Found out I'm a neet loser because I've had adhd all this time

>I don't have ADHD therefore it doesn't exist

Yeah, I was thinking of trying some stronger racetam. But what's the point if I build tolerance to it as well. There are only so many racetams to try. Maybe if I take a significant break from piracetam it might work again.. wishful thinking I suppose. I want to feel again like the first time on piracetam. Or hell, even the first month.

>tfw found out im a virgin loser because i literally never show myself outside the house or work

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I suspect that I have at least some mild ADD. however, doctors in my country don't believe that you can have ADD if you finish high school or go to college. fuck me.

Let me guess. Central/Eastern Europe?

>doctors in my country don't believe that you can have ADD if you finish high school or go to college
Why? Does having diagnosed ADD grant you gibs?

correct

I would have access to medication that could help me

Do you live in bongland?

I'm not a NEET but I suspect I might have problems with this, I've just never thought to talk to a doctor about it. My parents always told me that ADHD wasn't real. I don't believe that now but at the time when I lived with them, I did.

I've always had trouble making myself focus and get distracted easily. I feel like things are more difficult for me at work or at school because of it, but I always seem to manage to make things work. I don't really know if this is actually ADD or ADHD or whatever or if this is just how things like that go. I think where it really bothers me is that outside of work or school I can never seem to make myself sit and do anything for that long, even things I enjoy.

My mother even recently told me that as a child, she was diagnosed with it, but her parents refused to seek treatment for it because they thought she was just lazy. She talks about this as if they did the right thing. It also wouldn't surprise me if my father had problems with it, but I haven't seen him since I was a kid.

I guess at this point, I think what difference does it make. I've lived my entire life this way and am 25 now, what could possibly change that much. I think it's not just possible but very likely that I have some mental health issue or something, especially given what I know about my parents now, but I just don't really see what can be done about it.

Same problem. Adderall is expensive so they don't like to prescribe it. Best to pay 300 for a private diagnosis.

I like to make excuses for being a failure too, but im at least honest with myself.

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I can sit on Jow Forums for hours and F5'd crypto pages for 3 months straight. I found school boring though and found doing work difficult, because I'd rather play vidya.

I have ADHD right?

Medication is temporary solution, fren. If you need short-term boosts, it'll help. But eventually you'll build tolerance. We're fucked until some brain-computer interface is developed.

You need Strattera or Adderall.

ADHD is just a PC term for mentally retarded it's not an actual thing. Take your daily amphetamines to speed your brain up and then maybe you can keep up with the rest of us lil guy.

>Jow Forums for hours
>found school boring
probably

that is 90% of people. adhd is not real

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>you'll build tolerance
The amphetamines can also fuck you up long-term.

>live a shit lifestyle
>soda
>junk food
>instant gratification social media
>Jow Forums
>vidya
>no sleep pattern
>rarely go outside
>no responsibilities
>even the passage of time stops mattering

"oh no I can't focus on one thing must have a disease"

>Jow Forums
Unironically the best thing that could have happened to me. If not for Jow Forums, I'd be broke and depressed.

Yeah, bro. Also vaccines are fake and cause autism, right?
Really, spare us of your shitty opinions based on thin air

It was all placebo, you're not even supposed to feel anything let alone develop tolerance.

Sure thing, buddy.

You build tolerance to some aspects, not others. This is why people (diagnosed with ADHD who actually have it) who take amphetamines their entire life can function (i.e, the ones that actually need it to fit in with society) well on it indefinitely, but no you're not going to get euphoria or walk around like the limitless guy forever.

well. I'm interested either way. Got a story to tell?

I could describe the effects, but you'd chalk it up to placebo, so what's the point?

Because it's interesting.

27 yr old ADHDer
worst fucking mental illness in existence, you could have an iq of 500 and it wouldnt mean shit beacuse adhd wouldnt let you make use of it anyway and to top it off half the world doesnt even believe it exists so just because you dont have potatoe face everyone expects you to behave and perform normally despite the fact that our frontal lobe is non existant

>you're not even supposed to feel anything let alone develop tolerance
This is arrogant as fuck, by the way. Racetams are not well understood and very little research has been done on their effects in relation to cognitive performance. In the absence of hard evidence, dozens, maybe hundreds of anecdotes you can look up support my case.
Alright, I'll list the effects I experienced.
>clear, focused mind, "brighter" perception of colours - mostly the first several weeks
>vivid dreams (virtually every time I took it before sleep, whereas normally I dream/remember that I dreamt perhaps once a month), lessened tolerance of caffeine/alcohol, better mood, reduced anxiety - lasted up to 3 months, lessening over time

anyone here tried strattera?

I was taking 2.4-3.2g daily. Nowadays I can take a single dose of 4.8g or more, and wonder if I feel anything at all.

It's been a while since I've read up on nootropics, I'm open to being wrong. It looks like your experience is similar to what I (vaguelly) recall heard about.

So did it actually help you with anything in school / work?

Don't. Based on what I've heard from other people's experiences I would never touch this stuff. Just take adderall.

