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> いずれ裏切ることは分かっていた それがこんな形になろうとはな I've been told the latter half of this is short for それがこんな形になろうとは思わなかった, but how does that work? Is it like a stock sentence/is there a similar example that happens in english?
If I recall, you didn't want the job anyway? Anyway, more time for NEETing and NIHONing
Brody Harris
You're probably talking about the job from a few weeks ago since I haven't seen you around that much. I had an offer in Arundel recently to be a pub chef but they don't need anyone anymore. They might contact me again in March so now I'm back to job hunting again.
Sebastian Stewart
who said anything about japanese? its orthogonal
to be frank im still toiling through jordens beginning japanese
Jacob Ward
You'll learn all this bullshit you came up with orthogonally by learning some vocabulary.
Luis Morgan
>pub chef there are worse jobs in life, but not many
Oliver Price
imo (as an expert ofc) you cant effectively learn in context both kanji and vocab. so i pick learning spoken language in context and kanji on itself
Brayden Turner
Unemployment being one of them
Jackson Perry
surprisingly kanji is super easy which i didn't except
spooky asian symbols i guess
Tyler Davis
>you cant effectively learn in context both kanji and vocab
i wake up, roll over, light a cigarette. once thats done i brew some coffee and drink a cup. i meditate and do anki. then i eat a big bowl of oatmeal w/ cottage cheese. i brew up a second pot and then start studying jorden's text. then i guess just freeform it for rest of the day.
Matthew Rodriguez
are you suggesting chinese characters are somehow orthogonal to the japanese language? fuck.damn
Cameron Parker
Did it never occur to you that a book from 30 years ago might be outdated in its teaching methods and worse than what's commonly available right now
Easton Rogers
Going to leave this here in case anyone finds some use out of it. itazuraneko.neocities.org/horon/keigo/shishinmain.html
A new subsection has been added to the 補論 section of the site, this subsection in particular for 敬語. The above is a guide for the basic ins and outs of different types/levels of 敬語 usage. There is also some stuff on business Japanese that may be added to the main 敬語 page later on.
Back, of course. You gotta be able to recall pronunciation, and that includes the correct accent. (I for one don't fail a card if I get pitch accent wrong, but I pay attention to it and it has been improving gradually.)
Kayden Martin
I do usually enjoy it once I get started, it's just that getting started is hard when I have other things I need to do
Luis Martinez
He's lying
Henry Green
Who gives a shit about pitch accent? You're always going to make mistakes and be an obvious gaijin anyways. Maybe if you've been studying for 25 years and know a native level of vocabulary, but while you're doing 6k?????
If you're not speaking yet, it's pretty much a non-issue. Just do your best to make the same sound as what you here in your flash cards.
Austin Cook
DJT doing things backwards as usual.
Daniel Hall
There is no harm in trying to adjust to pronunciation since it's more of a habit thing than actively learning it. I feel it won't hinder your memorization at all.
it's not necessary though, you'll pick up pronunciation from listening, but as already said, you'll always sound like a gaijin anyway
Easton Rodriguez
被せ
Ian Brown
Okay, so, I understand that I should learn hiragana first, but I don't know what is the correct mount of consecutive repetitions per letter.
One letter per day? Over and Over again through all the day? One letter every 5 minutes and starting again when I make all the words? 30 repetitions per letter? What is the best schedule?
just learn that shit it's not rocket science and it's not that much that is requires some special method. learn to recognize them fairly confidently and then just go and try to read them every single time you encounter them to get some reading practice. dont spend more than 2 weeks max to go over them in fact it shouldn't even take a week
Benjamin Morales
i didn't ask any special method, just how to do better the basic task I don't understand this, can you help me?
Cameron Robinson
If you can't even figure that out by yourself, you might just be retarded.