrikaans natively and I've always wanted to learn a 3rd language but have no idea what to pick