However, you should probably get your shit together and already have good sleeping habits, active workout habits (Cardio is important too), and a decent worth ethic despite having a shitty attention span (work ethic measured in effort, not necessarily results). Starting off the right foot makes a HUGE difference in your early experiences if you get medicated. Ideally you'd get your shit together and be functional without it.

I was doing an internship at that time. 5 days a week, 9-5. I fucking hated every single day of it. I normally have a mild social anxiety and am generally an introverted person. All those fake people, me constantly having to pretend to be a normalfag, had to write bullshit-tier web content. Piracetam helped me cope with all that bullshit. I stopped feeling social anxiety, was genuinely outgoing and confident.

Nope vaccines are real adhd is just a medical term for stupid. Let me guess you're just a "bad test taker" kek

I was on it for a year while i waited for my ritalin prescription, it was alright, better than nothing. Made me super horny though, and drinking alcohol made me black out on park benches half of the time i was out with friends. Drinking with strattera is worse than ritalin IMO

Bro, ADHD is a fucking gift, i owe my fortune to it, learn how to use it

>Stupid

yeah, nah, Einstein most likely had ADHD breh. It's just a difference in cognition. Many famous inventors and big leaders have ADHD, google it fren

IMO ADHD lowers our potential iq by like 30 points

I'll trade you for Bipolar type I

aniracetam worked best for me, be sure to get a good choline source to take alongside it though, or else you will have bad headaches. Get centroxine or whatever the fuck it's called, cant remember the name atm, but it's the "better" DMA

have you tried medication and meditation?
Worked wonders for me, quit drugs and bad habits, now i am a rich 21 year old student 1 year away for bachellor.
Everyone in my life thought i was a slob and wouldnt amount to shit, now they look up to me and i have an investment fund for 10 people and have made many of them millionares this last year

1 year away from my bachellor's degree**

aniracetam is bae for social anxiety

All racetams make me irritable, one time i even slapped my wife's son i was so angry.

I'll look for it, thanks. Have only seen piracetam in online pharmacies so far. I'm also a bit wary of blowing through another racetam by building tolerance. I currently don't really need it, but that may change in the future. Would rather keep the option for when I need it, assuming the tolerance is for life.

jeez, he's probably gonna go all Dylan Klebold from that in 12 years time

Sounds like you need some seratonin or oxytocin breh

got a pdf of this?

rip

pls no ;_:

>be me
>want some Ritalin
>read the DSM-5
>study how they diagnose ADHD
>go to a therapist
>fake symptoms
>convince them I might have ADHD
>get tested
>intentioally perform like a person with ADHD
>get prescription

It's super easy to fake the tests desu.

You'll be smoking tina at gay clubs with HIV in no time

congrats, now you are in their systems and you will have to pay 3x insurance premiums for the rest of your life for a condition you dont really have ;^)

ADHD is bullshit. Just look at the symptoms:
webmd.com/add-adhd/guide/attention-deficit-hyperactivity-disorder-adhd#1

>Tends to daydream
>Often squirms, fidgets, or bounces when sitting
>Doesn't stay seated
>Has trouble playing quietly
>Is always moving, such as running or climbing on things (In teens and adults, this is more commonly described as restlessness.)
>Is always “on the go” as if “driven by a motor”

Oh look a child being a child! That must mean he must have a mental disease!!!! How you idiots seriously believe this escapes me. Doesn't this describe most children? And you wonder why there is so much mental illnesses in America when you people let your children take the medicinal jew even though there's nothing wrong with them.

>implying we are 6 year olds posting on a Sweco-Norwegian tabletop game forum

You know, not all of us are diagnosed as a child m8, i was diagnosed 4 months ago at 21

This. No one here gives a fuck about children symptoms. My ADD has nothing to do with hyperactivity, and I'd wager that's the case for most adults diagnosed with ADHD.

This is kinda of how I feel.

I was a NEET until 30 (got a degree but never got a real job). I finally decided to bite the bullet and get a script for adderall. Within 6 months I had a career, had a home of my own, and was on track to get married.

I know some many people that I think are dull that are able to focus much more easily than I can and thus are more successful. But I really don't want to live in a world where I have to take Meth just to be able to function like everyone else.

I'm . These are the stories that make me upset. I'd like to find a way to try medication to see if it would help.

psychologists are not doctors and do not prescribe
you should have went to a psychiatrist (doctor)

not a replacement or an actual treatment, but keto + caffeine feels similar to a low dose of adderall.

Thank you for the advice! I've actually tried keto, but the diet was too restrictive for me to be honest. I think it was not worth the effort to keep carbs that low. I also don't like the taste of coffee very much and energy drinks are kinda disgusting if you drink them a lot. But I'd like to try cocoa with caffeine powder. I recently drank something like this and it didn't taste too bad actually. Black tea is good too.

Adderall was enough for me to graduate college with good grades. After that you can just coast on reasonable workload job.

I've had ADHD since childhood, but because I'm smart I never really struggled with it until my Junior year of college. I could always just do homework in a half-assed way and ace the exams which worked up until junior year where I failed a couple courses.

ADHD limits your potential, but I'm sure plenty of people can coast below their true potential.

same

how do you guys go with driving with ADHD?

I liked to my doctor to get ADHD medicine for University so I didn't have to put in effort. cruised into the second top firm in country and never went back to the quack